frevious please stop basing your opinions on other people’s.
God I can’t watch that. “Epidemic”? That would imply it’s a bad thing that so many movies are passable. It’d be worse if they weren’t.
frevious please stop basing your opinions on other people’s.
Vader has a sense of humor for sure, but I don’t think he really goes for puns. Certainly not with that delivery.
The last shot is actually the Tantive going to hyperspace which has end of SW movie precedent with ESB. . . .
but it shouldn’t matter either way because this is not a traditional SW film.
Ugh oh, almighty RLM has spoken. Does this mean everyone has to change their opinions on the movie now?
Looks awesome. Since Harrison Ford is old, is that confirmation that he isn’t a replicant?
I never understood the whole Deckard-is-a-replicant-nonsense. Does it make the story/movie better if he is a replicant?
Quite the opposite.
I think the unfortunate truth is that JEJ’s voice is not what it once was. This is pretty evident in most of his Rebels appearances as well.
According to Pablo Hidalgo the RO “ending never changed”;
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/12/pablo-hidalgo-clarifies-bits-about-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story.htmlA bit odd, considering all the trailer shots suggesting a very different ending, but I’m guessing that he’s simply referring to the overall fates of the characters.
Act 3 =/= ending. I assume he means the last five minutes or so.
How can I use two wii nunchuck at the same time?
Grow a third hand (or find the spare one you put away with your N64 controllers).
I don’t know, the majority thing sounds kind of arbitrary.
I consider myself a Star Trek fan (though not a Trekkie or whatever) and I only like TOS and the movies. I think part of it has to do with the OT being the original. Not a great comparison but you can be a Jaws fan and only like the first film.
If it comes down to others’ perception, then I think when most people think of SW they first think of the OT. The books/comics/games etc. don’t even come to mind. With the PT, I think many will assume there’s a good chance they’re not even a factor. When it comes to the new movies, consider this common exchange nowadays: “I’m a Star Wars fan,” “Oh, really? What did you think of the new one(s)?”
If you don’t personally feel comfortable calling yourself a Star Wars fan that’s totally fine but I don’t think being just an OT fan and calling yourself a Star Wars fan sends as wrong of a message as you think.
If necessary you can just call yourself an “original” Star Wars fan and people will likely understand completely what that means.
All right, so it is Jyn’s theme I meant. It’s got the same chords as the main theme from Trek: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ84ymE53Ns
(1:10 for Dom’s link to Jyn’s theme, 0:43 for Trek)
Hmm yeah I think I can definitely hear some shared DNA there.
Being considered a Star Wars fan doesn’t mean you have to be a fan of the whole franchise. You can be a fan of just the OOT. I think what you’re a fan of is up to you.
Grow a third hand (or find the spare one you put away with your N64 controllers).
I loved the movie, just loved it. One thing I might change is the dialogue between the director and Vader on Mustafar. I would simply cut vader’s line about chocking on one’s ambitions, (he’s a sith for Chrissakes! Ambition is all he knows.)
I hated that line because Darth Vader does not use one-liners. But I don’t understand your point about him being a Sith.
And I hate the idea of putting anything more from ROTS in.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
As I previously corrected myself, he does not use cheesy one-liners.
Anakin does, though.
Anakin is not Vader. It’s quite obvious they are two completely different characters that have zero in common with each other.
Fairly certain its not explicitly stated in the films but I bet Vader really dislikes sand.
What I think is Jyn’s theme reminds me of Giacchino’s Trek theme (I’m not totally sure yet which theme is which on the R1 OST apart from the guardians of the Whills). It’s got some VERY similar chord changes.
Well there’s Jyn’s theme and then there’s what I’ve been calling the Rogue One theme but I guess they’re actually calling the “Hope” theme. Both have similar sounds to Giacchino’s Trek theme I guess but neither reminds me particularly of much of it.
Here’s both (Jyn’s theme for most of it, with the Hope theme starts at around 3:17):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42CTq5QZtI
Jyn’s theme actually has some similarities to the Yorktown theme from STBeyond (at 1:45):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfJSE8Ea94c
While the Hope theme sounds more like a SW main title fake out with the same first two notes and then going in a different direction.
Also, is it just me or did the melody for Jyn’s theme remind anyone else of the Star Crash main title?
Well here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBWO4HPh8k0
And god you’re right, sounds just like the Hope theme! Amazing! Long live Star Crash.
(I guess it’s full circle as both themes are designed as SW main title knock-off/homages)
Why would you fanedit such a perfect movie which is the best Star Wars since God spoke to Abraham ?
It’s spelled “Abrams.”
