The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.
Not all of them, but that one for sure.
Difference between personal preferences and a larger political agenda. If Brokeback had won people would’ve been saying that it won because of the gay agenda. Doesn’t make it true.
Oh, you probably didn’t recognize him because of the red arm
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Yep, was going to say so myself.
It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.
I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.
Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.
That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.
But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.
Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”
Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.
Well, I disagree that it supposedly was done to “not offend anyone.” I think it didn’t win because voters were actually offended.
They found the film offensive so they didn’t select it so as not to offend anyone else (because most Americans were offended by that movie at the time) but they also didn’t want to offend people that actually care about making artistic films about taboo subject matters so they selected Crash hoping that the racial angle would be enough to keep people happy. And then everyone was pissed off. This is why political correctness is an embarrassment; it isn’t just about being decent to people, it also extends to art. What people are offended by often isn’t rational and this was a perfect example of that.
The Academy is not a hive mind or even a committee. It’s individual people making individual choices. A person that didn’t vote for Brokeback Mountain likely isn’t caring about whether most Americans will be offended or not, they’re making their decision based on what they think. Famously at the time there were even voters proudly proclaiming that they were refusing to watch Brokeback because of the gay content.
The idea that every Oscar winner is chosen based solely on political agendas is one of my least favorite semi-conspiracy theories.
I didn’t know it was legal to still be born after phantom menace came out.
Yep. TPM was like a Children of Men type event. No one was supposed to be born after.
Well, I was born a few months after it came out. Are we the children of Satan, then?
Yessir.
It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.
I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.
Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.
That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.
But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.
Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”
Yes. It was all in an attempt to not offend anyone, but in the end everyone was pissed off.
Well, I disagree that it supposedly was done to “not offend anyone.” I think it didn’t win because voters were actually offended.
The purple hair is a blatant ignoring of the rules of the Star Wars universe that Lucas has carefully crafted over the course of 35 years.
Think about it. Lucas threw all sorts of weird stuff at us, including spherical space stations, green aliens with horns, 10ft tall slugs, 1000 degree swords and dozens of alien planets, but he never, EVER shoved humans with weird hair colors down our throats.
The Last Jedi payed homage to so many parts of Lucas’ original work, but they completely ruined it by having this one character with a very outstanding characteristic in marked contrast with everything else the series ever had up until then. That was for me the primary reason this character had to go completely. It had nothing to do with her gender, or the fact she didn’t tell Poe the plan (although that was pretty stupid). If she hadn’t had purple hair, I probably would have allowed her to stay in the film with her lightspeed suicide.
Wow. I mean… wow. This is so perfectly silly I’m almost not convinced its not parody.
It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.
I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.
Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.
That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.
But going with Crash was very calculated because it was a slightly controversial subject matter, but not as much as Brokeback Mountain.
Crash was like throwing a bone. “Yeah we don’t like the cowboy butt sex stuff but here’s a movie about racism that we can pretend is good!”
Anthony Daniels died in Spring 1978 and has been replaced by a Lucasfilm plant ever since.
That explains a lot.
It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.
I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.
Political correctness goes both ways. Giving Brokeback Mountain best picture would’ve pissed a lot of people off and offended the dumb masses so they decided to just give it to something else to avoid all that. It’s PC enough to be called PC in my mind.
That’s not what happened though. Many members of the Academy we’re legitimately homophobic and didn’t vote for it because of that.
It should’ve won best picture too but the Academy was being PC and was too scared to award it.
I don’t think you’re using “PC” the right way.
My plan worked perfectly. I returned my bar stools and got: a domino’s gift card I already spent
A new pair of shoes
Some pork chops to cook later
A frozen bag of mixed veggies and noodles that are just frozen not not processed that I can stir fry to my hearts content
Some cheezits.All on store credit from returning two stools I lost the receipt for. I don’t get the hate for Walmart as a store. The complaint that I always hear is "omg the checkout lines are so long " well of course they are everybody wants to shop here you’re basically complaining that everybody likes it more than they anticipate. And, maybe other stores are worse than mine (and one of my jobs is to monitor the lines and call people up from the floor to check when needed and I’m the mentor in that role so maybe I’ve started to rub off on my protégés heh) about this but the most I’ve ever had to wait in line is behind maybe 2 people? Which is the same as any other store you go to so I don’t understand why it’s specifically Walmart that only gets the hate for that. People just see the lanes not being used and think they are there because they are all supposed to be used at the same time lol.
