A united Korea at the Olympics is just as symbolic as a flag. Intentions aside, gestures of peace shouldn’t be scoffed at in such a way. Pence is pathetic.
Not sure if the puppet face would look good in a CGI character, but worth a try. Really like the idea for Palpatine.
Agreed, particularly for the ESB hologram scene (though it’d be nice if he looked more ROTJ-like in ROTS, too, I suppose).
Wait, the ESB hologram, really? Ady already did that?
And he did a very good job with what he had available to him at the time, but it’s still rather stiff and photograph-y (though it’s my preferred version of the scene by far). I’m mostly just curious to see how well this would work in comparison.
It’s essentially the same thing.
Not sure if the puppet face would look good in a CGI character, but worth a try. Really like the idea for Palpatine.
Agreed, particularly for the ESB hologram scene (though it’d be nice if he looked more ROTJ-like in ROTS, too, I suppose).
Wait, the ESB hologram, really? Ady already did that?
https://twitter.com/vp/status/917074120084516865?lang=en
I left today’s Colts game because @POTUS and I will not dignify any event that disrespects our soldiers, our Flag, or our National Anthem.
Worthless piece of shit.
Swearing and nudity should not only be allowed on broadcast television, but encouraged.
EDIT: Mandated.
Nudity, yes. Swearing … only when it isn’t gratuitous.
I think you got that backwards.
I’ve never watched any Tarantino films, and his complicity in Weinstein’s assaults and defense of Polanski’s raping of a child make me not want to.
Yeah he’s probably not a great guy. But a lot of his movies are, and they are two separate things.
Vol. 1 is great and has some great silly over-the-top parts as mentioned.
Vol. 2 is really good.
Fixed
Blood fountains, Uma Thurman killing dozens of Samari, and Blood Fountains.
Damn, you’re making me want to watch Kill Bill again.
I want to get American citizenship and live in Chicago the rest of my life.
I lived several years in Chicago and I consider going back there, it’s a great city.
I really liked Boston too, but Chicago really stole my heart.
Boston is better.
On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.
I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.
You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob or use incredibly common place words that unfortunately hurt your ears.
So you’re saying that before I watch anything anywhere online, I am required to do research on it? And you’re also attacking my interest in tastefulness or decency? You might not care if words and actions are “incredibly common place” among your circle of friends and family, but don’t belittle me because I do care.
FWIW, I share your sensibilities. Even if “attacking” is too strong a word, judging/belittling is accurate. So many times I’ve been told I would love Veep and I assure them I don’t find it entertaining. And it’s not just there’s lots of swearing but the fact that underneath the swearing there’s very little that’s amusing or interesting. I agree swearing is used as a crutch by far too many.
The fact that something is incredibly commonplace doesn’t make it any more attractive. Whether there’s a time/place for it varies by taste. The fact that our society finds it increasingly acceptable is irrelevant to whether we personally like it, though it does mean we are subject to the media catering to those tastes.
At the end of the day, when anyone can put content out there, the responsibility falls on us to monitor content. Too many dangers in getting the government involved.
I’m not trying to belittle, it’s just crazy to me that one would want the government or whatever to force TV shows to adhere to their personal tastes. I go back to my chef using salt analogy. I don’t have a problem with people not liking bad words, you can judge us as improper or unattractive or whatever the fuck, I don’t care. But please don’t censor.
I’m not for censorship on streaming platforms, but a more accessible and informative content guide like HBO and the like do before their broadcasts would be appreciated. Sometimes a TVMA means swearing and violence, sometimes it means graphic sexual content, sometimes both - it would be nice to not have to guess what kind of MA content you’re about to see before you watch.
I don’t disagree with that.
Collipso said:
I don’t really know why would you expect it.I don’t see why you wouldn’t.
It wouldn’t make any sense. Also it’d be stupid.
You’re not expecting some stupid pandering fan service? That ‘we’re all fine’ quip in the trailer was only the beginning.
