Depends on why you didn’t like TFA.
Yes, on my second go round I went with a friend who didn’t like TFA, but ended up quite enjoying TLJ.
The best Spider-man movie to date features Peter losing his powers and giving up on being Spidey entirely. The (debatably) best Superman movie also features him losing his powers. I don’t see your point.
Yes, Kylo coming into his own is Kylo putting the past behind him. His father is just one part of that, his grandfather is the other. At the end of TFA (and the beginning of TLJ) he is conflicted. As Snoke points out, killing his father didn’t resolve him.
Considering how there was much speculation that he’d become Vader v2 in this, this scene is incredibly important to establish that he’s forging his own path.
Why would you want to cut the bit with Kylo’s mask?
The name of this thread should probably reflect that there are TLJ spoilers within.
The consensus seems to be he looks weird/bad in the wide shots but great in the close ups. Don’t know how it works like that, but I agree.
They’ve been very hush hush about him in the new canon (if I’m not mistaken, his brief appearance in Battlefront II might be his only out of film appearance). But I don’t see the issue. He was clearly Snoke’s right hand guy like Vader was to the Emperor, and he could pretty much kill anyone who stands in his way (as is demonstrated with Hux).
Darth Vader eradicated an entire organization of trained force users. In his previous life, he was a war hero. Darth Vader had clout to lead the Galactic Empire should he chose to. What has Kyle Ren accomplished? I’m not saying he hasn’t proven himself worthy of the position he now holds in some off-screen way, but they’ve done nothing on screen to give him the position other than kill Snoke to impress a girl.
I never said they were equal in terms of accomplishments. But who knows what Kylo Ren has done, I imagine a fair amount. Either way, Snoke put him at his side, and his power is evident. I don’t see the issue.
Unrelated, “kill Snoke to impress a girl” is incredibly off base.
I liked the movie and will watch it over and over again, just like all other Star Wars films. I just think the progression of the story in the last two films has been actually worse than the prequel trilogy.
I think you need to watch both these films and the prequels again, and see how off base you are.
The prequels has bad dialog, dated CGI and was bogged down in irrelevant republic bureaucracy but the core arch of the main character was clear: gifted slave child falls in love with a royal, only to have his love be forbidden by those who raise him. Because of the secret nature of his love, he falls victim to dangerous promises to protect the life of the woman he loves. He reaches the pinnacle of his craft, only to fall from grace due to his insecurities. In the end, his mistakes and arrogance are what lead to her death. He is forced to live out his life a damages, shell of a man both physically and emotionally.
What is the story arch of Rey’s character thus far? Due to the condensed nature of these two films, she hasn’t been given any space to grow. The easiest way to accelerate character growth is to have them overcome a struggle or defeat. She hasn’t been defeated in any way. I don’t see what her character has left to do in this trilogy other than to kill Ben and as best I can tell, she could walk up to him and do that at any time should she chose.
I don’t know why I even have to explain this, but Rey is a scavenger from Jakku, a nobody who hopes to someday be somebody when her parents return. She learns it is time to move on and help the Resistance and train to learn, yet she finds doing this is not so easy as she finds these new heightened feelings confused and only exacerbating her unresolved desire to reconnect with her parents and fulfill whatever her destiny is supposed to be. But, what she comes to terms with is that her parents were nobody, and that’s okay, because it means she can create her own destiny and find her own family, in the Resistance.
As to what next, unlike the PT we don’t know where this is going (which is a good thing). Also, unlike the PT, her arc is believable, unlike the PT where first of all Anakin and Padme’s romance is a bit creepy because of their ages in TPM, and second of all is incredibly creepy and in no way believable because of Anakin’s portrayal in AOTC, and his eventual fall to the dark side is rushed and sloppily handled in ROTS.
As for Rey’s struggles, just watch the movies again. Why hasn’t Rey killed Ben yet? No idea. There definitely wasn’t a scene in TLJ where she tries to do just that yet can’t.
