In Luke’s vision on Hoth, have Obi-Wan refer to Yoda as “The Jedi Master who instructed the Jedi Master who instructed the Jedi Master who instructed me” to better match the prequels.
I believe the new planets that could be do-able, make sense in-universe and are significant enough are
- Naboo
- Corellia
- Kashyyyk
- Cantonica (Maybe that shot with the broom kid could be repurposed)
- Kijimi.
If I had to choose one planet from the expanded universe, I’d say Nevarro.
That way one has representation for all trilogies and the spin-offs, including planets that are significant to the heroes in some way (Corellia, Kashyyyk), or that were seen placed under a nasty First Order regime (Kijimi), making the montage have more of a catharsis feel rather than adding planets for the sake of it.
I’ve also been interested in repurposing the shot of the broom kid. I actually briefly tried to mask out clips from Rey’s visit to Tatooine to create a scene of her visiting the Broom kid (presumably buying his freedom) but there wasn’t enough footage and also I’m not that good at masking.
I’m not sure if it was on this thread, but I made a proof-of-concept for one of my previous suggestions, editing the Resistance meeting scene to allow Threepio to extend his line about Exegol for better context.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kr85u5aJhZd5JHNwsq4TRjB5Yis0YdgT/view?usp=sharing
As a bonus, it means removing the shot of Rey with the Lightsaber still on her belt.
I honestly feel like a lot more needs to be done with the first 20 minutes. It felt rushed in the theater and the cuts made make it feel even more rushed.
The main problem I have had with this film is how long it takes for me to get my footing when I watch it. What is there right now makes that feeling worse. It is just soooo quick, with no room to breathe.
I need to think more about how that can be improved, but rearranging the scenes breaks the logic of the film. Since there can’t be a spy in the FO to tell them anything until Kylo knows… trying to move the Rey training scene up works with logically, but thematically it is a weird scene to start on…
I guess I’m just in despair with the beginning…
I know it’s not much, but I used frame interpolation to slow down some shots:
Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
Lando blasts Don’t Stop Me Now while doing the Death Star run.
Honestly, if I knew how to extract and/or replace all the sound effects, I would probably have made an entire cut of the series with pop songs as the soundtrack by now, just to see if I could.
On that note, I’m actually thinking about making an edit that removes all references to the Phantom Menace, so that the trilogy will be Attack of the Clones, Tartakovsky Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith.
Anyone know where to find some good Sith whispers? Or maybe Palpatine can continually chant “find me.”
The Phantom Menace Soundtrack: Ultimate Edition has a lot of instances of voices subtly whispering the words to “Duel of the fates.”
Specifically, the track “Qui-Gon’s Death / Surrender of the Gungans” has a really cool moment where a lot of whispers overlap.
On the topic of connecting TPM to AOTC, maybe try replacing the name “Syfo Dias” with Qui-Gon, since they’re both friends of Dooku and both died around the same time.
Has anyone tried replacing the Luke & Leia theme at the end with Lando’s theme? It would make more sense and I don’t think it appears anywhere else in the movie.
Ed Slushie said:
It might be brief, but this would hopefully make it feel like Finn’s arc had real significance beyond reacting to Poe and Rey.…Doesn’t Finn’s recruitment of and connection to Company 77 straight up save the galaxy? Without them, they wouldn’t have been able to disable the Steadfast, and the fleet would have been able to make it clear of the planet’s atmosphere.
That’s a good point, and I certainly wouldn’t remove that part. But would you rather have a scene of Finn reacting to Rey’s death and resurrection, or a scene of him making a compassionate decision based on his past experiences?
axlanian said:
I like the idea about Dark Side noises you put together, though I don’t know if Qui-Gon saying “Anakin” specifically works. What else could go there?During the time when Ezra visits world between worlds you hear echoes of wisdom from the past and future, for Exegol the world of the Sith I think it could work really well if we heard echoes of pain and suffering. I agree calling out Anakin doesn’t fit, so I’ve removed that and just kept Qui-Gon’s scream, tried adding another.
I really like that idea, but I think It’d fit better over one of the quieter shots when Rey is first entering the temple.
I just had an idea for something we could do to make Finn’s arc more important:
- Cut out the interaction between Finn & Jannah from the beginning of the battle of Exegol (the one where she says “how do you know?” and he says “a feeling.”)
- At the end of the battle, cut out the footage of Finn sensing Rey’s death and later saying “red five is in the air, Rey’s alive”
- Use Battlefront 2’s Galactic Assault cinematics to show clips of First Order transports fleeing the battle.
- Create a shot of the Millennium Falcon’s targeting system locking onto one of the transports.
- Add the shot of Finn sensing Rey’s death here, interspersed with flashbacks of key moments from his escape from the FO.
- This is the tricky part: Over the clip of him saying “Red five is in the air,” have a soundalike say “Let them fly, they’re not a threat” followed by something along the lines of “they’re afraid” (in place of “Rey’s alive,” which gives us more freedom because that part is said when Finn isn’t on screen).
