For those that prefer a less warm, contrasty, and saturated color grading than the technicolor inspired color grading, here’s an alternative that achieved with single LUT applied to the technicolor grading:
…and here’s how it translates to the opening shots of 4k77:
…and here’s the same color grading applied to the opening shots of 4k77:
Here’s an update of the color grading:
I expect to continue on this in a week or two, so no updates until then…
Here’s the full set of regraded shots:
Thanks everyone! Here are four more shots, after which I will be taking a short break to work on other projects related to TESB and ROTJ:
Here’s one of the more interesting shots, as on technicolor prints this location (and the Tarkin/Leia scene) was lit/graded quite differently than for later scenes, where blue tones dominate the scenes:
Here’s a set of 24 shots:
Here are two more shots:
I continue to love the work you are doing on these shots!
Would it be possible to pin all your most up to date shots to the beginning of this thread? It can be a little confusing going through the thread to find your most up to date as you often iterate on shots.
Not a criticism, just interested to track your progress.
I’ve added an album with all regraded shots in the first post.
Here’s a set of twenty frames with a few of the new shots included:
…and one from a different scene:
Here’s another shot from the same scene:
Here’s an update of the Death Star conference room shot:
Back from a little vacation, and I’ve updated the color grading for the latest shot:
I disagree. I think the PT greatly expanded the universe and the lore, and while there are obvious issues in the execution, conceptually the PT is pretty strong, and imaginative. Lucas’ concepts combined with better dialogue and a good director would have resulted in some very good films, I believe, whereas I believe the ST thusfar is much more flawed on a conceptual level, whilst being pretty unimaginative, driven largely by nostalgia, but is able to translate what little there is better to the screen.
Eh. It’s all pretty dumb to be honest, the way Yoda teaches in a tiny room of kids, the midichlorians, the rule of two, the idea one Sith can cloud the minds of an entire Jedi council. For all the problems in TLJ it at least roots the idea of the force in ESB territory. On topic I worry how EpIX will try and connect the to disparate eras. Probably in a way that’s embarrassing.
To each his own, I suppose. I personally am not a fan of a corporation taking someone else’s creation, and rooting it somewhere the creator didn’t intend, or no longer intends. It’s Lucas’ saga in my mind, and I’m happy to accept both his original vision, the OOT, and his revised vision, the PT and the SE wrats and all. I would like the current owners to honour that legacy, and Lucas’ vision for the universe and characters he created, and then forge a new future with new material taking it wherever they want, whether it be in TESB territory or otherwise. In any case I don’t see how TLJ with its instant Force powers recieved from on high, light side and dark side balancing each other in quite a literal sense, and critical perspective on the Jedi is any closer to TESB territory than the PT. In TESB becoming a Jedi and mastering the powers that come with it, still took a lot of effort, and the Jedi were still the mythical guardians of peace and justice, an ideal that was still beyond reproach, left mostly to the imagination. We all take something different from these films, and to some what is displayed in the new films may be consistent with what they took from the OT, whereas for others it isn’t. For me certain aspects of the Force in the ST are closer to the OT than the PT, going back to a more mysterious energy field, but in other ways they are worlds apart, ditching the studying required to master Force powers, and the theme of temptation by the dark side that used to be intimately connected to this process, a theme largely developed in TESB, that then became integral to the entire saga up till the ST.
Which begs the question of how a Jedi master teaches a Padawan to do it. Just send them into a sleazy bar and make a drug dealer rethink their life?
As with all Force powers it is about being in tune with yourself, and with the Force, reaching a level of enlightenment, that takes time and effort.
Also, it’s weird it’s actually called a mind trick, given that cynics like Han dismissed the Force as simple tricks and nonsense.
I don’t believe the Jedi call it a Jedi mind trick. If I remember it correctly, the term was only used in a derogatory manner by others in the OT and PT.
Legit question, what do you need to know to be able to do a mindtrick?
Since it was never taught to anyone, nothing. Beyond the knowledge that such a trick exists.
Which is fine, I do to at a surface level of popcorn entertainment, but when I dig a little deeper, I get more out of the PT.
Really? I’d say they’re equally hollow except without being entertaining.
I disagree. I think the PT greatly expanded the universe and the lore, and while there are obvious issues in the execution, conceptually the PT is pretty strong, and imaginative. Lucas’ concepts combined with better dialogue and a good director would have resulted in some very good films, I believe, whereas I believe the ST thusfar is much more flawed on a conceptual level, whilst being pretty unimaginative, driven largely by nostalgia, but is able to translate what little there is better to the screen.
Legit question, what do you need to know to be able to do a mindtrick?
Who knows, all we have is the previous films, which consistently show these skills are hard to master. As I stated above Luke who is part of an extremely powerful lineage only manages to perform one by the start of ROTJ after years of training, and practise.
Everyone has their own opinions, but I’m honestly starting to wonder if the effect and quality of the prequels put a bad taste in fans’ mouths for any future/modern Star Wars content.