Novus_Opiate said:
He says the temptation came over him but for a brief moment. He wasn’t going to actually do it.Yeah I get that; what I don’t get is why it even came to that point to begin with? I mean we have to consider, it wasn’t simply a tempting thought, but those thoughts actually compelled Luke to pull out his lightsaber and ignite it! That’s so irrational of Luke. Sure, I bet killing Kylo is a thought would had crossed anyone’s mind if they learned Kylo’s taint of the darkside, but this is Luke here. I’d buy Luke was outside of Kylo’s hut, stewing back and forth of what to do and how to confront him; however again, it’s beyond me to think this temptation compelled Luke to pull out his lightsaber and stop himself from committing the murder at the last second.
dahmage said:
Luke’s final version and what is generally accepted as the true version has Luke go in to read kylo Ren’s mind. After seeing kylo rens darkness he has what he describes as a very brief moment of thinking that it would be better to kill him. And without thinking ignited his lightsaber and immediately, immediately regretted that decision.
No, again, it makes no sense. Luke in ROTJ was struggling between whether to kill Vader or redeem him, and yes, it came to that point where he was tempted to really finish Vader off, but he came to senses to not fall for the bait. So all these years later, that lesson he learned was for nothing…?I don’t get all these complaints that boil down to “Luke would never do that” (including disappearing in the first place) when we basically saw nothing that happened between the end of ROTJ and TFA/TLJ. People change, especially those that have suffered trauma. It’s the same complaint about Han that makes no sense either.
Sorry, but in movies you don’t change people’s characters off-screen unless it’s logical. Luke growing wiser and more confident between TESB and ROTJ is logical. Luke going from believing in his Nazi father to contemplating his nephews murder is not. Such a change of character needs to be explained more thoroughly. Given that so many don’t buy the way Luke behaves, I think it’s clear this part of the plot is underdeveloped.
There is no reason for Luke to believe in his Nazi father after ESB.
“But he felt the good in him!”
Yeah but didn’t he also feel the bad in Ben?
Again these criticisms make no sense. I’m sorry you have a problem with the fact that he hasn’t remained the same exact character for 30+ years and that he’s imperfect and relatable.
Also, while it is cool to see Jedi Master Luke Skywalker in his new Jedi Order days, I still don’t know how I feel about these flashbacks. We didn’t need to see Vader ‘killing Anakin’ when Ben told the story to Luke for it to work for the viewer.
I was personally surprised how little I minded that tradition breaking. I think it’s important for its Rashomon purposes.
Furthermore, why should the First Order follow Kylo Ren? I’m not sure what he has accomplished (unless I’ve missed something in the new EU).
They’ve been very hush hush about him in the new canon (if I’m not mistaken, his brief appearance in Battlefront II might be his only out of film appearance). But I don’t see the issue. He was clearly Snoke’s right hand guy like Vader was to the Emperor, and he could pretty much kill anyone who stands in his way (as is demonstrated with Hux).
I liked the movie and will watch it over and over again, just like all other Star Wars films. I just think the progression of the story in the last two films has been actually worse than the prequel trilogy.
I think you need to watch both these films and the prequels again, and see how off base you are.
In my mind Luke is another way in which the ST has made up for the problems of the ST. Much like Han (who has next to no depth in ROTJ), the Luke of ROTJ is simply not as interesting as the one in SW and ESB. He basically goes from fucking up big time at the end of one movies to being uber confident and wise at the start of the next. At no point does him turning to the dark side in ROTJ seem like a plausible possibility.
Huh.
Vader toying with Luke about Leia was really eating at his mind, which really sent Luke over the edge there. The only thing that stopped Luke was seeing both Vader’s chopped off hand and his cybernetic hand, realizing that Vader is still a human as just as much as Luke is, even underneath all that machinery; challenging Obi-Wan’s line of, “He’s more machine than man.”I know that moment (I know that film by heart). It’s great. But nothing that precedes it would lead you to believe that Luke might actually finish Vader off and turn.
But saying it’s not “plausible” seems like a disservice to how we saw Luke in ROTJ. Unless I’m misunderstanding you, it sounded as if you’re implying Luke struggled very little by the temptations of the dark side and effortlessly accepted the light all the way through, when in fact, the mere thought of Vader doing anything to Leia greatly sent him over the edge. All that rage was pure seduction of the dark side. If he had not struck Vader in the spot that he did, it’s fairly likely he would had turned.
Vader’s hand chopped off by Luke = Luke forming a connection of empathy, thus not going full dark side
Vader’s hand not chopped off = Luke most likely believing that getting rid of Vader will save Leia and his friends
You’re not quite getting what I mean. Luke shows no signs of temptation whatsoever up to that point. So, in storytelling terms, it’s hard to believe in that moment that Luke will go through with it.