- In response to this, add Jannah’s line “How do you know” and Finn’s “a feeling.” Background might need to be changed because they were in a different cockpit when they said this, but I don’t think most people would notice.
- Add one more shot of the transports flying away.
It might be brief, but this would hopefully make it feel like Finn’s arc had real significance beyond reacting to Poe and Rey.
This sounds interesting actually, are there cinematically of FO transports leaving Exegol?
Unfortunately, Exegol isn’t a map in the game. However, there are shots from Jakku, Crait, and Ajan Kloss that could be color-corrected to look like Exegol.
I just had an idea for something we could do to make Finn’s arc more important:
It might be brief, but this would hopefully make it feel like Finn’s arc had real significance beyond reacting to Poe and Rey.
The directors and Disney in general don’t really care about the canon as much as the fandom does.
I think that was true even before Disney. Lucas was involved in TCW, sure, but before the prequels he told EU writers never to go into detail about the Clone Wars or the Mandalorians because he didn’t want to have to worry about interfering with canon when the time came for him to make more movies.
I know it’s been a while since this thread discussed the possibility of using BF2 cinematics, but I just found this one that includes some really good shots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3aibHJ5yQ
Added Across the Stars to the ending celebration scene in place of Yoda’s Theme. Hopefully this makes Poe and Finn’s embrace seem more romantic.
And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?
I like the idea, but I think Lando’s scene is actually the first time Ochi is mentioned by name, so you’d have to find a way to insert a mention of him into earlier in the movie. Also, Lando’s scene is the source of the film’s only “I have bad feeling about this” so you would have to add one of those somewhere else too.
I want to remind some neat idea of simple restructuring to make beggining of the film feel smoother and calmer. We can have Rey training scene following the Senate and Kylo conversation when they mention her, then after Falcon is mentioned we witnes this mission. This way, I think, movie flows more natural and has logical starting point, as in ANH where we follow droids to learn another pieces of a story.
It should also give more freedom to opening crawl cos both Rey and Falcon mission will be mentioned in the movie right before we see them. It should work regardless of shortening Falcon scene, restructuring Kylo vision, Palpatine lines or finding a wayfinder.
There are some rough concepts of tranzitions that I made some time ago testing some awsome ideas from this forum.
The Senate mentions Rey:
https://youtu.be/0gqUUohgF2MFalcon mission mentioned:
https://youtu.be/dQpEXlLk7VoFalcon is back:
https://youtu.be/AUxj56etsrQ
Cool! Didn’t someone make a version of the shot where the Tie Fighters don’t take off into lightspeed after the falcon, though?
Are there any AOTC edits that remove all references to Anakin and Padmé already knowing each other?
Replace General Pryde with a CGI clone of Tarkin.
Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.
Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.
the result is nice, but what’s the point here?
Hopefully, to improve breakneck pacing of some of the scenes. I doubt most of them will work in the context of the whole movie, but I thought it was worth making these available to other fan editors in case they do.
Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.
Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8
None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.
Getting back on track, I know Snooker’s computer loss kind of prevented the possibility of any Naboo “elder heads” being motion-tracked onto Ajan Kloss, but I was thinking: what if in that shot of Rey staring off into the forest (just before they leave for Pasaana) she was looking at an elder head? It’s a stationary shot so theoretically it would be easier to add. I know a lot of people have moved past the “Ajan Kloss = Naboo” idea, but since Snooker already gave us that cool shot of Theed in the distance I don’t want to abandon it completely.
Edit: Nevermind, I just re-watched the scene and it turns out I was remembering it incorrectly: the camera does move in that shot, too.
I wouldn’t replace the medal with it, but it could be added as an Easter egg someplace.
I’d imagine it would’ve either been buried with Padmé (canon), or blowed up along with Alderaan (Hal9000 heretical bastard canon).
Did you just call yourself a heretical bastard?
That might work. I recently watched an edit that moves Palpatine’s reveal to the end of act 1, and while the cutaway kind of helps the “Scavenger Hunt” plot feel less hectic, it makes seeing Palpatine less shocking because you’ve had more time to settle into the rest of the story.
I’ve experimented with putting Palpatine’s message into the Last Jedi while saving his visual reveal for tRoS, but the only spot I can find is after the credits. I would hate for tLJ to spend 80% of its runtime being so bleak, and just when you think it’s going to end on a positive note, it turns out the big bad has returned from the dead with a promise of revenge. That feels cruel.You have a point about ending on a hopeful note, and while that wouldn’t work with Palpatine’s message, it would absolutely work with Kylo’s trip to Exegol. It’s something the protagonists don’t know about, and it shows that the antagonist has been weakened to the point of seeking outside help.
It took almost a month for me to get around to it, but I actually made a proof-of-concept for that idea.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R_FiQmvIdG02_SK_02LJMkNWoktKJy_t/view?usp=sharing