Wonder Woman did the impressive thing of being a typical superhero movie that didn’t feel stale. Marvel recently has had to mess with the genre to seem fresh, but I like that Jenkins was able to breathe some life into it while playing it straight.
Pitt?
Nah it’s definitely me.
I was going to say it but due to my age I kind of felt it’d be hypocritical.
Nah you’re good. Also apologies to all the mature twelve-year-olds out there.
Sorry. I forgot that nobody in this forum has the sense of humor of a twelve-year-old.
Fixed.
I hope I ain’t crazy for finding the C3PO and R2 cameo to be stupid cause I groaned when that came on screen. It just felt so hamfisted.
What did you think of the Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo?
It wasn’t hamfisted… it was like the whole swine right up to the elbow.
This. Same as the blue milk. Felt like I was being treated like a two year old. No, it couldn’t have been just in the corner of a medium shot, it had to slowly zoom right in on it for a solid two seconds and just screamed “Remember thissss!?!?”
Totally disagree about that, the blue milk wasn’t what the camera was moving towards. I guarantee if you don’t know what blue milk is you wouldn’t even notice.
As for Evazan and Ponda, I agree, I thought that was the worst offender. I didn’t mind R2 and 3PO because of the brevity of the scene (and once you have Vader and Tarkin and Bail and Mothama and Leia in the movie, you kinda gotta but the droids in somewhere too).
I honestly don’t understand why warb got so upset. I’d imagine Frink feels the same way.
So I guess, accidental bully?
Great stuff guys.
I hope I ain’t crazy for finding the C3PO and R2 cameo to be stupid cause I groaned when that came on screen. It just felt so hamfisted.
What did you think of the Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo?
You’ve kinda convinced me, but I still would love to see a version of the “duel” with the green saber.
I totally get that.
And, like I said, you can keep the meaning behind it if you replace the saber throughout the two films (although this is very probably impossible).
A true random thought:
Anakin’s lightsaber is featured in each trilogy. Ironically, it has the least amount of screen time in the one trilogy that is all about Anakin.
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Followed.
Well I think he has the blue lightsaber to show how he was tooling with Kylo given that Kylo just destroyed that lightsaber the scene before and didn’t even notice it due to how angry he was.
That might be part of it, but I don’t think there’s really any question that it’s a symbolic thing. Rey offering Luke the lightsaber is an explicitly symbolic gesture, we know she’s not just gifting him his lightsaber back, she’s asking him to come back and ignite that “spark of hope.” She does it twice, and both times he refuses. When he does come back to “ignite the spark,” it only makes sense for him to have the lightsaber Rey offered him.
holy cow dom how did you write all of that from talking about a lightsaber hilt?
It’s just what’s in the movie. You wonder why Rian gave him the blue lightsaber, that’s it.
The Shape of Water
I hate it! It’s such a boring documentary on fluid dynamics.
That’s weird, I was listening to the new Keep It podcast and they kept saying it was about a woman who wanted to fuck a fish.
Sorry for the language but that’s a direct quote.
Thanks for letting me know to never listen to these folks.
Have you seen The Shape of Water?
Yep. It was great.
But this isn’t the thread for that.
Okay. I’ve seen it too and also really enjoyed it. I don’t think that description is too far off, though.
The Shape of Water
I hate it! It’s such a boring documentary on fluid dynamics.
That’s weird, I was listening to the new Keep It podcast and they kept saying it was about a woman who wanted to fuck a fish.
Sorry for the language but that’s a direct quote.
Thanks for letting me know to never listen to these folks.
Have you seen The Shape of Water?
To make this change work you have to replace Ankin’s saber with Luke’s throughout TFA and TLJ.
No you don’t. Why would you?
If the whole idea is that Luke’s legend as a Jedi grew in the years after ROTJ, most people would be familiar with his green lightsaber anyway (he’s had that for 3 decades compared to a couple years with the blue one), so it makes more sense (to me) for his projection to use his green one rather than Anakin’s blue one.
In TFA and TLJ, his blue lightsaber represents the lost myth of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi that they need to find and bring back.
At the end of TFA and the beginning of TLJ, Rey offers Luke the lightsaber, in essence asking for his help to come back and save the galaxy. Luke refuses by walking away. Later, when Rey says that she’s going to go to Ben and Luke says don’t, she offers the saber once again, and he says no. So she has no choice but to got to Ben.
