DominicCobb

nl0428 said:

DominicCobb said:

nl0428 said:

pleasehello said:

Anchorhead said:

Digging this shot of Ms Tran. I’m really hoping she has a more substantial, adult roll in this. She looks great here and appears to have a more important roll in-universe.

Glad they did something different with her hair, she looks like a different person in this photo. And it’s fitting that you should use the term “adult”, as I thought her character in TLJ did come off as somewhat puerile.

I was fine with Rose in The Last Jedi. I think making her character act more mature is good, as it shows character growth and maturity.

She was already pretty mature in her own way in TLJ, but there was certainly a level of innocence and inexperience to her character. She went through a lot in TLJ and it’ll be interesting to see what her place in the Resistance is now (considering she started out as just an engineer).

You are right about that.

Honestly what I’m really excited for from Rose is what she’ll be like under JJ’s direction. I like Rose a lot, but she doesn’t pop off the screen the same way the new characters in TFA did. In general I think Rian’s the better filmmaker, but I think JJ has the edge when it comes to establishing character and character chemistry.

Zachary VIII said:

nl0428 said:

I do hope that Palpatine’s return is written really well for people to accept his return and role in The Rise of Skywalker. As someone who generally does not like fan service, I do trust Lucasfilm with what they’ve been doing with the sequel trilogy.

I think the significance of Palpatine is greatly overstated. It’s possible that he’s just be part of a Sith artifact macguffin that’s in the Death Star wreckage.

I have to say if they’re legit bring Palpatine back to life, on the face of it that’s a pretty lame idea. I mean maybe there’s a way to execute it that works, I don’t know.

But I do like the idea of bringing back Palpatine in a non-literal/physical sense - dealing with something he left behind or something more ethereal or whatever. We’ll see I guess.

nl0428 said:

pleasehello said:

Anchorhead said:

Digging this shot of Ms Tran. I’m really hoping she has a more substantial, adult roll in this. She looks great here and appears to have a more important roll in-universe.

Glad they did something different with her hair, she looks like a different person in this photo. And it’s fitting that you should use the term “adult”, as I thought her character in TLJ did come off as somewhat puerile.

I was fine with Rose in The Last Jedi. I think making her character act more mature is good, as it shows character growth and maturity.

She was already pretty mature in her own way in TLJ, but there was certainly a level of innocence and inexperience to her character. She went through a lot in TLJ and it’ll be interesting to see what her place in the Resistance is now (considering she started out as just an engineer).

My initial reaction to the title was “oof that’s weird… but it’ll probably grow on me.” Which is usually how it works. I certainly had initially negative reactions when I first learned of the ANH, TPM, and AOTC titles. In fact, ROTS is probably the only one that made me excited (the rest neutral). All have grown on me over time and I really kinda like them all now in their own way (well, maybe not AOTC).

Even now with TROS after a few hours I don’t feel so bad about it. The weirdest aspect is the grammar of it I think, it’s weird having “Skywalker” singular like that, but the idea of what that choice means really intruigues me. Ultimately too I like that they worked that name in (with this supposedly being the “end of the saga” and all).

Didn’t we just talk about how this is a non spoiler thread?

Anchorhead said:

I suppose it remains to be seen if it’s the rise of Luke as a power or if Rey Random isn’t random after all.

For me, I’m she stays random and it refers to Luke. Either way, fingers crossed that JJ can right the ship.

Doesn’t have to be about Luke. I think it’s Skywalker as an ideal and a legacy (and possibly a title).

DominicCobb said:

I don’t think TFA was ever on there.

Anyway, I don’t know how these deals work. But I’d trust reporting over speculation.

Well I still don’t know the specifics of the situation, but if this tweet from someone called Robert Iger is true, ANH will be on Disney+ (and one would think the others too):

https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertIger

JEDIT: According to Disney, all the films will be on there.
https://twitter.com/Disney/status/1116478432001441792?s=20

Anakin Starkiller said:

Like what? I thought that scene was just disliked for its bad CGI and ruining the reveal of Jabba.

“Just”? You missed the worst parts - it’s redundant and slows down the film.

I don’t think TFA was ever on there.

Anyway, I don’t know how these deals work. But I’d trust reporting over speculation.

Fang Zei said:

The TBS/TNT deal might just be for broadcast rights, though.