I’m talking in pure terms of how Luke is ultimately perceived by the audience, not necessarily how the filmmakers wanted his story to go (my point being, they failed to make his temptation believable).
In my mind Luke is another way in which the ST has made up for the problems of the ST. Much like Han (who has next to no depth in ROTJ), the Luke of ROTJ is simply not as interesting as the one in SW and ESB. He basically goes from fucking up big time at the end of one movies to being uber confident and wise at the start of the next. At no point does him turning to the dark side in ROTJ seem like a plausible possibility.
Huh.
Vader toying with Luke about Leia was really eating at his mind, which really sent Luke over the edge there. The only thing that stopped Luke was seeing both Vader’s chopped off hand and his cybernetic hand, realizing that Vader is still a human as just as much as Luke is, even underneath all that machinery; challenging Obi-Wan’s line of, “He’s more machine than man.”
I know that moment (I know that film by heart). It’s great. But nothing that precedes it would lead you to believe that Luke might actually finish Vader off and turn.
Most of us going “Luke really wouldn’t do that!” just plays into the whole theme of Luke as a legend and Luke as just a man. The idea that the legends had a clear hero’s journey in which Luke became and continued to become better is just that, a pretty story. As much as Luke learned, and as good of a person he is at his core, he’s still fallible. No one of us can say we hadn’t repeated our mistakes, or had moments we thought we were better than. There’s nothing more human than having one fleeting moment come and pass, changing everything, and you can never take it back. Luke had the galaxy on his shoulders, and he felt he failed it.
“I can’t be what she needs me to be!”
That theme connects to Poe/Finn’s plot too; their efforts to forge their own heroic legends, with the Dreadnought, with their “disable the tracker” plan, all ended up being for nothing or at a heavy cost in the end. Instead of looking back to destroy or run from what you hate, for example your past or your regrets (in the case of Luke and Kylo) or in fighting your enemy (Poe), you live with it, and move on to protect what you have left - the future.
Idk, the more I think about it, the more I like it.
Yes exactly.
The fact that the all powerful and unceasingly righteous Luke of the old EU is now literally the Luke of “Legends” is pretty much the most perfect thing.
In my mind Luke is another way in which the ST has made up for the problems of the ST. Much like Han (who has next to no depth in ROTJ), the Luke of ROTJ is simply not as interesting as the one in SW and ESB. He basically goes from fucking up big time at the end of one movies to being uber confident and wise at the start of the next. At not point does him turning to the dark side in ROTJ seem like a plausible possibility.
I think the second and third version of Luke and Ben’s nighttime flashback scene are not different enough.
2nd version: Luke tried to kill him.
3rd version: He was only about to.
I really hate to say it, but I’m liking this movie less and less as time goes on.
What’s going on in Luke’s head is the key.
Hopefully this will not go ignored as I am going to make my best attempt to break down the film.
I think The Last Jedi, more so than any other film in the series, relies on parallel themes. First the theme of legends and how holding someone or yourself at a high standard only leads to disappointment and failure:
Kylo with Luke
Poe with Holdo
Rose with FinnOr surpassing you former idol:
“We are what they grow beyond” as Yoda said.
Finn with Phasma
Kylo with SnokeThe Luke complaints in my opinion are unrealistic. Do you think a human being is incapable of making a mistake like Luke did? The whole point of the film is that no one, even a legend, is incapable of mistakes. Someone as great as Obi Wan failed with Anakin. Not a huge stretch of the imagination to me.
There have been a lot of complaints about Snoke as well. He gets no more or less a back story than Palpatine in Return of the Jedi. He is a victim of his own arrogance. Kylo, who couldn’t win a fight with Snoke one on one defeats him the only way he can, by exploiting a character flaw. He thought he was so powerful and knew Kylo so well. He underestimated him because Snoke believed his own myth. He closed his eyes and looked into Kylo’s mind but couldn’t see what was happening right in front of him.
Poe was so disappointed and distrusting of Holdo he refused to hear her reasoning before calling her a traitor and committing mutiny because she was famous and he held her to an unrealistic standard.
Finn’s ambivalence to the cause is reflected through his willingness to run away at the beginning in the escape pod scene. Rose as a result feels betrayed by her “legend” image of “the Finn”. The hard truths of the moral ambivalence of Canto Bight and DJ’s betrayal lead into Finn’s defeat of Phasma and embrace of the name “rebel scum”. These the beginnings of his embrace of the rebel cause ending with his willingness to sacrifice his life to save everyone.
