TFA edges out ROTJ and I don’t think a fan edit for either would do much to change that.

In terms of cinematic language though, muffled sounds seem truer even if they’re not in real life. That it’d be muffled is what would make the joke of not hearing him work.

A Summary of My Thoughts on Yoda Swearing

First off, great joke. But the initial impression is, why no bleeps? Seems at first to be a mistake. Think about it some more, realize, “well, I guess because he’s behind glass.” Issue is it’s never established that the glass is sound proofed.

My Suggestion

Include the bleeps, but muffle them.

TV’s Frink said:

Ok guys, need a favor. There isn’t much new here, and it’s a long clip, but it’s important because it shows the inter-cutting between the death of Padme and birth of Vader. Need to know if it’s working.

There are a few minor changes, mainly I cut down some of the Robo footage, as well as adding one joke during it. There’s also a new scene at the end for your trouble.

Bonus points if you recognize the song. It was new to me.

(Side note to Frink - buy legit version of song and replace YouTube rip with it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM4B0mHZcUM

Recognized the song and appreciated its appropriateness.

I’d say you could still trim down the Robocop stuff and maybe one less back and forth from Vader to Padme. Otherwise, works like a charm.

Also, did they really wipe Vader’s memory?

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

I’m confused, are you referring to a specific app that doesn’t have a back button or do you literally want the iPad itself to have a back button?

I literally want a back button on the iPad.

The YouTube app on iOS is a perfect example. Half the time the back button is not available, or at least not immediately obvious, so when I want to go back to the list of videos from a currently playing video, it’s either not possible or a pain in the ass. On Android all I have to do is hit the back button on the phone. It doesn’t matter if the Android app has a back button or not because you can just consistently use the phone’s back button.

Interesting. As an iPhone user I never even considered a back button on the device itself (and don’t think ever needed it).

I’ve never used an iPad but I assume things are the same - swiping right typically is equivalent to going back. Can’t speak for the YouTube app because I don’t have it (I just go through safari).

I’m confused, are you referring to a specific app that doesn’t have a back button or do you literally want the iPad itself to have a back button?

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

DominicCobb said:

yhwx said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Classic Mala

Suggested avatar:

I’ll do one better:

Classic Malà

You ruined it.

Not for Malà. He likes it.

That’s why it’s ruined.

Fair point.

Classic XWHY.

This just isn’t funny.

Okay, this actually made me laugh.

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

adywan said:

The Dark Empire said:

I am not looking forward to see shoretroopers, woodtroopers, deathtroopers, watertroopers, sandtroopers or hover tank troopers and what so ever is about to come.

Then you won’t like Episode 4 because they have Sandtroopers 😉

Technically sandtroopers they were just stormtroopers with some extra gear, which is how it should be in most cases. Since stormtroopers were supposed to be elite units, I am still waiting to see regular army. It would be much better instead of some new dumb ideas.

In the OT we get introduced to Snowtroopers and Scout troopers after ep4. So, did you have a problem with those, or is this just because they are something new? Because, if you didn’t have a problem with the introduction of those, then you are being a bit of a hypocrite.

I had no problem with snowtroopers because the change of armour was justified by the extreme conditions. I had no problem with scouttroopers because they were an entirely different type of unit (i.e. not infantry). I have problem with beachtroopers (or whatever) because it doesn’t make sense for them to change armour just because they go to a beach. It is not an extreme condition like frozen Hoth. If stormtroopers did not require to change armour when they went to a very hot place like Tatooine, I don’t see the reason for them to change it when they go to a beach (unless when they go for R&R, but then they need a swimsuit, not an armour).

Interesting.

Those are navy seals in the diving gear coming from the dive. The comparison you are trying to make is stupid.

Don’t embarrass yourself.

The obvious point is that military forces utilize a variety of different combat gear, including some that are water resistant. This is one example. Don’t know why the Empire would do any different. Shore troopers need armor that isn’t going to waterlog them.

Like I said, navy seals use diving gear as a temporary solution for a very specific purpose (diving). They would drop it after the dive if ground combat was ahead. Shoretrooper armour doesn’t seems like a temporary solution just for diving. It is pretty much a standard outfit they would wear on the ground.

The shore trooper armor is for both environments.

At some point though we have to realize this is all speculation because we haven’t seen the film. But it seems ridiculous to say there’s no possible way to justify the shore trooper when we haven’t seen it in context.

Regardless, I don’t see how one could defend the scout trooper and not the shore. If the scout isn’t general infantry then why is the shore?

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

adywan said:

The Dark Empire said:

I am not looking forward to see shoretroopers, woodtroopers, deathtroopers, watertroopers, sandtroopers or hover tank troopers and what so ever is about to come.