IX will definitely show up on Disney+ first, probably by the middle of next year after the blu-ray’s been out a couple months, but won’t show up on tbs/tnt until the end of 2021 at the earliest. Yeah, you can also watch them online, but that’s technically going through your cable provider first since I don’t think you can get those channels without a cable subscription of some sort.

For purposes of legality, “streaming” is considered something entirely different from the tnt/tbs deal.

Source? From what’s been reported it seems like “streaming” falls under “TV”: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-02/disney-is-said-to-seek-star-wars-rights-back-from-tbs-tnt

Has RO played on TNT/TBS?

SilverWook said:

DominicCobb said:

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

Ironically, the rights are still tied up - Disney did a TV deal with TNT/TBS that is supposed to last through 2024 I think.

Seems about the same as the length of the old SpikeTv deal. Of course there were only six movies then. Were TLJ and IX part of the current deal?

Unclear I think. I’d guess no for IX at least.

Fang Zei said:

Since Disney+ will likely launch by the end of the year, how long do you think they’ll wait to just add all the movies now that they own the rights completely?

Ironically, the rights are still tied up - Disney did a TV deal with TNT/TBS that is supposed to last through 2024 I think.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Lucas announced the Blu-Ray Saga at Celebration. The OT in 4K would be a big deal for a lot of folks, regardless of whether the OUT is included.

There was a hell of a lot less Star Wars news to go around at that time. And SW on blu-Ray then was a much bigger deal than SW on 4K would be now.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Should be a big week even for non-convention people. IX title and trailer for sure, probably a home video announcement for TFA and RO at least if not the original trilogy as well. Excited for IX news and nervous to see what the future holds for Star Wars on home video.

Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t see home video as the sort of thing they would announce at a celebration.

Should expect to hear more about future films/tv shows/books/etc. though.

Maybe this isn’t the best place for random personal complaints?

Flippant “suggestions” aside, ady did alter the Falcon in ESB to match TFA. Besides small visual things like that, I’m not sure the PT or ST are relevant to his changes one way or another.

ChainsawAsh said:

I mean, that’s literally the only example of censorship in the SE’s. Nothing else in ANH or anything in ESB or ROTJ were censored when it was resubmitted to the MPAA in 1997, and again, both TPM and AOTC were given PG ratings in 1999 and 2002.

A lot has changed since then. Hard to think of many movies in recent years with similar content to the first 5 Star Warses that haven’t been rated PG-13. I’d bet if the films were made today they all would get PG-13, save maybe TPM.

Zachary VIII said:

DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

Valheru_84 said:

^ I actually thought “fair enough” in the ranking and comments on the prequels, thinking you’d grown up with them and are one of the few prequel lovers on here brave enough to tell it from their perspective. But as soon as I saw the ANH ranking and first sentence I knew it was an AF joke 😉

This has spawned some non-joking discussion
I did grow up with the Prequels, with ROTS having a significant influence on me. I do enjoy the overall story of these films, but the acting, set design, and pacing kills it for me. As an adult, I can barely take some of the choices (I don’t like sand) as serious. Yet I enjoy the era. The PT books / shows / games have always been my favorite. Not that I’ve ever disliked the OT era- I’ve just always viewed the characters, planets, and conflicts of the prequels more interested.

So much era ranking would be:

1. PT
2. OT
3. ST

While my actual film ranking is the April Fools one in reverse.

If there are any interesting stories that take place in that era before the battle of Geonosis, I’m not aware of them.

Quite a few of the Age of the Republic one-shot comics take place either before TPM, or between TPM and AotC. There’s also the Anakin and Obi-Wan comic series, which I would consider one of the better canon comics, though the aesthetics are very non Star Wars (which can be a plus or minus) and the ending’s fairly rushed. As for novels, a new book about Count Dooku that’s set before AotC is coming out pretty soon.

I’m definitely curious the quality of the “Age of” stuff. They’re basically a collection of one shots, yes? Could be good but I don’t know.

I’ve been wondering if Anakin & Obi-wan is any good. That section of the canon is really ripe for stories about Anakin specifically. He’s so different in AOTC vs. TPM and I never really found anything that bridged that gap in the old EU. Rogue Planet was okay, I started Jedi Trial but wasn’t into it. Honestly one of the better things I read in that regard was back in the day I had a middle grade book called Jedi Quest that actually did try to find Anakin right in between the two films to decent success.

