DominicCobb

I disliked that first Vader scene the moment I saw it and haven’t changed my mind since. Doubt we’re the only ones.

I came in because you were taking a post I made and putting it in a context that made no sense. I don’t really care that much, I just can’t understand why you seem to.

He literally only mentioned your name in reference to the fact that he was ignoring you.

I can report your post^, if you want. It certainly qualifies for the things you mentioned - Frink vs. Fo, unwanted harassment.

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Alderaan, I’m not sure if you’re a troll or just have mental health issues, but if you’re getting so worked up over the words and opinions of others I suggest maybe trying to step away from the keyboard for a bit.

It doesn’t work me up at all. On the contrary, there are the half dozen of you who cry and cry every time I post in a thread. I’m airing it all out right now, frankly, to try and defuse the situation.

OP, sorry for the derail. Carry on.

I only see people calling you out on bullshit and then you crying about it.

I only object to a very, very small number of hostile posts against me. I have no problem with people being critical of my position, or mocking me, or anything else like that. I only speak up when people misrepresent what I say, or otherwise post in a dishonest or insincere manner. A few people have had imaginary conversations with me, and attributed things to me I’ve never said. They let previous conversations and animosity carry into new topics, derailing threads.

Ironic that this all started with you misrepresenting what someone else said and then mocking them. Maybe you should just admit to being wrong and let it go instead of continuing the thread derailment yourself.

Alderaan said:

DominicCobb said:

Alderaan, I’m not sure if you’re a troll or just have mental health issues, but if you’re getting so worked up over the words and opinions of others I suggest maybe trying to step away from the keyboard for a bit.

It doesn’t work me up at all. On the contrary, there are the half dozen of you who cry and cry every time I post in a thread. I’m airing it all out right now, frankly, to try and defuse the situation.

OP, sorry for the derail. Carry on.

I only see people calling you out on bullshit and then you crying about it.

They already rereleased the original 77 adaptation recently in a couple different forms. This doesn’t mean anything either way.

Alderaan, I’m not sure if you’re a troll or just have mental health issues, but if you’re getting so worked up over the words and opinions of others I suggest maybe trying to step away from the keyboard for a bit.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

TV’s Frink said:

Updated (I think?) after watching RO for a second time.

1 ANH/ESB
2 ESB/ANH
3 TFA
4 RO/ROTJ
5 ROTJ/RO
6 TPM
7 ROTS
8 AOTC

I’m almost completely on board with this, the only difference being that I’ve come to think ROTS is worse than AOTC.

I get saying ROTS is worse than TPM, but worse than AOTC??

AOTC’s saving grace is that I fall asleep halfway through and don’t have to finish it. For that, it’s better than Sith, which is barely interesting enough to keep one awake, but does nonetheless.

I will say both are considerably better in fan edited form (while TPM only marginally improves). Though, despite that, I’m not sure if factoring fan edits into my ranking would really change any of my placements.

Hello again

NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

emanswfan said:

Most recent thoughts on my ranking:

1- SW (always been my favorite)
2- RO (most like my favorite for obvious reasons)

Rogue One would probably make my top 3 simply because of its unique tone but for the final scene. The movie prides itself on being a more grounded and realistic take on the Star Wars universe, but the discontinuity of the Tantive being at the Scarif battle, the plans being carried onto the ship instead of being beamed from afar, and the fact that the rebels knew that Vader had seen them escape makes the entire exercise ring hollow for me. In a more ‘delightful’ movie such as TFA this sort of continuity issue wouldn’t be as big a deal, but here it really ruins the film. I’ve described it like a runner tripping at the finish line and breaking their nose two inches from the ribbon.

It’s funny because I don’t even mind that. First of all, it’s discontinuity with another movie, so by itself it’s not like the ending doesn’t make sense, only after the fact. Second of all, I’m not even sure it’s discontinuity. Sure, it’s definitely not the way most would have assumed things would go down, but if you think about it, so long as Vader just assumes the plans were beamed to the Tantive rather than Raddus’s ship (and the fact that he didn’t force grab the plans would imply he indeed wasn’t aware) then there’s no real continuity problem at all.

“The Rebel flagship is disabled, my lord, but has received transmissions from the surface.”
“Prepare a boarding party”

It seems very much like he thinks the plans were beamed to Raddus’s ship and there is no other ship with which they can escape, otherwise why not just destroy the flagship outright? They clearly think they have all the time in the world to take prisoners and recover what was stolen, and it’s a surprise for Vader when the Tantive escapes.

Well yeah it’s a surprise to Vader when the Tantive escapes, because I doubt he knew it was in there, but I think it’s the seeing it escape that would cause him to then assume that the plans had actually been beamed there rather than Raddus’s ship.

There was a lot less going on with the franchise at the time, though. And Blu-ray had been around for awhile without SW, so I think the mainstream demand for that set was higher than the demand for any SW home video set would be now (whether OOT and/or 4K).

NeverarGreat said:

emanswfan said:

Most recent thoughts on my ranking:

1- SW (always been my favorite)
2- RO (most like my favorite for obvious reasons)

Rogue One would probably make my top 3 simply because of its unique tone but for the final scene. The movie prides itself on being a more grounded and realistic take on the Star Wars universe, but the discontinuity of the Tantive being at the Scarif battle, the plans being carried onto the ship instead of being beamed from afar, and the fact that the rebels knew that Vader had seen them escape makes the entire exercise ring hollow for me. In a more ‘delightful’ movie such as TFA this sort of continuity issue wouldn’t be as big a deal, but here it really ruins the film. I’ve described it like a runner tripping at the finish line and breaking their nose two inches from the ribbon.

