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#1269516
Topic
1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
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KillThad said:

DrDre said:

poita said:

We still need another two 8TB Hard drives, the scan itself is finished, we just need hard drives to transfer the files onto so I can start work on the restoration.

I donated another 250 USD just now, so we should be nearly there… 😃

If we’re going off Amazon prices, we should only need another 250 and poita should be set. I could probably throw a couple bucks in if you guys want.

I added another 250 USD, so we should have the hard drives covered, such that poita can do his magic. 😉

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#1269076
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Star Wars 4K77 - Regraded - No DNR
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poppasketti said:

DrDre said:

This is some really nice work, and in record time! Congrats! I think your shot by shot can also be used as a great basis for further tuning to cater to each and everyone’s personal preferences. Here’s my little effort, starting from the last shot of the film. I personally feel the color grading could use a little warmth to bring it more in line with the technicolor references.

sanjuro_61:

DrDre:

Hey DrDre, I was just wondering, are the technicolor references really that warm? Just looking at the video scopes, the red is very pushed. Not saying that’s wrong, I defer to your knowledge, just curious! The sanjuro_61 frame is a bit cool according to the scopes, so just as a quick test, I balanced the highlights, and the result is somewhere in the middle.

Yes, the technicolor prints are very warmly graded, although there’s a little too much magenta/red in the highlights. I will provide an update later today, to correct this.

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#1268961
Topic
Star Wars 4K77 - Regraded - No DNR
Time

This is some really nice work, and in record time! Congrats! I think your shot by shot can also be used as a great basis for further tuning to cater to each and everyone’s personal preferences. Here’s my little effort, starting from the last shot of the film. I personally feel the color grading could use a little warmth to bring it more in line with the technicolor references.

sanjuro_61:

DrDre:

I applied this adjustment to the two sets of sample frames I found:

It might need a little tuning here and there, to get to a final version (I see a few frames with some excess magenta), if there’s an interest, but you get the general idea.

Here’s the LUT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hDo_XIiozzDanx5B1WAn-GuG31UwHlYW/view?usp=sharing

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#1267512
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

KranixZero said:

I was already excited for 4k77 but this looks amazing!! Will you be doing the same regrade for the DNR version when it comes out?

Thanks! I might, although it might actually be easier to apply DNR to the color graded version.

How will the cc be distributed as luts or as the video files

The plan is as video files.

How will these files be distributed and can I get an aprox date of completion

It will be done when it’s done. I’m pretty busy, so I can’t really give a reliable estimate.

Oh I’m sorry. I was just looking at all the progress shots and was so excited by the work you are doing. Everything looked exactly how I remember it back from 1977. I didn’t mean to offend you. Your doing so much fantastic work I wouldn’t want to give you the wrong impression. I just got ahead of myself. Sorry again but absolutely love your work!

No problem, I was a bit rude myself, so sorry about that. I hope to get it finished soon, but these things always take longer than you would like. Glad you enjoy the work! 😃

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#1267439
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

KranixZero said:

I was already excited for 4k77 but this looks amazing!! Will you be doing the same regrade for the DNR version when it comes out?

Thanks! I might, although it might actually be easier to apply DNR to the color graded version.

How will the cc be distributed as luts or as the video files

The plan is as video files.

How will these files be distributed and can I get an aprox date of completion

It will be done when it’s done. I’m pretty busy, so I can’t really give a reliable estimate.

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#1267398
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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Jedi Master Skywalker said:

The Post mentions

“Original Negative”

This could mean the OUT or it could be the SE’s…

Personally I believe it is the Theatrical Cut…

I want the hear your thoughts on this matter

I think it means both. This done to create a digital master from which future releases can be sourced. It makes sense to scan and restore every element used for the film.

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#1267382
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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Brodnation said:

DrDre said:

KranixZero said:

I was already excited for 4k77 but this looks amazing!! Will you be doing the same regrade for the DNR version when it comes out?

Thanks! I might, although it might actually be easier to apply DNR to the color graded version.

How will the cc be distributed as luts or as the video files

The plan is as video files.

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#1267233
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
Time

Not sure if this is old news, but I came across this thread on thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com, and stems from late last year and early this year:

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/star-wars-4k.54414/

Somebody involved with Reliance MediaWorks explains exactly what has happened to the 4K restoration of the OT. It was in fact finished for all three OT movies, and not rejected by LFM as has been suggested in the past. Additionally the colors on display in the reel we discussed in the past were only for internal purposes, and did not represent a final color grading. Here’s the jist of it:

"Reviving an old thread; I’m not 100% sure of George Lucas’ personal involvement with the actual reviewing of re-mastered content, but ILM worked closely with us to restore the original Star Wars Trilogy in 4K.

For those curious, there was a budget, but compared to the DVD remasters we did a decade ago, more money was pumped into creating pristine masters of the original film scans. The remastered footage was completed around 2012, but unfortunately nothing has come of that since.

I can most certainly guarantee you that nobody else is re-mastering the original SW films at this point. I say this with confidence because there is absolutely no one in the industry with technology as good as ours. Mind you that at this point, our software technology ceased development 6 years ago. If that tells you anything about the slow advancements in technology industry wide. This is the main reason Lucas came to us to begin with. We didn’t do the color correction, we only color grade for our own internal purposes. Our outfit is the only place James Cameron, David Fincher and George Lucas, to name a few – would send their films to. Unfortunately, a side effect of good work is price and the industry is flooded with cheap automated systems restoring films. The price the consumer pays is generic 4K upreses.

In my opinion I can only assume that they are waiting for advances in color technology to really make the remasters “pop”.

Any questions are welcome, I’ll try and answer what I can."

“All we provided was a mastered scan of the original with full image enhancement. No audio, no color correction, no VFX work, only a pristine restored digital version of the original. It is highly possible that someone is working on the digital delivery that we provided, I never denied that, but for me to believe that someone else out there has re-mastering capabilities beyond what we’ve delivered is not credible. If someone else is doing a remaster from scan, I can only say that it is being done through an automated system to save Disney money.”

“I can only say so much, but I was a lead image technician for several titles that were restored and have yet to see the light of day, such as True Lies 4K (4K transfer restored around 2013). Star Wars was a collaboration between several senior image technicians at the facility named above. I posted on this thread because I did a search on Star Wars 4K and came across this speculation thread. I thought it would be nice if someone with some insight could shed some light on the matter.”

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#1266753
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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Ronster said:

If you are about to attempt Binary Sunset shot… I will tip you off look at Puggo Grande 😉 That is for Luke Leaving the Hut.

For the Dual Sun shot well… I would trust the Gout over any other on that one but do what you like.

One more tip off… I’m being good to you 😃

This shot has a red sky for the technicolor prints (inconsistent with the surrounding shots), and has a more consistent blue sky for the 1997 SE prints.

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#1264831
Topic
4k77 - shot by shot color grading
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RogueLeader said:

That video sample looks simply amazing, Dre. Job well done.

Also, didn’t know you recently had a baby until I read through your thread just now! Seriously, congratulations to you and your family. I’m sure you’ll have many sleepless nights ahead of you, but they’ll just be the beginning of countless cherished memories. Really happy for you!

Thanks a lot!!! 😊