Then you won’t like Episode 4 because they have Sandtroopers 😉

Technically sandtroopers they were just stormtroopers with some extra gear, which is how it should be in most cases. Since stormtroopers were supposed to be elite units, I am still waiting to see regular army. It would be much better instead of some new dumb ideas.

In the OT we get introduced to Snowtroopers and Scout troopers after ep4. So, did you have a problem with those, or is this just because they are something new? Because, if you didn’t have a problem with the introduction of those, then you are being a bit of a hypocrite.

I had no problem with snowtroopers because the change of armour was justified by the extreme conditions. I had no problem with scouttroopers because they were an entirely different type of unit (i.e. not infantry). I have problem with beachtroopers (or whatever) because it doesn’t make sense for them to change armour just because they go to a beach. It is not an extreme condition like frozen Hoth. If stormtroopers did not require to change armour when they went to a very hot place like Tatooine, I don’t see the reason for them to change it when they go to a beach (unless when they go for R&R, but then they need a swimsuit, not an armour).

Interesting.

Those are navy seals in the diving gear coming from the dive. The comparison you are trying to make is stupid.

Don’t embarrass yourself.

The obvious point is that military forces utilize a variety of different combat gear, including some that are water resistant. This is one example. Don’t know why the Empire would do any different. Shore troopers need armor that isn’t going to waterlog them.

imperialscum said:

adywan said:

The Dark Empire said:

I am not looking forward to see shoretroopers, woodtroopers, deathtroopers, watertroopers, sandtroopers or hover tank troopers and what so ever is about to come.

Then you won’t like Episode 4 because they have Sandtroopers 😉

Technically sandtroopers they were just stormtroopers with some extra gear, which is how it should be in most cases. Since stormtroopers were supposed to be elite units, I am still waiting to see regular army. It would be much better instead of some new dumb ideas.

In the OT we get introduced to Snowtroopers and Scout troopers after ep4. So, did you have a problem with those, or is this just because they are something new? Because, if you didn’t have a problem with the introduction of those, then you are being a bit of a hypocrite.

I had no problem with snowtroopers because the change of armour was justified by the extreme conditions. I had no problem with scouttroopers because they were an entirely different type of unit (i.e. not infantry). I have problem with beachtroopers (or whatever) because it doesn’t make sense for them to change armour just because they go to a beach. It is not an extreme condition like frozen Hoth. If stormtroopers did not require to change armour when they went to a very hot place like Tatooine, I don’t see the reason for them to change it when they go to a beach (unless when they go for R&R, but then they need a swimsuit, not an armour).

Interesting.

Also can we stop calling storm troopers elite troopers? When was that ever the case in the films?

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

yhwx said:

DominicCobb said:

yhwx said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Classic Mala

Suggested avatar:

I’ll do one better:

Classic Malà

You ruined it.

Not for Malà. He likes it.

That’s why it’s ruined.

Fair point.

Classic XWHY.

yhwx said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Classic Mala

Suggested avatar:

I’ll do one better:

Classic Malà

You ruined it.

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

Weak???

Classic Mala.

Do you understand what cue I’m talking about ?

Classic DominiqueCobe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjhy51XW9MY

There is an inadequate use of synthetic (and annoying) sounds. Not a big fan of how Williams composed (and orchestrated) this short sequence.

But hey, if you think ESB is 1000% perfection that’s hard to swallow I guess.

Do you understand what I’m talking about? Clearly not because I never said ESB was 1000% perfection and I don’t believe that to be the case.

And yes I knew exactly what cue you were talking about because that was the cue you were referred to. What else would you be talking about?

Anyway, I think that’s a fantastic portion of the score. The synth is atypical but isn’t the slow motion as well? Makes sense that the music reflects the change in style. As for the rest of the cue (featuring the epic rendition of the underused dark side motif), if you don’t like it I don’t even know what to say.

Weak???

Classic Mala.

It’s probably important to remember though that New Vegas is basically just taking the already great 3 and just adding shit on to it (with different storyline, location, etc.). So it’d be hard for it to be worse but for most people who say 3 is better it’s because that game was amazing when it came out and blew them away and then New Vegas was more of the same (not in a bad way, just not in a “oh my god this is amazing” way).

It’s crazy when people say Phasma was a waste or whatever. It’s so obvious that they were just introducing her to have in their pocket for later bad assery.

I very much look forward to the Finn/Poe bromance (romance?) as I think there are many possibilities (and it’ll surely be great fun). Honestly their interactions and the Rey/Luke dynamic are by far the things I’m looking forward to the most.

