DominicCobb

Here we go again…

Worst thread ever?

You are turn?

Maybe they’ll get rid of “laser sword” too.

Damn, another good one.

That’s definitely better. Except you shouldn’t have to do a motion blur like that. If they are the same take, and you have the framing matched up (which it looks like you do), you should be able to get the shots lined up for the exact same timing so that it doesn’t jump any frames (which it looks like it is), and then from there a simple cross fade should do to blend the sources, quality-wise.

NFBisms said:

DominicCobb said:

Hal 9000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Hal, if you’re reading this, were the blu-ray deleted scenes ever upscaled like the DVD ones?

No; none of them struck me as useful at the time. They were not presented well, at any rate.

Did you do the upscaling? I thought it might have been someone else (Dr. Dre?).

Most are definitely worthless. But there are a couple fun bits in “Elevator Antics” and I think “Changes to the Constitution” should definitely have been in the film. What do you mean by not presented well? Is the picture quality much worse than the DVD ones? I haven’t watched them in a while.

Man, I’d have loved to been able to use “Changes to the Constitution.”

It’s a solid scene. Totally sets up Palpatine seeding distrust in the council with Anakin in ways almost no other scene does.

Might be worth checking with Dr. Dre to see if an upscale is possible. Unlike most of the blu-ray deleted scenes the effects are finished (at least as much as the other “finished” DVD scenes), and the quality shouldn’t be any lower than that of the other DVD deleted scenes.

Here’s one of my first tries at the “General Skywalker”…
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx-b_Drhy38rc2x6Q3lLUUdkemc/view?usp=sharing

Audio is seamless. The shot of Anakin is a little awkwardly short, though.

Also, on the “roger, roger” edit you did, is the deleted scene not the same take? If it is, you shouldn’t need to use that kind of transition.

MalàStrana said:

The webmaster of jwfan.com… and also of OT.com if I’m not mistaken.

Two different people I believe.

Hal 9000 said:

DominicCobb said:

Hal, if you’re reading this, were the blu-ray deleted scenes ever upscaled like the DVD ones?

No; none of them struck me as useful at the time. They were not presented well, at any rate.

Did you do the upscaling? I thought it might have been someone else (Dr. Dre?).

Most are definitely worthless. But there are a couple fun bits in “Elevator Antics” and I think “Changes to the Constitution” should definitely have been in the film. What do you mean by not presented well? Is the picture quality much worse than the DVD ones? I haven’t watched them in a while.

A fascinating read about why some people thought it’d be a great idea to elect a meme as a president:
https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.6qk6dp66s

I always forget about the blu-ray deleted scenes. The “roger roger” bit is nice.

Hal, if you’re reading this, were the blu-ray deleted scenes ever upscaled like the DVD ones?

Mocata said:

I’m fairly certain aspects of the story were developed with the story group (and quite likely the TFA writing team), but there’s nothing wrong with Johnson going solo on writing duties. In fact, I think it will be interesting to see a singular vision in that regard.

I guess it’s possible, it would be interesting even if he just got to flesh out an existing plan for the narrative. But I’m just suspicious that this is all a Lucasfilm board room creation after the 2-3 named writers on TFA. It’s probably all just done with a committee.
“I am not a committee” - Rian Johnson, probably.

The story group is no committee. They’re just a group of people who love and know a lot of things about Star Wars and are trying to keep continuity within the universe.

I don’t think they were involved much beyond brainstorming and consultation. Even though JJ and co. set up an idea of where things would go, it seems like Johnson had a lot of freedom to decide what would happen (hence writing the treatment for IX and also giving small input on TFA).

And there’s nothing wrong with 2-3 credited writers on a film. Having a lot of people to bounce ideas around is a good thing. I get the fear of too many cooks but ultimately it came down to a team of just two writers calling the shots with JJ being the final arbiter. It’s clear how that situation broke down if you read the Art of TFA book or watch the interview they gave (at WGA I think). Basically Ardnt had been hired to write and they were developing with him, until it was decided JJ and Kasdan would write together. A completely organic creative process.

The idea people have in their mind of Disney execs focus grouping the most profitable ideas for the script and writing them down is just a complete fiction.

Mithrandir said:

DominicCobb said:
“Move, ball” says a lot about his personality but nothing about his current situation in life. “Being Han Solo” doesn’t tell the full story.