The next is destroying the past and moving forward:
Kylo’s mask
Rey’s parents
The Jedi Tree
Anakin’s LightsaberKylo destroys his mask to move away from Vader idolotry and become his own person.
Rey thought her parent’s identity would give her meaning or the fans thought being a Skywalker would give her a place in the Saga.
The destruction of the tree is a symbol of the end of the old Jedi order and a move away from the religious aspects of the black and white Jedi vs Sith. As Luke says why should a religion take ownership of something as universal as the force?
The final scene between Kylo and Luke is an act of pacifism. He has no intention of killing Kylo. Like Obi Wan in A New Hope he sacrifices his life against a failed apprentice to save the others and “the last jedi”.
The two suns aren’t merely a call back but an emotional parrallel. In A New Hope he was a farm boy ready for something greater and now he is a Jedi Master in the same place he was then.
I wrote this in a past post but I don’t think anyone payed attention. A detail I caught at the beginning of the film is when Rey hands Luke the lightsaber he’s wearing white robes. Luke then returns to his hut then puts them up in a box. We do not see him wearing this until near the end. It seems he was ready to die at the beginning of the film and Rey interrupted him.
Let me know if I missed anything.
Pretty good I think, except you mean Rey and Luke, not kylo and Luke.
I did see your comment about the robes and looked for it when I was next in the theater. But I felt like there was another time that Luke wore those robes. Didn’t he have them on when he was training Rey? Or some other scene in between.
When he goes to burn down the temple.
Hopefully this will not go ignored as I am going to make my best attempt to break down the film.
I think The Last Jedi, more so than any other film in the series, relies on parallel themes. First the theme of legends and how holding someone or yourself at a high standard only leads to disappointment and failure:
Kylo with Luke
Poe with Holdo
Rose with FinnOr surpassing you former idol:
“We are what they grow beyond” as Yoda said.
Finn with Phasma
Kylo with SnokeThe Luke complaints in my opinion are unrealistic. Do you think a human being is incapable of making a mistake like Luke did? The whole point of the film is that no one, even a legend, is incapable of mistakes. Someone as great as Obi Wan failed with Anakin. Not a huge stretch of the imagination to me.
There have been a lot of complaints about Snoke as well. He gets no more or less a back story than Palpatine in Return of the Jedi. He is a victim of his own arrogance. Kylo, who couldn’t win a fight with Snoke one on one defeats him the only way he can, by exploiting a character flaw. He thought he was so powerful and knew Kylo so well. He underestimated him because Snoke believed his own myth. He closed his eyes and looked into Kylo’s mind but couldn’t see what was happening right in front of him.
Poe was so disappointed and distrusting of Holdo he refused to hear her reasoning before calling her a traitor and committing mutiny because she was famous and he held her to an unrealistic standard.
Finn’s ambivalence to the cause is reflected through his willingness to run away at the beginning in the escape pod scene. Rose as a result feels betrayed by her “legend” image of “the Finn”. The hard truths of the moral ambivalence of Canto Bight and DJ’s betrayal lead into Finn’s defeat of Phasma and embrace of the name “rebel scum”. These the beginnings of his embrace of the rebel cause ending with his willingness to sacrifice his life to save everyone.
The next is destroying the past and moving forward:
Kylo’s mask
Rey’s parents
The Jedi Tree
Anakin’s LightsaberKylo destroys his mask to move away from Vader idolotry and become his own person.
Rey thought her parent’s identity would give her meaning or the fans thought being a Skywalker would give her a place in the Saga.
The destruction of the tree is a symbol of the end of the old Jedi order and a move away from the religious aspects of the black and white Jedi vs Sith. As Luke says why should a religion take ownership of something as universal as the force?
The final scene between Kylo and Luke is an act of pacifism. He has no intention of killing Kylo. Like Obi Wan in A New Hope he sacrifices his life against a failed apprentice to save the others and “the last jedi”.
The two suns aren’t merely a call back but an emotional parrallel. In A New Hope he was a farm boy ready for something greater and now he is a Jedi Master in the same place he was then.
