DominicCobb

Oh no, I’m much more excited for Solo and I don’t think that’s weird.

Handman said:

TK-422 said:

A minor continuity error I noticed is when Poe is speaking with Holdo for the first time. She says “It’s commander right? Wasn’t it Leia’s last official act of command to demote you? For your Dreadnought plan?”, but that wasn’t Leia’s last official act of command. Right before the bridge explodes she orders The Raddus to stay out of range of the First Order’s barrage and to have maximum rear shields or something like that. I know it could be explained that Holdo just forgot, but the order that’s keeping everyone alive seems like a pretty massive point to forget.

That line was especially annoying. A good leader shouldn’t be passive aggressive.

It’s a great line. You’re supposed to be somewhat skeptical of Holdo at first. And Poe was trying to pull a fast one by introducing himself as commander.

Hardcore Legend said:

Jabba killing everyone

I am now picturing Jabba murdering a hallway full of rebels with a lightsaber.

ChainsawAsh said:

RogueLeader said:

I think some of you guys would enjoy reading The Secret History of Star Wars by Kaminski.

He was a poster here before he published the book if I remember correctly. Though I can’t recall his username or if he’s been around much since.

http://originaltrilogy.com/user/zombie84/id/2362 Hasn’t posted in a few years I don’t think.

Love that book, by the way.

Handman said:

Like, last year I had around 400 posts, despite being around for maybe three more years. Now I have nearly 3000 posts. Weird.

Somehow I’m at over 8,000. Which is weird because I remember crossing the 2,000 threshold sometime in 2016, but I’ve been here since 2011.

I think part of it is that PMs count towards post count ever since the late 2015 update.

The fact that the cast is so big is interesting to me, but in my mind it’s not something that makes me think the film will be good. To me it’s really a question of “will having this many characters hurt the film or not?”

The novelty isn’t nearly the same as it was for the first Avengers. There it was the excitement of seeing heroes team up for the first time. This is just… more heroes teaming up?

True.

MalàStrana said:

The PT didn’t have a master plan (that is even the main issue of the PT). The ST acts as if it had one, while having none, hence falling in the "many small issues that make quite a sum"side we were talking about a few messages ago.

So:

• PT: no master plan => should have had one !
• ST: no master plan => so why are you setting the movies as if there was one !

So Dom, things are exactly the opposite of what you describe.

I don’t know what you mean about “acting like it has one,” that doesn’t make any sense to me. As for the PT, it depends how define “master plan.” The films could certainly have stood to benefit if Lucas had planned things out more. But there was still a plan.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Nope, sounds perfectly normal.

Just odd that there’s this hype on the internet about “ten years in the making” as if we haven’t seen most of these characters crossover already.

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

Zachary VIII said:

DominicCobb said:

Not having these movies be tied down to some “master plan” is one of the smartest decisions they made. Worked for the OT, is working for the ST. PT tried the “master plan” and failed spectacularly.

Not that any of this has to do with Hal’s edit.

The OT had one consistent plot that was made from day one.

That’s not even a little bit true.

Yeah, but it sure as hell felt a lot more cohesive than the ST.

You say that as if it is more than just your personal opinion.

And if your naming things that went wrong with the PT, it’s overarching story plan is not one of them. It had a great overall story but was poorly executed.

What I’m saying is having an overarching plan didn’t make it any better, considering, like you said, it was poorly executed.

First of all, I stated my opinion and am tired of putting IMO before everything I say. I like to assume that everyone is decent enough to understand that others can disagree.

Secondly, an overarching plan can help to make for a more consistent, and cohesive overall story. If the execution is there, it doesn’t matter. But the ST does have good execution. So I believe it would be even made better with an overarching plan. I love the Last Jedi so I am coming at this from the same angle as you.

See for me, if you love The Last Jedi, then that’s all you need to understand the importance of not having an overarching plan. Films need to stand on their own without merely setting up sequels. Filmmakers need to be able to tell what they think is the best story without having to worry about fitting it into someone else’s outline. It’s not as if having an overarching plan would’ve made for a TLJ that’s basically the same except without weird things like Poe meeting Rey. TLJ would’ve been completely different if not for the approach they took.

darthrush said:

DominicCobb said:

Zachary VIII said:

DominicCobb said:

Not having these movies be tied down to some “master plan” is one of the smartest decisions they made. Worked for the OT, is working for the ST. PT tried the “master plan” and failed spectacularly.

Not that any of this has to do with Hal’s edit.

The OT had one consistent plot that was made from day one.

That’s not even a little bit true.

Yeah, but it sure as hell felt a lot more cohesive than the ST.

You say that as if it is more than just your personal opinion.

And if your naming things that went wrong with the PT, it’s overarching story plan is not one of them. It had a great overall story but was poorly executed.

What I’m saying is having an overarching plan didn’t make it any better, considering, like you said, it was poorly executed.

Zachary VIII said:

DominicCobb said:

Not having these movies be tied down to some “master plan” is one of the smartest decisions they made. Worked for the OT, is working for the ST. PT tried the “master plan” and failed spectacularly.

Not that any of this has to do with Hal’s edit.

The OT had one consistent plot that was made from day one.

That’s not even a little bit true.

Is it weird that I don’t particularly feel any more excited for Avengers: Infinity War than any given Marvel solo film?

DominicCobb said:

Frink needs people to constantly introduce themselves to Poe. He always responds the same way “I know.”

Not having these movies be tied down to some “master plan” is one of the smartest decisions they made. Worked for the OT, is working for the ST. PT tried the “master plan” and failed spectacularly.

Not that any of this has to do with Hal’s edit.

Tobar said:

Which is now non-canon and a really weird slip-up for the Story Group to make.

I believe, per the story group, novelizations are only semi-canon.

I will say it’s one of a few weird things that JJ messed up for future installments by cutting out of TFA.

Frink needs people to constantly introduce themselves to Poe. He always responds the same way “I know.”

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

I thought the coin gag was inventive and fun. It’s all subjective really.

It would have been better if it wasn’t set up by a bad drunk CGI creature out of the PT.

I don’t completely disagree, though I will say half the reason why I hated stuff like that in the prequels is because they served no purpose whatsoever, which isn’t the case here at least.

I have a silver Vader toy that I got when I was a kid and never opened, assuming it’d be worth a lot down the road. Somehow I doubt it is.

Don’t believe in ghosts. Don’t really understand that whole thing.

I will say my second cousin may or may not have been one of the cast members of the Syfy show Ghost Hunters at some point. Won’t say who because I don’t want someone to stalk and murder me.

moviefreakedmind said:

I would genuinely love to see a drama about the trial and execution of the imperial officers. It’ll never happen, but it’s the kind of creativity I’d love to see from the stand-alone films.

Seems like the kind of thing that could genuinely make it into a live action tv show at some point.

Possessed said:

I wasn’t being snarky, as I said I was genuinely curious as to some redeeming qualities of it, and I got some good answers. So yay

It’s probably safe to assume to that the stuff you didn’t like some people like too. I thought the coin gag was inventive and fun. It’s all subjective really.

But yeah stuff like the visuals is something I think people take for granted with these movies. The concept of a Canto Bight type place is cool and different for Star Wars, but I thought they definitely made it feel completely a piece of the universe (whereas you’d often get designs in the PT that veered a little too far into seeming like a different franchise).

Besides the obvious pros of Canto Bight from a story perspective, the aesthetics are fantastic. Great costume and production design.

One of these days I’m going to get FilmStruck.

That setting doesn’t undo all the other work.