On the whole it’s sort of an uneventful time period. It’s cool that they’re finally doing something with Dooku because that’s another massive gap in the canon. From the old EU the Darth Plageius touched on Dooku a bit, and was also set entirely pre-AOTC (and is actually a pretty good book in general, though definitely very un-Star Warsy in many respects).

In general it seems like they’re starting to do more in the new canon with PT stuff (including and perhaps especially pre-AOTC - there’s Queen’s Shadow and Master and Apprentice as well), and it’s also fair to assume we’ll see more and more from the ST and also the post-OT, pre-ST time period which is a fascinating era itself.

OutboundFlight said:

DominicCobb said:

OutboundFlight said:

Valheru_84 said:

^ I actually thought “fair enough” in the ranking and comments on the prequels, thinking you’d grown up with them and are one of the few prequel lovers on here brave enough to tell it from their perspective. But as soon as I saw the ANH ranking and first sentence I knew it was an AF joke 😉

This has spawned some non-joking discussion
I did grow up with the Prequels, with ROTS having a significant influence on me. I do enjoy the overall story of these films, but the acting, set design, and pacing kills it for me. As an adult, I can barely take some of the choices (I don’t like sand) as serious. Yet I enjoy the era. The PT books / shows / games have always been my favorite. Not that I’ve ever disliked the OT era- I’ve just always viewed the characters, planets, and conflicts of the prequels more interested.

So much era ranking would be:

1. PT
2. OT
3. ST

While my actual film ranking is the April Fools one in reverse.

The other big issue (and now I’ll sound like a broken record as this has been discussed to death recently) for me is that that era feels so aesthetically different from the rest of the saga. Some of the non-film stuff tries to bridge the gap more but it still feels to me a bit like a separate franchise in some respects.

From a saga perspective it is funky, but it also clearly gives the PT something different to stand on.

I play Battlefront 17, and there are three eras: the PT, OT, and ST. When you play in a PT or OT map you clearly feel the difference. But the ST is just a glorified OT. There is nothing unique going on.

I play that game too, and at this point the content is definitely lopsided in favor of the PT era (I guess because of fan backlash). Really the most unique aspect of that era is the droids, and they do look cool, but when you move outside of a game like that and into things where they’re actually telling stories, the Separatists are easily the least interesting faction of the bunch (though not for lack of potential).

You can always chalk it up to technological advancements. As a planet we are advancing rapidly in 19 years- a galaxy would be doing some crazy stuff in that time. Enough to make it seem like a different place. Add in a new government and POV and it makes sense.

You can rationalize it that way, but the galaxy has always just been a stand in for our world.

With the ST, it is a shame nothing new is ever developed. Even the First Order, the supposed powerhouse, is still using TIE Fighters. After 30 years?

Look how much fighter jets have changed in 30 years (not much). To me what feels more false is that basically none of the PT ships show up 19 years later (save the blockade runner and star destroyer I guess). At least TCW added the Y-wing.

It’s kinda apples and oranges comparing the PT to the ST right now. Think about how many prominent elements of that era didn’t exist until ROTS or much later - phase 2 clones, the ARC-170 starfighter, the V-wing, the tri-fighter, the CIS cruisers (and their navy in general)… all from ROTS, plus from TCW you get a lot of the clone squadrons, the droid bomber, the Y-wing as I said, the droid commando, clones with personalities, etc. Point being, there’s more to come from the ST era.

OutboundFlight said:

Valheru_84 said:

^ I actually thought “fair enough” in the ranking and comments on the prequels, thinking you’d grown up with them and are one of the few prequel lovers on here brave enough to tell it from their perspective. But as soon as I saw the ANH ranking and first sentence I knew it was an AF joke 😉

This has spawned some non-joking discussion
I did grow up with the Prequels, with ROTS having a significant influence on me. I do enjoy the overall story of these films, but the acting, set design, and pacing kills it for me. As an adult, I can barely take some of the choices (I don’t like sand) as serious. Yet I enjoy the era. The PT books / shows / games have always been my favorite. Not that I’ve ever disliked the OT era- I’ve just always viewed the characters, planets, and conflicts of the prequels more interested.

So much era ranking would be:

1. PT
2. OT
3. ST

While my actual film ranking is the April Fools one in reverse.

I’ve thinking about why this rang false for me, and I think ultimately the issue I run into with the “PT era” is that, when people refer to that, they mostly just mean between episodes II and III. If there are any interesting stories that take place in that era before the battle of Geonosis, I’m not aware of them.