Once again the lack of backstory is not the issue. We’re all sensing something was off and trying to diagnose. People might be saying they want more backstory but that’s not what they need.
Rogue One isn’t about the characters, which is totally fine. It’s about the Rebel Alliance and its fight against the Empire. Which is great, but the story isn’t quite there. It feels to much like an anecdote. I wanted to see not just the struggle against the Empire but the struggle to bring the disparate factions together. The morally grey areas of the revolution. The dilemma of ends justifying the means. Whether to ally with terrorists. The motivations beyond just fighting a flag flying over the galaxy. And even the motivations on the other side of the coin, on the Empire’s side. It just happens to be that the best way to explore these ideas is through the characters.
These are things they all came so close to but just missed.
Another great point. The most important impact he had on the film is the transferring of information to the audience that Jyn was abandoned by him because people we’re starting to piece together who she really was. Other than that and the “Save The Rebellion…Save the dream” line he is completely useless just like Lor San Tekka in TFA.
Except Saw is made out to be a very important character in the film. Tekka is just an old ally with the map who sets thing in action at the start - no need to be anything more.
Nope
I am sorry to hear you don’t agree with the truth.
I am sorry to hear you have yet to grow out of your delusions, laser brain.
mapet318 said:
TESB
ANH
RO
TFA
RotJ
RotS
TPM
AotCSwitch TFA and RO and that is literally my order.
I’m glad to see this movie isn’t as divisive as TFA was. I mean when was the last time Star Wars fans agreed on something that didn’t involve a film sucking?
Yeah, it’s been pretty refreshing how even the loudest anti-TFA voices have been supportive of RO…except for one ridiculous troll, of course.
Part of it is that some of the loud voices aren’t even out. By nature, the spin-off isn’t garnering as much analysis, critical or otherwise. And I think the stakes are lower too with a spin-off, and the expectations aren’t sky high coming off so long a wait with TFA.
It may not be as great an event as TFA, but in no way is R1 flying under the radar. Nor has it been under marketed or underexposed to film going audiences. Here in 2016 there could be no greater film. If there are indeed people out there dying to bash R1 as they did TFA, this film has enough world wide exposure to have drawn them out.
I think R1 has broad appeal. Not everyone will like it better than TFA, though many do; however, there is a near conensus that it is good.
I’m not saying at all that RO is flying under the radar, that’s plainly untrue. I just mean the sheer fact of Episode VII meant people in general would be more critical and have more to say.
Character development =/= backstory.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think they needed to develop every single character. I just wish at least a few were more focused. It’s tricky when you have so many characters with so many different elements. The Krennic/Erso friend/foe dynamic hinted at but that never goes anywhere. The Saw Gerrera/terrorist aspect of the Rebellion of which is clearly there but otherwise completely unexplored. Jyn’s on-again, off-again rebellion and risking everything for the greater good (and how that relates to Galen) which is there but basically brushed over. The Cassian conflict which is very solid but doesn’t have any sort of meaningful resolution in regards to the moral dilemma of a violent Rebellion. Bodhi Rook and his connection to Galen/why he defected. Chirrut and Baze and anything about their religion/trust in the Force beyond what we can assume based on prior knowledge of the concept. These are all interesting things but far too unexplored. Some scenario in which many arcs are tied together with some thematic coherence would have been best route.
I do too think the film could have been longer. Team based war films often reach near 2 and a half hours and this had the leeway to do so as a standalone.
mapet318 said:
TESB
ANH
RO
TFA
RotJ
RotS
TPM
AotCSwitch TFA and RO and that is literally my order.
I’m glad to see this movie isn’t as divisive as TFA was. I mean when was the last time Star Wars fans agreed on something that didn’t involve a film sucking?
Yeah, it’s been pretty refreshing how even the loudest anti-TFA voices have been supportive of RO…except for one ridiculous troll, of course.
Part of it is that some of the loud voices aren’t even out. By nature, the spin-off isn’t garnering as much analysis, critical or otherwise. And I think the stakes are lower too with a spin-off, and the expectations aren’t sky high coming off so long a wait with TFA.
Every time I see someone complain about how safe TFA was, and then I think of all the shit Disney got for a female lead, a black co-lead, and a Hispanic co-co-lead, when I think of the film killing off Han, when I think of the way the film tore up the ending of Jedi and tore up Han and Leia’s relationship (both in good, realistic ways), the way that Luke didn’t appear until the last scene…I have to laugh my ass off at that person.
YUP.
There’s a version of the movie that’s “safe” and “giving people what they think want” and it certainly wasn’t that.
Nope