DominicCobb

The DVD5 seems to be offline.

EDIT: Is there something wrong with MU? I've checked numerous files and they all seem to be offline or temporarily unavailable. I checked the clip the adywan posted last night on MU and it says that that's unavailable too. ???

EDIT PART 2: So... seems like MU is working again, and I realized that the DVD5 download isn't even MU, but I've figured out how to download it so... never mind!

...that was awesome.

ben_danger said:

Could some of these more savage ideas be sneaked in when, han, luke and chewie are captured by the ewoks earlier on? enstead of being cooked alive on a pole (ie the cartoon cannibal thing - enstead of skinned and gutted like a regular animal would) for a banquet. 3P0 translates that they are to be "executed like the other invaders" to which han could glance around to see the corpses of various imperials?

Sounds good to me.

Has Vimeo been tried?

CatBus said:

I dunno, I think that genre classification seems pretty apt to me... and frankly, if I were a "vile gangster" with absolute power over a sizeable criminal network, and had my own palace and flying sail barge which appeared to have permanent free bar parties going on and a perpetual cadre of the most violent and nasty couch surfing villains/guests in the quadrant... I can't honestly think of a more appropriate genre.

EDIT: I mean, seriously.  If one of your freeloading groupies is Boba Fett fer crying out loud, you are officially and unequivocally The Man.  You can play whatever music you want.  Nobody will question your taste.

Unless the song you are playing is Jedi Rocks...

aalenfae said:

Just gonna leave this here...

Damn...

Good song right? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOSuY12Rrs

If anyone ever wanted to know more about it:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lapti_Nek

What do you like most about the tune?

nightstalkerpoet said:

Going with that concept, I can see how you could probably get the audience to emotionally connect with Anakin. Though does it leave room for an emotional connection with Padme? It seems like using that as a starting point would leave her as a very one dimensional character, rather than someone we care about at all and a driving point of Anakin's fall.

Yeah, it seems many of the characters have become less dimensional so to speak. I think of this as unfortunate, yet a necessary evil and not altogether outrageous. Many epic films are somewhat lacking in the dimensionality of their secondary characters.  

nightstalkerpoet said:

I'd be happy to work with you on this edit from a narrative perspective if you'd like :)

The video you posted struggles for one main reason that I can see: including shots of Anakin and Obi-Wan saving the Chancellor during your montage defeats its purpose in showing the passage of time.

Complete the montage with footage from the Order 66 piece, then jump into the beginning sequence of Revenge of the Sith, and allow the story to flow with the death of Count Dooku and the battle with Grievous.

Obi Wan and Yoda's portions should be saved to show Order 66 in action, though the Battle on Kashyyyk works still in the montage.

I would leave more of Episode 2 than you intend to

-Start with a new opening crawl explaining politics and relationships,

-a shot of Padme's ship arriving on Coruscant (no explosion)

-then the elevator scene.

-The security talk takes place,

-the assassination attempt.

-a very shortened chase

-Split up Anakin and Obi Wan (seperate missions).

-Anakin and Padme on the Transport.

-Obi Wan leaves, arrives at Kamino and walks inside.

-Anakin and Padme arrive at Island on Naboo and Kiss

-Obi Wan walks out of building on Kamino, contacts council and explains about clones (he explains everything the Prime Minister just told him)

-Padme finds Anakin awake after nightmare. They leave for Tatooine.

-Obi Wan and Jango fight - Asteroid Chase

-Anakin talks to the Lars family, leaves to find his mom.

-Obi Wan spies, reports to council

-Anakin finds his mother, slaughters sandpeople. Cut Yoda sensing it.

-Obi-Wan/Dooku talk

-Anakins talk with Padme cut to be less creepy

... gotta go, but theres a starter.

Yeah, I see what you're getting at with the montage. I think I'll change it up a bit. As for where I start Episode II, I like where I have it. You want for there to be an explanation of the politics and the romance. I feel where I've started it (Tatooine) works for two reasons:

1. It simplifies the story of the Clone Wars. Politics is not the focus here. The way I have it, there's a war, and that's all that needs to be known.

2. Creepy romance = fixed. The way I have it, at the start of the movie Anakin and Padme are already in love with each other. No need to (painfully) go over why.

Also, because I start the film on Tatooine, the first line is Anakin saying "Stay right here," and the final line is Luke saying "I won't leave you." I think that's pretty awesome.

Okay, so right now I got Episode II at 35 min., Episode III at 57 min., and Episode IV at 29 min. I still have some more editing to do throughout the three, the goal is to get them down to at most 110 min. (which would mean cutting another 10 min.) I don't think that should be too hard to do.

One interesting thing I'm going to do is completely remove the force ghosts. This goes as far as making Obi's death NOT on purpose. To clarify, that means making Kenobi's sacrifice NOT a sacrifice. I've actually already done this and I think it works well.

The context is right after Episode II. I'm a little on the fence about the idea myself so I would honestly like to know if, after watching Episode II, would you understand what the montage represents?

I made sure to put in the scene where Yoda says that the clone wars have begun right before the scene that starts the video (I just wanted the upload to be short). I hope that it helps explain what's happening a bit more. Actually, I might make Yoda's spiel a voice over the shots of the clone army preparing. I don't know yet.

As for the use of Order 66 stuff, that montage will not be in this edit. It will be implied that the genocide of the Jedi took a few years, not a few hours.

A video! Okay, before you watch keep in mind that when I say this is rough I mean it is really rough. In fact, since I uploaded it I've already fixed the first cut to be less jarring. I basically just want to see what people think of this segway from EpII to EpIII. 

http://vimeo.com/32883370

Keep in mind this basically just a rough idea.