I wrote this in a past post but I don’t think anyone payed attention. A detail I caught at the beginning of the film is when Rey hands Luke the lightsaber he’s wearing white robes. Luke then returns to his hut then puts them up in a box. We do not see him wearing this until near the end. It seems he was ready to die at the beginning of the film and Rey interrupted him.
Let me know if I missed anything.
I think you got it, nice write up.
Interesting tidbit (half mentioned in one of the ten TLJ threads) on RT…current audience score is 56%, but critic score is 93% (and top critic score is 96%).
The simple truth is, no matter what the fans and general audiences usually say, critics are, for the most part, a lot more trustworthy.
Some completely randomly chosen preliminary shots from ROTS (FYI the originals are 720 and mine are 1080, so the difference in resolution is not me being a wizard or anything).
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126575
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126576
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/126577
The Last Jedi: A movie made for stupid people with ADHD
by The Star Wars ReviewerLost somewhere in the middle of this interminably long, disjointed, boring, and often cringeworthy construction of a heretical film, there was an especially poignant - if unintentional - scene. Luke Skywalker, the now grayed and bearded old Jedi master, reunites with his long time trusted droid, R2-D2 aboard the Millenium Falcon. Forty years ago, it was this duo that first met in the original Star Wars film, when the droid’s iconic hologram message from Princess Leia, “Help me Obi-wan Kenobi, you’re my only hope!” captured Luke’s attention and sent him on his way, battling for freedom against the evil forces of the Galactic Empire.
During that first meeting, Luke was a young, fresh-faced hero. He was brash. He had his entire life ahead of him, and he wanted nothing more than to leave his middle-of-nowhere existence and find adventure and greater purpose in life. The beautiful Princess Leia’s message was urgent. Her desperation was a call for immediate action, to save her, to save everyone in the galaxy, and Luke was ready and able to accept that heroic task.
Fast forward many decades to this latest abomination of a Star Wars sequel, The Last Jedi, and what director Kathleen Kennedy gives us…erm, I mean director Rian Johnson… is yet another tired retread. More calls for nostalgia. A very visibly aged, yet distinguished, Mark Hamill (Luke) looks around the set of the ship, acknowledges he wants nothing to do with the plot that these writers have drawn up, and then watches the famous hologram before telling his sidekick, “Those were the good old days, huh? Is this what Star Wars has really become?”
No, of course Luke did not say those words, but the audience could hear him thinking them out loud anyway. In the middle of another bad movie, one with so much clutter and attention-distracting junk filled all over the screen, one that felt like an unfortunate mashup of Spaceballs meets Marvel Superheroes, this one scene was the only thing that felt like Star Wars really should feel like. It was vintage, plucked from another time, from a galaxy far far away, and inserted for reflection into a highly corporate toy and game commercial. To answer the pertinent question: yes Luke, like Sitting Bull doing racist stage performances for white men in Buffalo Bill Cody’s Wild West show, mockery for corporate money is indeed what you and Star Wars have become. Well done.
The Last Jedi starts out with perhaps the single most mustache-twirling villain of all mustache-twirling villains, General Hux (Domnall Gleeson), commanding a fleet of the generically evil First Order as it pursues Princess Leia (the late Carrie Fisher) and her band of freedom fighters across the galaxy. The audience is treated to space pursuit shots, followed by close ups of Hux sneering one liners into the camera. Then the audience gets to see more space pursuit shots, followed by more sneering one liners. General Hux honestly feels like a parody James Bond villain, taken straight out of an Austin Powers movie–inspiration The Last Jedi returns to over and over again.
The rest of the plot continues as follows:
After the evil villains engage in off-tone comedic buffoonery (wait, what??) reminiscent of Dark Helmet and Colonel Sandurz, the less than intimidating bad guys counter-intuitively manage to blow up the protagonists’ main ship, killing (General) Princess Leia in the process. But wait…what happens next? What happens next could best be described as Leia’s Space Jesus Moment, where her dead body floats through space and then magically comes back to life. She extends her arm forward and flies across the darkness, until she reaches the safety and oxygen of another friendly ship and its intensive care unit. She then sleeps in a coma until the end of the film.