Nah, it’s not the prequels fault, I believe. Those films have flaws in different departments. In a lot of ways the PT and ST are two sides of the same coin, where that coin is the OT. Both trilogies capture some of the good parts of the OT, but also miss essential elements in my view. While I think the PT has deeper valleys than the ST, I also feel the PT brought more new elements to the table, and greatly expanded the universe and its lore, while the ST thusfar seems stuck in the past, recycling too much of the OT to really be considered a new story. Additionally, the PT is part of one bigger story, whereas the ST in my view has struggled to supply reasons for its own existence in terms of the larger narrative beyond some entertainment values, and franchise extension. This will be TROS biggest challenge imo, supplying those connections, and bringing the nine part story full circle, such that the ST will not end up being merely an appendix to Lucas’ six film saga.
I still think the sequel trilogy is far superior than the prequels.
Which is fine, I do to at a surface level of popcorn entertainment, but when I dig a little deeper, I get more out of the PT.
The only part of the ST so far where Rey was a very enjoyable character to me was definitely the first half hour or so of TFA. Then she was OK until the mind trick, and after that it all went downhill…
Bro even Watto knows what a mindtrick is. It’s not a big deal when you look at it objectively.
I know what an airplane is. That doesn’t mean I can fly one. The fact that Watto’s species aren’t susceptible to a Jedi mind trick, doesn’t imply he knows how to perform one. Since his insensitivity is related to his species, it’s very likely a biological effect, and thus one he has no control over. The previous six movies make it pretty clear the Jedi mind trick is not easy to learn, and Luke only performs it by the start of ROTJ, when he’s had a few years of training and practise. Either way since TLJ makes it clear her powers grow stronger with Kylo Ren’s, it makes no difference how difficult it is to master, since those rules don’t apply to her.
Everyone has their own opinions, but I’m honestly starting to wonder if the effect and quality of the prequels put a bad taste in fans’ mouths for any future/modern Star Wars content.
Nah, it’s not the prequels fault, I believe. Those films have flaws in different departments. In a lot of ways the PT and ST are two sides of the same coin, where that coin is the OT. Both trilogies capture some of the good parts of the OT, but also miss essential elements in my view. While I think the PT has deeper valleys than the ST, I also feel the PT brought more new elements to the table, and greatly expanded the universe and its lore, while the ST thusfar seems stuck in the past, recycling too much of the OT to really be considered a new story. Additionally, the PT is part of one bigger story, whereas the ST in my view has struggled to supply reasons for its own existence in terms of the larger narrative beyond some entertainment values, and franchise extension. This will be TROS biggest challenge imo, supplying those connections, and bringing the nine part story full circle, such that the ST will not end up being merely an appendix to Lucas’ six film saga.
The only part of the ST so far where Rey was a very enjoyable character to me was definitely the first half hour or so of TFA. Then she was OK until the mind trick, and after that it all went downhill…
I agree. I think her introduction is one of the better examples of visual story telling, and her portrayal made her instantly likable. I think the introduction of all the new characters was handled quite well. It’s a shame, that TLJ decided to go for subversion, rather than to further develop the relationships between these lead characters, who obviously have a lot of chemistry together. I’m happy they will be going on an adventure together in TROS.
Where exactly was she going to look? She has nothing to go on except an early memory of being left behind. Even the Sith cave couldn’t show her an image of her parents, which would have been as easy way to seduce her.
If you cling to the belief your parents are coming back to the place they left you, there’s a big psychological hangup about leaving that place, even for a day. It’s not rational or realistic to anyone else but her, as most forlorn hopes tend to be.It’s actually a very compelling dramatic element to her story, however where I think Dre has a problem is that it needs to be more essential to her personality/decisions. Definitly don’t think the “she should act her age” argument holds any water though.
I say act her age, because the character is kept passive and uninformed seemingly never exploring any other possibilities or solutions for her situation, because it’s convenient to the writers, not because it seems the logical choice for a person of her age, skill set, and intelligence to not ever explore any other options. The only reason given for her staying so passive and inactive is a fool’s hope, and the films make a compelling case, that she is no fool, and really rather impulsive and pro-active in her actions, once she meets BB-8 and Finn.
Where exactly was she going to look? She has nothing to go on except an early memory of being left behind. Even the Sith cave couldn’t show her an image of her parents, which would have been as easy way to seduce her.
If you cling to the belief your parents are coming back to the place they left you, there’s a big psychological hangup about leaving that place, even for a day. It’s not rational or realistic to anyone else but her, as most forlorn hopes tend to be.
Perhaps, but this to me is a major issue in the ST thusfar in my view, where motivations are too thinly drawn. She’s staying there on a fool’s hope, end of story. Luke blames himself for what happened with Ben Solo, and now believes ending the Jedi is somehow the best solution, end of story. Han Solo lost his son to Snoke somehow, and then left his wife, and gave up for some reason, and went back to a life of smuggling, end of story. All of these characters have in common, that their lifes were put on hold for a decade or more mostly for unexplored reasons, conveniently waiting for the events of the ST to unfold.