The one unfortunate thing about TFA is that we never saw Rey and Poe meet. Surely they did, but off screen. Just a little frustrating that the new trio hasn’t completely had a proper introduction to each other and also who knows when we’ll actually get to see them as a trio (though the OT trio is together not all that often and the PT trio almost never).

adywan said:

Tyrphanax said:

I agree, honestly. I didn’t particularly feel like it shrank the universe myself, but it does seem like they’re more interested in creating new designs. I’m okay with that too, but they could at least throw us a bone beyond bringing back two established characters.

That’s still two more than they brought back for ESB. All new creatures for that one 😉

We saw a lot of familiar creatures in the PT, ANH & ROTJ mainly because of Tatooine. TFA had all new worlds, just like ESB. The only two films in the saga so far that don’t feature that planet. Personally i love seeing new designs and i hope they stick with this direction.

Agreed, well put.

The thing is too that I know for a fact people would be complaining if they reused aliens (not saying the same people). You can’t win.

I love that there were so many new designs and I’m sure we’ll see familiar species again at some point.

Lord Haseo said:

Barely. He still broke the Bat and he still planned literally every phase of the plan even down to the time in which the bomb was going to explode. That’s like saying Vader is totally undermined by Palpatine. Just because both take orders from someone else doesn’t negate their accomplishments.

Exactly. People assume things about the Talia reveal that just aren’t the case. Bane didn’t just do it for Talia. Because he cried and loved her doesn’t make him any less of a bad ass or a clever villain.

Chewie aside, the rebellion didn’t have an alien in their ranks until ROTJ.

Now I’m not going to argue that the Emperor isn’t different looking because he’s an evil wizard - that’s obviously the intention. But there really is nothing in the film to suggest he couldn’t be an alien. In fact, he looks quite a bit like some of the rebel aliens (prune faces).

I like the Empire-as-specieist idea, and it fits, but it’s not a part of the films’ text. He’ll who’s to say the storm troopers aren’t aliens?

Tyrphanax said:

Lord Haseo said:

Christ almighty man…then he goes to defeat Darth Vader AND Sidious. Mary Sue/Gary Stu/Bary Flu doesn’t even describe it.

Yeah. That’s not how the Force works.

They were fun to play, I will give them that. But boy if you even stop to think about the story and its implications on Star Wars in general, your brain will melt out through your ears.

Exactly. Fun games and fun to think of as a “what if.” None of it should be taken seriously canon-wise, and thankfully now they’re officially not.

Lord Haseo said:

NeverarGreat said:

Lord Haseo said:

In the audiobook the narrator pronounces it “Lah-ah-uke”

Also I don’t think I would call it lazy because having Luke fight an insane clone of himself is pretty bold as it’s a pretty out there concept. I think him fighting another Dark Side user who is more machine than man would have been lazy.

It might have been a serviceable concept if it were given time to breathe in The Last Command, but as it is it’s pretty terrible.

I agree that it should have had more development. Luuke came out of fucking nowhere.

Most of Zahn’s writing on the Force makes it feel like a comic book superpower, rather than a spiritual one.

I’m going to need examples because going off my memory he wrote the Force as if…it’s just the Force. Nothing seemed different about it as it was establish in the OT. I’m not even sure how one could discern the difference between a comic book power and a spiritual one.

I’ve barely only started his first book but already there’s a Force kryptonite… so there.

Tyrphanax said:

FanFiltration said:

Fast & Furious (2009) - C+
Fast 5 (2011) - C+
Fast & Furious 6 (2013) - C
Furious 7 (2015) - C

Not as bad as I thought they would be.

I always thought they were just stupid “car” movies for boy racers when they were coming out, but I recently sat down and watched them all with my brother and they’re actually pretty fun and enjoyable action flicks that don’t take themselves seriously at all. They’re very self-aware and it seems like all the people involved are just having a good time together.

Exactly!

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

Please tell me that’s old EU.

Nah it’s from the current run Star Wars main series comics. Luke gets captured by a Hutt who collects Jedi artifacts as his crown jewel and then the gang shows up to rescue him.

Damn, that’s depressing…

MalàStrana said:

You’re making an AOTC edit with color corrected bluray ? What are you going to change compared to Hal’s version (I’m curious).

Well not a lot. My initial plan was to just make it for myself but I’ll probably end up sharing it.

But the changes are minimal, and maybe not the most popular stuff - notables being the reinsertion of the droid factory sequence, some of Jar Jar’s dialogue, the Death Star plans, the name Tyrannus - and some little trims - Obi-Wan embarrassing Anakin, changeling stuff. Weird little things I know but like I said it’s for myself, and the main reason is for the color anyway.