After this bizarre and awful opening, the story cuts away to a remote island location, where Luke Skywalker is hiding like a coward from his enemies, abandoning his friends, and having visions of that one time where he tried to murder a young boy. Ha ha! But if that doesn’t sound like Star Wars to you, don’t worry, the good filmmakers at Disney have so much more! There are cute and cuddly CGI animals which multiply like rabbits all over the screen. You are sure to notice them, so make sure you look in the online catalogue and buy, buy, buy! There is also bathroom humor. And AT-STs. And Yoda, there has to be Yoda. Now Disney can merchandise him too!
Meanwhile, talented Jedi-in-training Rey (played competently enough by Daisy Ridley) has sought out Skywalker’s help and instruction at his remote medieval fortress. She needs to become stronger in The Force if she’s ever going to beat that Kylo Ren bad guy (Adam Driver) who she already beat in the last movie. Or maybe she needs Luke to come out of retirement and defeat CGI monster Supreme Leader Snoke, who dresses like Goldmember from another Austin Powers movie, and gets killed with little effort by…you guessed it…the bad guy Rey already defeated before.
So much for challenging our heroines, huh?
But difficult challenges would only serve as distractions from what really matters in these movies, and that’s all of the bullshit that has been intentionally designed to sell something to every demographic Disney can possibly imagine. The days of Star Wars invoking archetypes and its stories serving as communal bonding experiences that drew people together through common struggle are long since gone. Watching these new films is like watching a series of commercials while on an amusement park ride. There is some Star Wars-y stuff here, and some things that kind of resemble Star Wars over there. But even if you come across a scene you like, there is no time to let it breath or develop on its own. The car must quickly whisk you away, because after all, there are many more attractions that must be seen and many more products that must be sold.
Just beware of the warning signs: stay off this ride!
0 out of 4 stars
(this was personally the worst Star Wars movie I have ever seen)No respectable reviewer starts off by insulting people. And I think the ADHD bit is uncalled for.
Petition to change his username to StarWars"Reviewer".
I think what is throwing some people off is this movie goes against expectations. It was a huge gamble to go against the grain and go darker than ESB ever dreamed of being. The Rebels were on the run in ESB, but never did we see them decimated like this, literally down to one command ship and enough people to fit in the Falcon. And the last sliver of hope allies will come and save the day is met with radio silence. Things have never been this bad for the good guys.
Luke has felt the burden of being the hero of legend and a few seconds of fear and indecision has cost everyone dearly. We are light years from that night on Endor with our heroes surrounded by happy Ewoks.
I honestly don’t know where the next film will take us, because a lot of this felt like what should have been saved for it.
There is a power vacuum in the First Order now, and I doubt Kylo is going to be able to throw everyone who disagrees with him into a wall. Someone even worse than Snoke could be waiting in the wings seizing the opportunity to take control.
This is something I loved about TLJ, it didn’t take the middle movie safe route any more than ESB, and like you said, went even further. Can’t wait to see where Kylo goes from here.
I’m actually curious about that direction too. Of all the things TLJ made interesting for me, it was the way it subverted Kylo Ren’s possible redemption. I’m more annoyed that it was a little too hamfisted in how “failure is the best teacher,” as it feels like nobody won at the end.
That’s war, isn’t it?
Poe also understands BB8.
I think the biggest issue (not that it really bothers me but worth mentioning) is that Rey understands BB8 immediately. Luke needed an x-wing translator at first (and always? or did he not need it in ROTJ? I can’t remember) and Poe worked with BB8 a long time (presumably).
Of course Rey worked in an outpost/spaceport thingy so you can assume she’s been exposed to all sorts of different languages, which I guess is why it doesn’t really bother me anyway.
Not ROTJ, but TLJ.
After I posted that we went to see TLJ a second time and yeah that stuck out to me lol. Hadn’t really even thought much of it the first time.
Other way around for me, oddly enough.
Did anyone catch Joseph Gordon-Levitt in this? I didn’t, will look again tonight.
Ahh, my strong suspicion was correct! On the second viewing, I strongly suspected the this particular alien.
“Ayup, those are the shuttle parkers,” Slowen-Lo drawls as the police capture our heroes over a parking violation.
http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/17/star-wars-last-jedi-spoilers-mark-hamill-second-role-easter-eggs/
Same actually. Sounded like JGL doing a southern kinda accent.
I believe the only acceptable solution is to start again from scratch.
Maz did seem kind of shoehorned into this.
Could have been worse, I’m glad it was just a holocameo.
What a payoff ! What a script ! 😄 (it’s beautiful how Johnson trolled every one)
What a post!