Orville will give you your moral of the story episodes and Discovery will give you your grand arc. But I’m sure Discovery will get into their own moral of the story episodes once they get going.
I don’t see why you can’t do both.
I don’t even mind the humor, it just seems like an afterthought.
The Orville has left me nothing but bored. I don’t get the praise for that, I think it must be the low expectations - if that were actually Star Trek people would be complaining.
Going to try to watch Discovery tonight.
Hey guys.
Like many of you I have spent probably a bit too much time looking for the perfect prequel edits - whether that be by actually watching different versions or simply reading every available cutlist over and over, trying to figure out which one is the best. I don’t think any edits turn the prequels into great movies, but they make genuinely enjoyable films out of what many consider to be hopeless wastes of time.
Like everyone I’ve got my favorite edits for each prequel that I always turn to when the occasional marathon strikes (Hal’s I and II, L8’s III), and I’m reasonably happy when I watch them. Problem is there’s always something nagging at me, every time I watch any prequel edit, no matter which one it is. And that nagging is a voice inside my head saying “I would have done that differently.”
I’ve said it before, but I honestly believe the only perfect prequel edits are the ones you make for yourself. That’s why for the past year or so I’ve been doing just that.
Why useless? Well, like I said, it’s really just for me. I don’t have plans right now to release them or put them on IFDB. For one, they’re not done yet (though before TLJ comes out seems a reasonable goal). For two, I would need the blessings of a few different fan editors, some who I stole ideas from and some who I literally lifted exact audio and cuts from. And for three, some of the choices I’ve made are dumb and no one will like. As I said, these are for me.
Why even bother posting an essay about this then? Because I feel indebted to this community, and figured I’d pay it forward and share some of the things I’m doing that I haven’t seen done before. (Also I am willing to be persuaded to release these in full if there is enough interest to make it worth the effort.)
First off, just finished replacing SFX in this scene and thought I’d upload it for you guys. Keep in mind it’s a first pass, so still a little rough in some parts.
https://vimeo.com/235506550
pw: rots
This is one of the things I’m trying to do that I haven’t seen much of anyone else do - replace reused music from TPM. Ultimately the music is still recycled, but at least this time it’s something that injects a bit of the fun OT adventure spirit into one of the few places in ROTS where it fits.
(acknowledgements: most of the actually editing here is just Hal, I’ve also stolen a music idea from aalenfae at the end, and a cut from someone - don’t remember, help me here - near the beginning when Obi-Wan interrupts Anakin).
Let me know what you guys think. I’ll be posting more videos (very) sporadically.
This is murrica and we stand for this song that was written during a war that was going on many years after our country was founded!
No. It’s not just a song. It’s the National Anthem of the United States of America. Its words have meaning. Its symbolism has meaning. It is not just a song. To rob it of its symbolism is to say that respect for one’s country is pointless and holds no value. It’s to say that the people who work and fight to give us the freedoms that we have were doing so without need nor purpose, and we do not honor them because who gives a crap.
But to show protest of injustice by sitting during the anthem is a legitimate form of protest, and is not inherently disrespectful toward the country itself so long as the purpose of protest is made plain.
The way I understand it is that the players are not protesting the anthem, they’re not protesting the wording or the imagery or the ideals and virtues and values it conveys that the country stands for, they are instead protesting the country because they believe that the country does not currently stand for the ideals and virtues and values set forth in the anthem.
What they are saying: “Hey, there is a disconnect in what we think and say that the country stands for, and what it actually seems to stand for, especially for people of color. We are acknowledging this in the hopes that it is rectified.”
What they are not saying: “Hey we hate the anthem and America and the veterans!”
This logic and nuance, of course, has all been lost in the conservative-driven distilled rhetoric that these people just must simply hate America and her values and everything she stands for, which is asinine to say the least, and completely shunts all attention away from the real issues, fabricating an entirely different straw man issue and ultimately solving no problems and only further dividing an already-divided populace. It feels like nobody stops to think or empathize anymore, it’s just visceral, gut, knee-jerk reactions and opinions fed to them by cable “news” channels with no thought in between.
In fact, from what I’ve heard, the whole reason it’s (usually) kneeling instead of just sitting on the bench and ignoring the whole thing is in deference to the veterans who served the country in defense of her values and ideals.
Personally, I think it is incredibly moving to see the mass kneeling going on right now (I’d be even happier if people weren’t intentionally or unintentionally misconstruing it and actually taking action to understand and empathize and reflect inwardly and make some changes, but that’s humanity for you). In a few years from now when it becomes a fad way to protest whatever (like Chyron said), maybe that’ll have worn off by then, but for now I approve.
