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DominicCobb

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#1119088
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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Frank your Majesty said:

ToscheStation said:

DominicCobb said:

ToscheStation said:

DominicCobb said:

Because he is a great and wise Jedi master?

Regardless, what I’m trying to say is that I don’t understand what your larger point is.

Right. So…Yoda would have been in the movies even if Ben hadn’t died in the first one?

Could have, certainly, would have, I don’t know. Again, I’m not even sure what the point of this hypothetical is.

The point is that if Lucas only* introduced Yoda because he killed Ben off, and otherwise wouldn’t have introduced a strong and wise Jedi Master character into the trilogy, then it shows that Lucas’ penchant for making things up as he goes along was something that goes back almost to the beginning of Star Wars. It’s not something that he just started doing with Return of the Jedi. The same goes with Ben’s character. The character of Ben Kenobi was created to take the place of the father character who had been killed off in the story (as of the third draft), whereas prior to that he was to have been still alive in the story (in these earlier versions, Jedi knights trained their own children). So, as Yoda was a sort of ‘proxy’ for Ben, Ben himself was a ‘proxy’ for Luke’s father.

My overall point is that the “shrinking-universe” phenomenon is part of Star Wars’ “dna”, if you will

*Lucas himself even said that prior to killing off Ben, when thinking of potential sequels, he wanted Ben to train Luke in the other two films and then maybe have him die in the third.

There is no doubt that Lucas made it up as he went along. But that’s not what universe shrinking is about.

Yeah, exactly.

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#1119065
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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ToscheStation said:

DominicCobb said:

Because he is a great and wise Jedi master?

Regardless, what I’m trying to say is that I don’t understand what your larger point is.

Right. So…Yoda would have been in the movies even if Ben hadn’t died in the first one?

Could have, certainly, would have, I don’t know. Again, I’m not even sure what the point of this hypothetical is.

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#1119018
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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This argument is ridiculous. Leia being Luke’s sister is universe shrinkage because they were two separate people with disparate stories and backgrounds that didn’t come together until those fateful events in the original film. Making them siblings causes their backgrounds and stories to come from the same place.

Vader’s story, on the other hand, is already intertwined with that of Luke’s father. Key difference.

The stuff about Yoda doesn’t even make sense.

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#1118561
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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SilverWook said:

I so want a Tag and Bink film to happen. Why can’t a spinoff film be a comedy?

Hypothetically that’s what this could be. We’ll see how far they take it (rumor being that Lord and Miller took it too far).

moviefreakedmind said:

SilverWook said:

I so want a Tag and Bink film to happen. Why can’t a spinoff film be a comedy?

The spinoffs should be a way for them to experiment with other genres. They almost did that with Rogue One (but didn’t actually).

Fixed.

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#1118221
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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If the point is to explain why people are hesitant to freak out when the star destroyer appears, the second is better. Hypothetically they both mean the same thing, but it wouldn’t necessarily play that way. When the First Order attacks and Finn isn’t safe there two minutes later, it’s a contradiction. The latter option makes it clearer that it’s a purposeful contradiction (the subtler option is tough when it’s such a brief exchange and moves so quickly to the next thing).