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4k77 - shot by shot color grading

deathstar1138 said:

Why are you double posting shots of Return of the Jedi here in the Star Wars thread.

And then people post a one word comment, and quote the entire image again, so we
see it 3 times.

It’s already in the Jedi thread. Am I missing something.

Because the audience for both threads is not necessarily the same. Some follow my own treads, while others might be interested specifically in 4k83 or news surrounding ROTJ. Since, this my own thread I think it is my prerogative to post, what I consider relevant to the thread or future projects, I might work on, while the post in the 4k83 thread is relevant specifically to those interested in developments surrounding 4k83.

4K83 Released

Williarob said:

You_Too said:

Williarob said:

Harmy’s Grindhouse was from a different print than our LPP.

I don’t know how much, if any, color correction was applied to our LPP: I received it as a Bluray ISO. I would imagine at least some basic color correction was done, but it would have been applied on a reel by reel (or even one setting for the whole film). I’m hoping to get access to a better version of the scan soon - not for the purpose of restoration, but for use as a color reference.

I see. Your version looks like a great color reference based on those shots at least. Would be interesting to see some other random shots from the entire movie. 😃

Oh and about the audio: What would be the best, technically speaking, the optical audio or that US LD 1983 mix? When comparing them, the optical sounds more “full”, more bass in it.

Here are some more frames:


I’m not an audio guy, so I’ll let Schorman and Hairy_hen address your sound questions…

It seems to me that as for many ROTJ prints, this LPP is suffering from a blue cast. Using Return of the Pug as a reference, I would put the colors about here:

Here are the individual frames:

your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Voss Caltrez said:

Luke using the dark side to choke out the guards at Jabba’s palace.

Actually, this is one of the tidbits of ROTJ I do still like. It’s morally gray stuff like that the film needed much more of.

But who is Darth Henrietta? The Emperor?

Yeah. With the makeup, cackling, and aerodynamics, ROTS Palpatine brings to mind Henrietta from Evil Dead II.

Supposedly, it was done to make audiences unsure of whether or not Luke would become like his father, or stay on the good side. If that’s the reason, that’s cool.
But still, I thought that once you start down the path of the dark side, forever it will consumes you.
If he’s using the dark side of the Force, he must have been practicing it to some degree. And it’s like, why would he do that? How can you pick and choose when you’re going to use the dark side, and still not become evil?
And I thought the Force was only for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

The Jedi interpretation of the Force is just that — an interpretation. Just because they view the Force through some quasi-Objectivist framework which recognizes no shades of gray doesn’t mean the Force is truly like that.

The greatest failure of the SW films — and the franchise as a whole, really — is this idea that the Jedi have the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on the Force and that any path differing from theirs is deficient.

I disagree. It is Lucas who invented this universe and its rules. He deliberately opted to introduce the concept of the Force and a dark side, a universe without many shades of grey. It is not a fault, it is part of its identity. I don’t see why the Star Wars universe should be made to conform to our own real world sense of morality. In my view this weakens the mythology.

Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )

screams in the void said:

I have to say, I’m not a fan of this type of research, where the person doing the research takes a less than impartial position. While the whole trolls and bots discussion is interesting and relevant to me, these articles tend to just want to use research results to smeer the opposite side. There’s no middle ground. It’s a vicious cycle of us versus them, which will end up doing a lot of damage to beloved properties, which have been hijacked by extremists from both sides, bent on pushing their agendas down people’s throats, whether they be called the alt-right, white supremacists, liberals, or sjw’s.