There’s a big difference between a putting in small quips or easter eggs and forcing your film to conclude at a completely unnatural endpoint only so fans can go “ha that’s cute.”
“by having the type of complicated messed-up characters who aren’t necessarily embraced on broadcast.”
Sounds like a character decision to me. I don’t know how you got where you got from that.
You’re right, they aren’t saying flat out that they’re doing it “just because,” there’s a difference between “with this medium we have different opportunities” and “with this medium there’s different opportunities so we need to force them in because they can.”
ALTHOUGH just because that’s what they’re saying doesn’t mean that’s actually the case with this show. These characters aren’t that complicated or messed up - the character that says the f word would basically feel right at home in a CBS sitcom. But that’s all way beside the point.
And streaming services aren’t broadcast, they are premium subscription services, like HBO. Could they/should they put a card up front that says “Language, Violence, Nudity, etc.” like HBO? Yeah sure, that’d be nice. But censorship is bullshit.
It seems to me that in 10 or more years streaming services are all that most people will use anymore. Back in the day, one could channel surf and not even bother wondering whether something was appropriate or why. I’m just feeling like the content produced by streaming services isn’t bothered about whether it’s mostly low-brow.
Broadcast shows have censorship because they’re over the air and freely accessible to anyone. Basic cable is kinda censored only because of advertisers. Premium cable is not advertised, it is a paid subscription, and it is not censored. Streaming services much more closely fit the latter.
Also, that’s not what low brow means. Streaming services like Netflix just happen to be very hands off and no rules, not because they “don’t care,” but rather because they care a lot about quality, and the best way to achieve that is to put faith in the creatives to make a quality show. To slap an arbitrary rule on them like “no swearing” wouldn’t be conducive to that kind of environment. And you’ll notice too that not every Netflix show has swearing in tits. The Marvel shows, for example, know to stay in the PG-13 lane. You don’t need laws to handle this kind of thing.
I’m saying I wish they didn’t choose to just because they can.
Yeah, that’s not how it works.
In an interview about Star Trek Discovery, the writers basically said it was. The show got a lot of flak for using “fuck” twice in the same episode, and the writers said it was freeing to not have censors saying they couldn’t do that.
Star Trek: Discovery might honestly be the only example I can think of of a show clearly just adding swears and nudity “because it can.” Usually, even if it is the case, you can’t really know, and therefore it’s not fair to assume intentions. (and that’s hardly the biggest issue with Discovery)
On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.
I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.
You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob or use incredibly common place words that unfortunately hurt your ears.
So you’re saying that before I watch anything anywhere online, I am required to do research on it? And you’re also attacking my interest in tastefulness or decency? You might not care if words and actions are “incredibly common place” among your circle of friends and family, but don’t belittle me because I do care.
You are not required. Just if it’s such a big deal to you, you can research beforehand. The information is out there, it just seems silly to complain. I’m not attacking you, I just think your opinion is silly.
I like that OTA TV broadcast content is censored to a degree. Creativity be damned. You don’t need to be vulgar or lewd to show creativity in your writing. Censorship does not inherently stifle creative thought. Some would even argue that lewdness and vulgarity shows a lack of creativity, rather than showing creative freedom.So basically you’re wishing that creatives tailor make shows to your personal specifications. Cool.
That is a strawman argument.
I am expressing my opinion. You don’t have to attack me because you don’t agree. I am saying I wish streamed shows had similar censorship rules as do broadcast shows. That is not “tailor made to my personal specifications.” Nor is it stifling to creatives to require them to assume children might be watching it, or else to have a This-is-why-children-shouldn’t-watch-it card or icon or blurb or whatever at the start of the show. Broadcast shows already do that.
Again, I’m not attacking you. Don’t be ridiculous. To me, what you’re suggesting is akin to me saying “there should be a rule that chefs can’t be allowed to use salt ever because it personally offends me.” And streaming services aren’t broadcast, they are premium subscription services, like HBO. Could they/should they put a card up front that says “Language, Violence, Nudity, etc.” like HBO? Yeah sure, that’d be nice. But censorship is bullshit.