So... if I wanted to download the Purist edition would someone need to PM me the links?

asterisk8 said:

DominicCobb said:

Days of Heaven 9/10

A great, beautiful film. Though, whenever I watch a Terrence Malick film, I find myself wondering "What was the point of that?"

I'm not sure what you mean. What's the point of most films? To witness some moments in the lives of interesting characters. To feel transported to another time or place.

At the risk of sounding overly poetic, the point is to see a romance blossom and come to ruin, and to follow a young girl as she experiences and comments on what it is to be an itinerant laborer during the Great Depression. What more of a point should there be than that?

Yes, I know that. I didn't really put it the right way. I'm just saying that whenever I finish one of his films I find myself asking that question. Usually when I watch the movie I find myself asking that question during the film, but with Malick, its after. It might be a compliment actually. Anyways, I gave it a 9 didn't I? For me that means it was pretty damn good.

darth_ender said:

Wow, this sounds really cool.  I'm looking forward to it.  I hpe you continue to make swift progress. :)

Thanks for the kind words!

darth_ender said:

Care to expound on how you will achieved this edit?  I'm interested in particular with the OT segments which will obviously fewer opportunities to focus on him in particular.  For instance, how do you plan to maintain the narrative in ANH for the first bit without focusing on R2/3PO?  It sounds very interesting and I hopefully can at least provide a little input on the way.  Good luck, and I look forward to seeing your progress.

I've actually watched ANH recently and I've found that all of the R2/3PO bits can be taken out without confusion. The way I'll have it, it'll be just Vader in ANH until the Falcon arrives in the Death Star. Then I'll have some of their perspective. It will seem at first as if they're just some rebels that have come to save the princess. I don't really know how I can explain this, you'll just have to trust me.

One interesting aspect of this edit will be that there will be no "I am your father twist." The real twist will come when the Emperor tells Vader that Luke is actually Vader's son. By focusing on Vader alone, the audience assumes that Padme dies before she gives birth. 

Call me crazy, but I just started working on this. I don't know, it must have been starting this thread to get me to want to do something. Now, I was hoping to do a proper HD edit, but for now, it's just going to be a less than impressive SD rough cut. I'm really excited though. I've almost finished the Episode II segment.

Days of Heaven 9/10

A great, beautiful film. Though, whenever I watch a Terrence Malick film, I find myself wondering "What was the point of that?"

MrInsaneA said:

DominicCobb said:

MrInsaneA said:

DominicCobb said:

I auctually think that the main reason AOTC sucks is because it has the worst pacing of all of them.

AOTC sucks because it has a terrible mystery plot, and a terrible romantic plot. The pacing itself however, is easily worked around (Taking out the Yoda/Younglings scene, and the Dex's Diner scene is a good example as to how) TPM however, always seems to have terrible pacing no matter how it's edited. 

Ah, I see what you mean. I thought we were just talking about the original films. In terms of edits, yes, I have noticed that TPM's pacing is unfixable while AOTC's isn't.

L8Wrtr's edit is basically a blueprint for perfect pacing as far as AOTC goes.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

So this is my first fan edit. Actually, I should say it will be my first fan edit. It’s a saga edit from Anakin Skywalker’s point of view. That means the only scenes that will be used is ones that include Anakin/Vader (well, there will need to be a few additional expository scenes without him). This will help to not only reduce the runtime, but to also accomplish the main goal of the edit: to have a film that focuses solely on the tragedy of Anakin. It will start on Tatooine in Episode II, and follow chronologically through Episode VI. There will be no flashbacks.

The problem is, I won’t be working on this for awhile. If I had the time and equipment, I could start at anytime, for I know exactly what I’m going to do. As is, the start date is estimated at maybe a year from now. So, the question is, why did I make this thread? Well there are two reasons:

1. Archival purposes. I’m just really eager to get this thing on the record.

2. If someone else wants to take over. This is a little more ridiculous. A fan edit takes a lot of time, and I can’t imagine someone would want to take that time working on a project that isn’t “theirs” so to speak. The thing is though, I really wouldn’t mind if someone else took over. The main reason I came up with this idea wasn’t because I wanted to do an edit, but because this was a way I wanted to watch the saga. So, if there’s anyone lurking out there who’s been thinking about doing a saga edit, this is all yours.

Anyways, that’s about it.

MrInsaneA said:

DominicCobb said:

I auctually think that the main reason AOTC sucks is because it has the worst pacing of all of them.

AOTC sucks because it has a terrible mystery plot, and a terrible romantic plot. The pacing itself however, is easily worked around (Taking out the Yoda/Younglings scene, and the Dex's Diner scene is a good example as to how) TPM however, always seems to have terrible pacing no matter how it's edited. 

Ah, I see what you mean. I thought we were just talking about the original films. In terms of edits, yes, I have noticed that TPM's pacing is unfixable while AOTC's isn't.

I auctually think that the main reason AOTC sucks is because it has the worst pacing of all of them.

That's really dissapointing. Not for me, but for you. I've been interested in this edit for awhile now, but that interest is nothing compared to the time and effort you must have into this edit. I can't begin to understand what you're feeling. Stay strong, and good luck.

Bingowings said:

To a degree I'd agree with you there Mr Cobb.

It could be argued that some of these 'inconsistencies' add realism.

As in the real world, damaged vent covers sometimes wouldn't get fixed and lightbulbs (or whatever they use on Bespin) wouldn't get immediately changed.

One of the reasons the PT looks so plastic is because it lacks little details like that which may have been accidental but add to the flavour of the piece.

But there is no harm in pointing them out so if Ady does want to screw a bulb in there he knows where to set up his ladder (so to speak).

For what its worth I actually don't think any of those vents need to be fixed. My comment was more of a response to muddyknees' general statement about telling a story vs. fixing things in the background (which was a joke? I'm sorry, I guess I need to pay more attention).