What do you need the full story for? Or better, what’s the point of telling the “full story” if the character didn’t change at all since last time you saw him in OT?

Ah yes because when we meet him in TFA he is exactly where we last saw him in ROTJ, having has cast aside his smuggling ways to be with Leia and the cause.

As I said, there is nothing wrong with a stagnant character. The problem is when I film sets up a character for change but then doesn’t resolve it. If they wanted to tell Cassian’s story as the “unavoidable fate of a soldier,” they should have told that story. Instead that gave him a moral quandary but didn’t go anywhere with it.

They told that story. He died. He made decissions that made it unfair that he died, but he did because that’s how war is. The whole point of the film was exactly that, good and mortal people that are not as lucky destiny-blessed Luke but turned out to be exactly as important as him.

Just because that is the basic what happened, doesn’t mean they did any justice to telling that story.

Editroid said:

The plans with the dish on the equator were very clearly shown on the screen as they being downloaded to the disc they gave to Leia.

DominicCobb said:

Editroid said:

ray_afraid said:

DominicCobb said:

Pink or red doesn’t really matter. They’re engines, the colors don’t mean anything.

Doesn’t matter at all, but I do prefer the pink glow. Makes it look weird and sci-fi.

The Death Star graphics though is something I’m worried about. It was a simple mistake in the original. Rogue One using the same graphics was their way of fixing the mistake - same as adywan in ANHR - by making it seem like it was intentional. But it still makes little sense, and requires a bullshit explanation outside of the film to explain why it’s that way (the hard drive has every version of the plans I guess?). Even with that silly explanation, it doesn’t make any sense at all for the Rebels to be using and showing out of date plans when they’re planning their attack. I think you can still keep continuity with RO and still fix the plans (in RO we see early versions of the plans and in ANH we see the current plans). To use the old graphics for the briefing scene is a huge misstep, I think.

Yep. I’d much rather see Ady add the updated plans to R1 instead of demoting his change in ANH:R For all the reasons you’ve stated.

Okay, then. What would YOUR in-universe explanation be for the different looking Death Star plans when taking both Rogue One and A New Hope Revisited into account?

Read his comment again.

Mithrandir said:

DominicCobb said:
If you don’t understand or like Rey’s character, too bad for you. But her story is much more fully formed.

Being a fan of the OT, I understand Rey’s character 😉

Her story isn’t “much more fully formed”, it’s just more explicit. In which grade that’s undoubtedly a better thing, I invite you to enlighten me.

Well I think we disagree that it isn’t more fully formed.

To me, “Move, ball” will always be and say a lot more about Han Solo still being Han Solo than having 15 minutes wasted with the “guabian death gang”; but whatever.

“Move, ball” says a lot about his personality but nothing about his current situation in life. “Being Han Solo” doesn’t tell the full story.

Hasn’t it occured to you that perhaps the whole point of Cassian wasn’t to go somewhere? Maybe he was just all about showing the unavoidable fate of a soldier, and the shit that war is and how it hardens a human being.

I can understand that in the midst of this nineties youth, the idea that not everybody has the opportunity to choose in life doesn’t seem as appealing as all the free will stuff that sinks us today. But stories and characters that end up exactly where they started, (greek tragedies, death in samarra, etc.) are just an equally valid part of the spectrum.

As I said, there is nothing wrong with a stagnant character. The problem is when I film sets up a character for change but then doesn’t resolve it. If they wanted to tell Cassian’s story as the “unavoidable fate of a soldier,” they should have told that story. Instead that gave him a moral quandary but didn’t go anywhere with it.

Yes. Cassian’s character is well defined but he doesn’t go anywhere. There’s nothing wrong with a monolithic character, but when you set up questions about a characters ethics and create interesting conflicts for their way of doing things, you can’t just botch the landing by putting that all aside and not saying anything meaningful. He doesn’t have to change to be interesting, but resolving his arc with “I have to help you Jyn because I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I didn’t” is just a short cut cop out of a more thought out resolution.

If you don’t understand or like Rey’s character, too bad for you. But her story is much more fully formed.

Editroid said:

ray_afraid said:

DominicCobb said:

Pink or red doesn’t really matter. They’re engines, the colors don’t mean anything.

Doesn’t matter at all, but I do prefer the pink glow. Makes it look weird and sci-fi.