The other big issue (and now I’ll sound like a broken record as this has been discussed to death recently) for me is that that era feels so aesthetically different from the rest of the saga. Some of the non-film stuff tries to bridge the gap more but it still feels to me a bit like a separate franchise in some respects.

MalàStrana said:

Yep but only after he “mind probed” Rey to know Luke’s wherabouts.

Yeah. Thing is if one considers what Snoke says in that scene, finding Luke is no longer the priority. His plan is to test Kylo’s faith by bringing Rey to him and having him kill her (getting rid of Luke is just the secondary tying up of loose ends). As usual with dark siders, his overconfidence ends up being his weakness.

MalàStrana said:

Indeed but Rey couldn’t see his surroundings as well, and their last meeting was fully on Rey’s side. Besides, if Snoke created the link, how come he doesn’t know Rey’s location either ?

The force has always allowed connections of sorts between people, even if they don’t necessarily know where from. It’s a mystical energy.

MalàStrana said:

tfshirty said:

DominicCobb said:

tfshirty said:

pleasehello said:

Shopping Maul said:

Does anyone know how Rey/Chewie knew the circumstances of the ‘slow chase’ and how/where to come out of hyperspace in order to send Rey to Snoke’s ship?

Maybe they read the script 😉

The beacon. Finn gave it to Poe before he went gambling.

I think the question is how did Rey know that the First Order was there (as it’s a beacon to the Resistance). The simple explanation is that she saw their location as part of her vision when she touched hands with Ben.

Ah, I see that now. Thanks! And I agree with your explanation.

And Ben wouldn’t know her (and Luke’s) location as well ?

What I’m suggesting is that Rey could see he was on the supremacy chasing the Resistance, not that she saw their exact coordinates (she was given a vision of future events - her “turning him”). She figured out where to find them with the tracker.

ZkinandBonez said:

DominicCobb said:

eBay has been kind to me. Recently purchased issues 3, 5, 6, 9, 18, and 49 all for a decent price (my collection beforehand was just 8, 12, 15, and 24).

Oh and also I got an original number 1.

Neat. I’ve been trying to get some of the movie adaptation issues myself, but they’re always a bit out of my price range (at least as far as what I’m willing to spend on single issues).

Yeah there’s a threshold for me for issues where I won’t pay past a certain price (I try not to spend more than $10 on an individual issue if I can help it) and usually when I see them they’re beyond that threshold. It’s nice when you get them in lots on eBay because they’re ultimately cheaper than when sold individually. I was really lucky with a bid on number 1 and got it for $25.

I’ve occasionally used eBay to find some of the more obscure comics I’m after (and gotten lucky a few times), but I try avoid it as I enjoy visiting comic shops whenever I’m abroad.

I love visiting comic shops, but I tend to find you can get better deals on eBay if you’re patient and vigilant. At the very least eBay is helpful to get a sense of whether a comic I’ve found at a shop or a convention (where I got a couple) is more or less expensive than usual.

Are you collecting any specific issues, story-arcs, etc. or just grabbing any orig. Marvel SW you can get your hands on?

At first many years ago I was gifted 12, and found a 15 at an antique shop and thought it looked cool (hadn’t read any at that point). By now I’ve read most of the series through collected paperbacks. I’m not really sure what I want to collect but I really love the series so I’ve been thinking recently it’d be fun to collect select favorite issues. I’d love to complete that first 1-6 set and then I’ll probably get 7 too since I have 8 and 9. From there I’m not sure, there are a handful of others I’d like to have but I am worried that it’s a slippery slope into eventually collecting more than my wallet can handle.

eBay has been kind to me. Recently purchased issues 3, 5, 6, 9, 18, and 49 all for a decent price (my collection beforehand was just 8, 12, 15, and 24).

Oh and also I got an original number 1.

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

So many of these types of arguments are made in bad faith though, and many misrepresenting the events of the film. It’s not always the case, but many people taking issue with the execution of this perceived agenda are actually taking issue with the agenda itself, whether consciously or not.

It is an assumption, that these arguments are made in bad faith, and whether critics subconsciously take issue with the agenda. It is also a manner to invalidate an opposing opinion, which makes such conclusions suspect.

It is not an assumption. It’s a fact many do it. You’ve argued with me enough to know I don’t need to invalidate an opinion to oppose it.