Or maybe my Walmart is just better than some on this issue.
My main problem with Walmart is literally every time I’ve asked for help the people there have never been able to help me. But I don’t ask for help very often, so I guess I don’t really have a problem with going to Walmart.
I’m against SJWs as much as the next person
And if the next person isn’t?
Help me understand this.
He has. Am I missing something?
Oh really? Where was this guy in Rogue One?
Help me understand this.
To be fair, he said it’s not mostly womanless.
Still, the edit title alone is pretty telling.
Oh I see. Point basically still stands though.
The Phantom Menace.
I’m beginning to understand Frink’s pain.
Brokeback Mountain 2007
Wow. This movie emotionally destroyed me. Great chemistry between leads and Lee absolutely deserved his win for the Best Directing oscar.
Agreed, except for the fact that it actually came out in 2005.
A real gender-equalized edit would cut down the male parts. Pretty telling that a supposedly “equalized” edit is also “mostly womanless.”
Well it sounds like everyone’s going to get a crack at it in a few weeks, at least in the US. I’ve been seeing stuff about upcoming 70mm screenings for the 50th anniversary beginning in mid-May.
Would see again, even though the showing I went to was only a few months ago. An all time classic. (plus it was almost sold out and I got a bad seat).
Did the same thing with Lawrence two summers ago. Saw the DCP at the Coolidge in June, then found out they had a print in Somerville in September and couldn’t not go for it.
Saw that DCP at the Brattle, which is a theater I generally love though didn’t feel right for an epic of that scale. Been itching to see it on 70mm, missed a chance recently, hopefully I’ll get another soon.
I will never as long as I live understand the appeal of movie theaters.
Most people don’t hate being in the company of other people.
I can’t imagine why the disgusting slob type crowd would be filling a theater to see 2001 in 70mm.
Pretty much this, and true 70mm in a proper theater is something to behold.
Exactly. Not even remotely comparable to an at home blu-ray viewing, even if you have a 120" screen.
EDIT: And another point to the theatrical experience, I’ve been to seven films in theaters since 2015, all of which would be considered more popular to the average crowd, and I never ran into annoyances caused by others in the audience. Literally the only problems were caused by the actual theater.
I’ve been to theaters somewhere around a hundred times since 2015, and same for me. There’ve been a couple times with some rowdy audiences members, but nothing movie-ruining (and percentage-wise, not too bad considering).
Like I said, it’s the only fan edit I’ve seen where I’m 100% okay with seeing it before (or even instead of) the original.
Like I said, it’s a fan edit and it is worse than the original.
That’s not an objective fact. Have you seen it?
Didn’t say it was, was just repeating my opinion since you repeated yours.
And yes to the V1, no to V2 (which I am well aware is much improved, but I still feel quite confident in my opinion, though I am excited to watch the V2 sometime soon).
Anyone else watch the special features yet? I thought they were really good. Definitely enjoyed how they’ve actually gone a bit deeper into the meat and potatoes of this one. I only wish there was more, I mean, come on. They had a documentary crew on set everyday, it’d be great to see some more of that material. I’m not saying we necessarily needed LOTR appendices level content, but I mean yeah that amount would’ve been cool.
It would be nice if discussion could move more over to the actual discussion thread and into actual discussion, though of course there’s nothing wrong with people putting their reviews here (even if they’re novel length and posted months after they’ve seen the film).
Ideally everyone should have realized by now that my opinion of TLJ is the objectively correct one, yet here we are.
Like I said, it’s the only fan edit I’ve seen where I’m 100% okay with seeing it before (or even instead of) the original.
Like I said, it’s a fan edit and it is worse than the original.
Best thing about 2001 is you don’t need drugs to appreciate it. In my opinion anyway.
Or buy a blu-ray copy for six dollars and watch it in the comfort of your own home.
This is the single worst piece of advice I’ve heard anyone give.