The Death Star graphics though is something I’m worried about. It was a simple mistake in the original. Rogue One using the same graphics was their way of fixing the mistake - same as adywan in ANHR - by making it seem like it was intentional. But it still makes little sense, and requires a bullshit explanation outside of the film to explain why it’s that way (the hard drive has every version of the plans I guess?). Even with that silly explanation, it doesn’t make any sense at all for the Rebels to be using and showing out of date plans when they’re planning their attack. I think you can still keep continuity with RO and still fix the plans (in RO we see early versions of the plans and in ANH we see the current plans). To use the old graphics for the briefing scene is a huge misstep, I think.

Yep. I’d much rather see Ady add the updated plans to R1 instead of demoting his change in ANH:R For all the reasons you’ve stated.

Okay, then. What would YOUR in-universe explanation be for the different looking Death Star plans when taking both Rogue One and A New Hope Revisited into account?

Read his comment again.

Mocata said:

As for TLJ and the actual topic at hand I am curious about Rian Johnson being the sole credited writer. Is this a good thing? Perhaps. Is that even a realist credit for a movie this large? Perhaps not. At least his inspirations are WW2 and samurai movies, which are apt. I need Rey’s arc to be something original, and I need the future of the First Order to be satisfactory. Most people’s suspicions on how Luke will deal with things are probably correct since Lawrence Kasdan got his ROTJ wishes in motion to have him be a lone wanderer. I just want progression overall to be honest.

I’m fairly certain aspects of the story were developed with the story group (and quite likely the TFA writing team), but there’s nothing wrong with Johnson going solo on writing duties. In fact, I think it will be interesting to see a singular vision in that regard.

BB-8’s younger sibling?

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I think anyone who enjoys Rogue One more than TFA or any of the OT films just wanted a simple and original story filled with fun characters and nice explosions. Doesn’t matter if the plot is inconsistent and certain things are glossed over or that most of the characters are paper thin because Rogue One is a fun ride overall.

Speaking of inconsistent plot and glossed over things, TFA pretends that plot is about finding Luke while in reality it is about destroying death star. R1 has nothing anywhere this scale.

Speaking of paper thin characters, Krennic and Cassian are by far more interesting and complex than any of the “paper thin” character in TFA.

I think you should stop finding lame false explanations about R1 and TFA in order to feel better. You should face the fact that R1 is simply good and TFA is crap. Those of us who like R1 and dislike TFA simply accept this truth.

Aren’t you the one who’s always saying there’s no objective measure for a film’s quality?

At least be consistent with your fuckery, or get out of here.

Pink or red doesn’t really matter. They’re engines, the colors don’t mean anything.

The Death Star graphics though is something I’m worried about. It was a simple mistake in the original. Rogue One using the same graphics was their way of fixing the mistake - same as adywan in ANHR - by making it seem like it was intentional. But it still makes little sense, and requires a bullshit explanation outside of the film to explain why it’s that way (the hard drive has every version of the plans I guess?). Even with that silly explanation, it doesn’t make any sense at all for the Rebels to be using and showing out of date plans when they’re planning their attack. I think you can still keep continuity with RO and still fix the plans (in RO we see early versions of the plans and in ANH we see the current plans). To use the old graphics for the briefing scene is a huge misstep, I think.

MalàStrana said:

1anakin said:

Natalie’s acting is terrible

Natalie Portman is usually a terrible actress, no exception in her SW films !

Actually she’s a fine actress, with the exception being her SW films.

LuckyGungan2001 said:

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Legacy-Jedi-1/dp/0439536669

???

SHHH!

LG, I’ll sell it to you for $200. No less.

ALLOL, no need, but would you be able to tell me what the actual cover is, inside the dust jacket, because I found an edition that doesn’t include the dust jacket and I want to know if it will just be the regular cover or black with the title, like a lot of hardback books.

Actually, a photograph would be lovely, if it’s not too hard.

Unfortunately me and my book collection are on opposite sides of the United States right now, so, while I’d be happy to provide a picture, it actually would be a little too hard at present.

I can say, going from memory, that I’m about 85% sure the cover is the same under the jacket. Then again, I can’t remember anything about the book itself, so maybe take that with a grain of salt, but I am pretty sure.

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Legacy-Jedi-1/dp/0439536669

???

SHHH!

LG, I’ll sell it to you for $200. No less.

OH MY GOD I OWN THAT BOOK.