During the course of Rey and Ben’s interaction, she gives him the saber (albeit in a non-traditional way). She thinks he’s the person who will save the galaxy. But when she learns he wants to destroy the Resistance still, she tries to take the saber back. She can’t it breaks in two, and it seems she’s stuck, hopeless.
But then Luke shows up! He’s finally accepted Rey’s offer, he’s come back to face down the First Order and save the Resistance. So what lightsaber should he be using? The one Rey offered him.
At the end, Luke is dead and Rey is left with the broken saber. She asks Leia, despairing, “how can we build a rebellion from this?” Leia takes her hand that’s holding the saber and says “We have everything we need.” The clear implication: they’ll rebuild the rebellion, obviously, but also the Jedi and (potentially) the saber too.
The Greatest Showman (2017) -
This movie was excruciating to sit through. Or, at least the trailer was, so I can’t imagine how something 60 times its length would be anything less than suicide inducing.
I don’t know whose idea it was to make this a musical. Or whose idea it was to make a fun movie about PT Barnum at all. The only thing worse than going to the circus is going to a movie about the circus. And the only thing worse than going to a movie about the circus is going to a movie about the circus where the characters sing and dance along to poorly produced auto-tuned pop music trash.
Ugh. D-
OHHHHHHHHHH. It appears I missed a joke. It’s a pretty good one too, but would have been 100X more apparent if you had edited my post that way in your post. But perhaps that is just me.
#metoo
This joke may be in bad taste.
I agree. This conversation is seriously fizzling out.
There are some movies where you never learn the protagonist’s name.
No Country is one of the best films to win that award.
To make this change work you have to replace Ankin’s saber with Luke’s throughout TFA and TLJ.
Before it went, the stuff i was reading was disgusting.
People ripping each others throats out again and again and the same people having the same arguments on different films. They were following eachothers posts. It was like a verbal riot. And it was a big crowd and it was spreading.
The whole forum there got oblitterared because of these idiots. Enough said.
Totally agree it’s a shame, the IMDb forums were interesting until they became toxic, couldn’t look at any film’s discussion without seeing someone being racist or sexist or homophobic or what else. Typical internet bigots ruining everything.
The fact a lot of new blockbusters are targeted by activists now also makes them undesirable to me
I agree! Equality shouldn’t be a political position and yet we’ve got people boycotting Star Wars because there’s a black stormtrooper and a woman uses a lightsaber. I mean Jesus guys, fandom should be fun and positive, I don’t want to hear about your garbage alt-right politics and how Disney has ruined SW with diversity. Take your white male rights activism elsewhere!
Stupid Watergate.
Exactly.
Everybody lay off the insults then.
To be honest that what i would hope…, I found out about this edit through internet news and various cast members commenting on it with tear drops again and again.
It is a sad state of affairs… I don’t know that is why i say the 70’s 80’s and 90’s did it right now i do think there has been a loss of direction relating to “real” people which is gone further than before because it is so “fake” in a way and even though older films were still “fake” they just were not as fake as it is now. It’s pretty much completely unrelatable for a normal person to connect in a normal way…
The motivation of this edit is the big question.
You’re right, the motivation of this edit isn’t actually to make it seem more “real” (scare quotes yours). It’s to make it more like the sausage fests of yesteryear.
But when those older blockbusters were made… I don’t recall hordes of women complaining about how the women are portayed. They were perhaps not that bothered. Men were not complaining about how the men were portrayed. Like wise nobody ever used to bring up these political issues when watching a film regarding gender and sexism. Because the people are characters they are not real.
Do you know any women? I can assure you not everyone has been pleased with the typical gender makeup of films.
But we now have even less real characters and people screaming about sexism and social issues feminism so on. Is this an American thing? Is this like an American political argument that is raging across social media or something? Agenda driven outcrys aimed at calling for all these different social groups to be represented in Media?
It’s all a bit odd right now… Looking back i can remember politics were not injected by outsiders in to entertainment like this.I think it is weird.
That’s funny, I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say “is this an American thing?” about something that wasn’t backward and stupid. God I wish it was an American thing.
Oh shit unless you mean is making a “defeminized” edit an American thing, in which case absolutely yes it is. It’s exactly the kind of dumb shit thing a sexist American would do, politicizing something that should actually just be a given (i.e. sizeable roles for women).
Worst line was the one about the “big ass door.”
See, that one didn’t bother me at all. I didn’t even notice it until someone here brought it up.
I did notice it and liked it.