JEDIT: Usually I hate Twitter threads and when people post them, but I’m going to break all these rules right… now:
https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/900101086333292544
Yep yep yep.
America’s pledges of allegiance and various showings of national spirit are pretty extreme on a world scale as far as I can tell – several Germans I know were visibly shaken and alarmed at what they saw going on in grade-school American classrooms.
All especially and incredibly ironic considering “freedom” is the thing that apparently makes us so much better than anyone else (of course you can’t count on every American to pay attention to what nations outside their country are actually like).
Many of our country’s first settlers came here for freedom of religion. Yet now someone our citizens are shamed and bullied into worshipping the Almighty Flag and Anthem, no matter what.
Guys who made it were clearly under pressure.
The only thing less cool than Avatar is proudly proclaiming you’ve never seen Avatar.
Who gives a shit.
We have truly reached a low point in our society.
Yes, I agree - the president has publicly called citizens peacefully protesting “sons of bitches.” Despicable.
Frankly, you’re clueless. They are protesting police brutality and racism, not the anthem. And you’ll never get it, apparently, no matter how many times it’s explained to you. If you think they’re being disrespectful to the anthem, whatever, but at least that’s an opinion. Your belief that they are protesting the anthem itself is just plain dumb.
Yes.
The size of it makes me never want to go near it.
I’m not going to hold my breath until then, but the situation with Fox is very obviously the reason it hasn’t happened just yet.
The reason why it is not happening is because, next to any of the new stuff they make, OOT release is profit-wise basically nothing. In fact, all it would do is steal the attention from their new stuff.
No. That makes literally no sense.
I’m kinda team “don’t give a shit” about the “bad looking” puppets.
How do you even “fix” Max Rebo without just filming a new puppet altogether?
I would think Carrie’s death cast a shadow the long post production process.
No doubt, but I’m sure mourning eventually turned into appreciating and celebrating her final work.
There weren’t any pickups shot after were there?
Not that I’ve heard of, but I highly doubt there weren’t. Definitely doesn’t seem like anything crazy though (probably not anything Carrie’s death through much of a wrench into).
Hard to be sure, but now that The Last Jedi is all done (with almost 3 months to go until release), can we call this the smoothest production of a Star Wars film ever?
??? I wasn’t telling you look under the flag in the pic you posted. I was telling you to click on the link I provided and look at the 5th item under flag don’ts.
I guess this is your way of calling me captain obvious.
Boba Fett vs. the Ghost of Lando who loses first go
Oh, two Fs.
(including Rogue One, to which she went in costume - as Mara Jade)
That’s like mixing peanut butter and chocolate except the peanut butter is something called Jiff.
So… it tastes good?
You guys are just viewing your friends through nostalgia giggles.
Her characterization was so light in TFA I’m not even sure a novel could flesh her out enough for me to find her interesting.
You’re telling me you’ve never found a character in a novel interesting.
That’s not what I’m saying; what I’m saying is that she has so little characterization that not even a novel could add a significant amount depth to her.
That doesn’t make any sense. If she had little to no characterization, a novel would have plenty of space to add depth.
Think of all the characters who don’t even exist before they appear in a novel. You’re saying not even a novel could add depth to them?
Lando’s closet when he won the Falcon, obviously.
Lando got the better end of the deal of course because he used the opportunity to switch to capes.
Her characterization was so light in TFA I’m not even sure a novel could flesh her out enough for me to find her interesting.
You’re telling me you’ve never found a character in a novel interesting.
It’d honestly be weird if it didn’t cover at least one previously mentioned story beat (most likely either Kessel Run and/or getting Falcon from Lando). I really don’t understand this “how dare they show something that’s been talked about before!” attitude.
I mean, sure, you don’t want to see everything we know about Han and Chewie come into place in one movie. But at the same time what makes more sense, that a big event in a chronologically previous film would be mentioned in a later one, or that it wouldn’t be mentioned at all? If you don’t show at least one of the big pre-OT Han tales, it’s kind of like, what the fuck’s the point?
I am curious to what extent ady means when he calls this a fan edit.
With ESBR and ANHR (Purist) you had basically the same films, edit-wise (besides small, almost unnoticeable adjustments), with the idea being a sort of special special edition, meaning mostly visual fixes. I wonder if the special special edition changes to ROTJ inherently change the edit in larger ways (i.e. alternate Boba death, additional and/or different pilots and fighters, additional and/or different battle scenes on Endor, etc.). Basically I’m curious if there’s really much of any editing planned beyond what is necessary to implement the new elements and maintain a good pace.
I’ll take it either way, of course.