It’s funny because I don’t even mind that. First of all, it’s discontinuity with another movie, so by itself it’s not like the ending doesn’t make sense, only after the fact. Second of all, I’m not even sure it’s discontinuity. Sure, it’s definitely not the way most would have assumed things would go down, but if you think about it, so long as Vader just assumes the plans were beamed to the Tantive rather than Raddus’s ship (and the fact that he didn’t force grab the plans would imply he indeed wasn’t aware) then there’s no real continuity problem at all.

imperialscum said:

1. OT
2. R1
3. PT
4. TFA

You literally posted the exact same thing two weeks ago.

joefavs said:

DominicCobb said:

I get saying ROTS is worse than TPM, but worse than AOTC??

ROTS has everything I dislike about the other two, but more of it. Awful, awkward interactions between Anakin and Padme? Check. Yoda flipping around like a jackass and overdoing it with the backwards talk? Check. Comedy battle droids? Check. Major plot info delivered in scenes where two characters are just standing in a room doing nothing? Check. Add to that how badly they flubbed the Jedi purge and how thoroughly ridiculous Palpatine became in the second half, and I think you’ve got a solid case for it being the worst. It’s peak PT. All of Lucas’s worst impulses were firing on all cylinders.

Also, I kind of like the set piece with the creatures in the arena in AOTC, at least until the Jedi show up. I can’t come up with anything I can say that about in ROTS.

Fair enough. I can see where you’re coming from.

I’d personally argue that the awkward interactions between Anakin and Padme are far more prominent in AOTC to the point where they overwhelm a significant portion of the film. I’d also say that whiny Anakin is much more of an issue in AOTC, and he seems much more like friends with Obi-Wan in ROTS. I’d also say that while both have way too much CGI, it at least looks a lot better in ROTS. And I also think for the most part the action and drama is far more engaging in ROTS than AOTC (and the pacing is much better).

joefavs said:

TV’s Frink said:

Updated (I think?) after watching RO for a second time.

1 ANH/ESB
2 ESB/ANH
3 TFA
4 RO/ROTJ
5 ROTJ/RO
6 TPM
7 ROTS
8 AOTC

I’m almost completely on board with this, the only difference being that I’ve come to think ROTS is worse than AOTC.

I get saying ROTS is worse than TPM, but worse than AOTC??

No hate, just things that bugged me the first time around I’ve realized actually are rather large problems that I can’t quite ignore on repeat viewings.

Yeah my opinion hasn’t changed that much either. It’s just that things I disliked the first time I saw it I now dislike more (though I still in general like it).

Yeah it’s the opposite for me.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Alderaan said:

Let me try

Alderaan said:

[nothing that anyone cares about]

Haha yes I also just realized I walked into a thread I’m trying to avoid… whoops

Well I doubt very much Anchored would agree that Rogue One is a poorly made film so…

darthrush said:

I have been wanting to try recutting the duel between Kylo and Finn so that Kylo instantly goes on the offensive, and never gets hit by Finn, and the duel would basically become a one sided ass beating that gets handed to Finn like you would logically expect it to be. I’m relatively pleased with the result and am curious if you guys find it effective at all:

https://vimeo.com/213375768

I personally don’t think this is wise. Going into the fight, we know Ren is a powerful force user and Finn, while trained in melee combat, is not quite good enough to hold his own. So the fact that Finn will lose is a forgone conclusion, and the longer the fight is the more the tension of “is Finn going to die or just get seriously maimed” builds." And it lasts a while not because Finn is really doing all that well, only because Ren is toying with him. He’s too cocky and not factoring in that he’s wounded, and that’s how Finn gets a hit on him. But of course, once the happens, he’s all businesses and Finn is done. But showing that cockiness is important because it’s the same reason Rey is able to catch him off guard and eventually defeat him.

Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:

You’re right actually. If you dislike TFA and Rogue One because of reasons XYZ that’s fine but there are people who hate those films because because of reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the films themselves. It stands the reason that someone who is grown should be able to not let outside shit influence their opinions but I just don’t know anymore.

The problem is Disney bought Star Wars, and is turning it into the dancing Vader disco nonsense, giving us the finger when we ask for the OOT, and instead pulling these bait and switches.

You want the OOT? What’s that? Don’t you mean you really want to watch a trailer for our new movie? Yeah! Ok 😃

First of all, dancing Vader has been at Disney since before the acquisition.

And I wouldn’t say they’re giving us the finger so much as ignoring us (there is a difference).

I don’t know what you mean by bait and switches. I thought you were certain they weren’t going to say anything about an OOT release at Celebration. Anyway, it’s not like they said they’d announce something big at the 40th Anniversary panel and then showed the TLJ trailer instead. They’re two completely separate things with completely separate people behind them. I don’t know why I always have to explain this but the omnipotent ~Disney~ is not making every single Star Wars decision. There are people in charge of home video distribution and there are people in charge of making films and they are not the same people.

Lord Haseo said:

Hopefully the Luke book is longer than Weapon of A Jedi.

Hard to tell at this point but it seems like the Luke book will be a legit novel or at least a YA one.

EDIT:

Has Claudia said anything about a Lost Stars sequel recently?

No idea. Still have to read that.

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Meanwhile, Battlefront II has a story campaign set after ROTJ from an Imperial perspective (and a companion book). Should be pretty cool.

I always thought it’d be five seasons, but I can’t say I’m really surprised considering how much things started ramping up this past season. Excited to see how it ends and how everything gets tied together (and how close to ANH they get).