On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
It’s not just for my daughter or my wife. It’s for me. I don’t appreciate the gratuitousness of some content being unnecessarily adult. I don’t like Veep swearing like it’s going out of style just because. I don’t like characters in a Star Trek show repeatedly saying “fuck” because it’s edgy and no one says they can’t. They are so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they don’t stop to think if they should.
I mean, they could at least put a MPAA rating info or whatever on the card for a show or movie.
You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob or use incredibly common place words that unfortunately hurt your ears.
I like that OTA TV broadcast content is censored to a degree. Creativity be damned. You don’t need to be vulgar or lewd to show creativity in your writing. Censorship does not inherently stifle creative thought. Some would even argue that lewdness and vulgarity shows a lack of creativity, rather than showing creative freedom.
So basically you’re wishing that creatives tailor make shows to your personal specifications. Cool.
On the subject of the regulation (or lack thereof) of streaming content, it continues to bother me that streaming services have very little in the way of censorship. I posted in the TV Shows thread about Altered Carbon and dahmage said he doesn’t have the time for yet another non-family friendly show. I agree.
I really wish there was some sort of censorship board for streaming content because I’m sick of professional content producers (like CBS All Access or Netflix) including swearing, violence, and nudity simply because they have no one telling them not to. I would also include HBO, but that particular ship has long since sailed.
Why censor and tie the hands of creatives just because you don’t like bad words? You can always use IMDb’s parents guide if you’re worried they’re going to show too much side boob.
I don’t think it’s politics at all.
See politics, definition 3a
It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.
I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.
YouTube is privately owned. Even still, is the FCC violating the first amendment? (my thought on that, by the way: maybe!). Anyway, isn’t this just about not allowing someone to monetize their video?
Agree on the maybe! re FCC. Re Logan, yes. But points to the shoddy fashion YT ignores presence of most bad content. Agree most of this better suited to Current Events, but 1st Amendment issue gets the issue closer to home in this thread.
I agree too that YT needs to be a lot better about that stuff.
And yeah, the first amendment stuff is suited for here, but I’m not really sure how far that discussion could go. It’s hard to say it’d be a violation based on the things I mentioned.
So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.
People don’t post current events in here?
In the past when there wasn’t a dedicated current events thread, sure.
Also, people don’t at times simply post articles in here and let the chips fall as far as followup conversation? Where did the article about the sexual harassment whatsit at Google (and the following conversation about corporate culture in Silicon Valley) get posted?
Usually when people post articles without comment, the political link is obvious. And this isn’t the first time someone has posted something in this thread and someone has questioned if it’s the right spot for it.
I don’t think it’s politics at all.
See politics, definition 3a
It’s not a governmental issue except to the extent hearings will be held, legislation considered, and YT wants to head that off.
I would think legislation attempts to control content on youtube would be a violation of the 1st amendment.
YouTube is privately owned. Even still, is the FCC violating the first amendment? (my thought on that, by the way: maybe!). Anyway, isn’t this just about not allowing someone to monetize their video?
Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.
But there isn’t a thread for general social/cultural issues. …for which such a thread could also include the subject of kneeling at football games. But we also talk about that in here.
It’s barely that, though. Logan Paul is a practically indefensible shitbag. YouTube cutting him off isn’t really a social/cultural issue, it’s just a thing that happened that made sense.
So, a current event. If you brought it in here and asked what people thought about legislation of some sort or, then okay, but you literally just posted the article.
Sure you can define it as YT politics. Just like you can say who’s going to win the Oscar is based on politics like “for your consideration” campaigns. But I don’t think it belongs in this thread.
Good article about Ron Howard coming on (with a cool bit about Lucas)
http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/09/ron-howard-solo-a-star-wars-story/
I don’t think it’s politics at all.
