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#1331520
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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idir_hh said:

I thought the score for the fleet’s arrival was a little too triumphant, as if they already won before the battle had even started, I think something like this would have worked better.
https://youtu.be/KYDeNziSwFc

I don’t have a problem with the music choice as is, but even considering your point, I think you took it too far. Not that what you picked doesn’t fit the scene, I just don’t think it’d fit the context of what’s going on. First of all, the battle has already started, but this track feels very much like “alright guys this is gonna be tough let’s get to work,” but we’ve already seen that portion of the battle. Second, it should be at least a little triumphant, Poe and the rest think they’ve just lost it all right before the fleet arrives - and it’s a surprisingly massive fleet that arrives - so it should be a bit of a victorious cheer moment.

That said…

idir_hh said:

I think it should be a mix of both, with the original track starting when the battle shifts to the Resistances favour.

If anything I’d argue for the opposite. A taste of victory when they arrive, then shift to a bit less chipper a mood because the battle’s not over yet.

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#1331519
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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smpearce1981 said:

specialk2121 said:

On an unrelated note, in the novelization, when Lando and the fleet arrive at Exegol there’s a moment where a bunch of different ships call in. “Mon Calamari fleet standing by. Ghost standing by.” Stuff like that. It’s got Inferno Squad, the Aces from resistance, Alphabet Squadron all calling in. Could be a cool way to expand on the final battle to show that the whole galaxy has united together.

Here I go (so genuine apologies in advance)

Considering some of the valid criticisms about the ST being reliant on ‘fan service’ this suggestion really accentuates that?

It’s not that it’s a bad idea, but I don’t see how it adds anything?

Personally, I wish they had done a scene like this in the film. The moment is nice as is, but there’s a big difference between seeing a million ships and actually seeing the faces of the people inside their cockpit. Having a roll call would have been a nice way to not only humanize the big money shot, but also give the moment a breather (basically nothing happens in the space battle from this point on), and really give this specific climax the sense that it is the saga’s climax.

That said, I don’t think there’s a feasible way to do this in a fan edit.

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#1331336
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Octorox said:

DominicCobb said:

Broom Kid said:

I think it’s also worth remembering some people will want the best possible presentation of the Prequels, and even though the D+ versions aren’t as different - they’re still a better transfer than the 2011 blus, correct?

I believe they are the same.

According to thedigitalbits TPM is a new scan which was also used for the 3D re-release (there’s still a lot of DNR in an attempt to blend the film elements and digital scenes) and AOTC and ROTS are based on the old 2K masters (they were shot in 1080p but mastered in 2K) but with additional upscaling and “film look” processing to bring them to 4K. The grades are also slightly different.

The Blu-Rays included in the new set are downscales of the new 4K master, not the same as the old blu-rays.

I’d be curious to see a comparison.

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#1331282
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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yotsuya said:

Some of us have no interest in 4k. No 4k TV’s, no 4k player. I still watch DVD’s quite often. I’m watching an upscale of the EU broadcast (widescreen SD) of the 97 SE TESB as I type.

So you don’t care about resolution, you have no problem watching a DVD of the 97 ESB SE. Fair enough. But are you really that interested in the 19SEs? The changes have only gotten worse since 97.

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#1331271
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Broom Kid said:

adywan said:

Because they are a better transfer than the crap 2011 versions

This exactly.

Granted, we’re talking about niches of niches here (people who prefer physical media, prefer that physical media to be blu-ray, and people who care what version of Star Wars it is they own on physical blu-ray) but just in case you’re a Star Wars fan who wants an official release to look as good as possible and isn’t interested in either Disney+ or piracy - these blu-rays are the answer.

I guess that’s fair. In my mind people are just going to watch Despecialized or the 4K restorations, and if they really care that much about the SE they’ll either get the 4K or use D+. But there is a small, incredibly niche audience in there that isn’t covered, I suppose.

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#1331262
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Bluto said:

oojason said:

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1242646906846826500 (with more comments in the link):-

‘Confirmed by @thedigitalbits that if you buy the Blu-ray-only set you get 11SE on Blu-ray, but if you buy the UHD / Blu-ray combo set you get the 19SE on Blu-ray. Because that’s not confusing to consumers.’
 

I can imagine it won’t clearly marked as such on the packaging either…
 

That’s very disappointing news. And a crazy decision from Disney! There is now no incentive for customers to buy the new Blu-Ray set, given it is the same as the previously released (and rereleased not long ago) 2011 versions.

For those in the same boat as me who don’t have any 4K equipment, the UHD set seems far too expensive as a means of getting the new Blu-Rays.

What a festering pile of pants.

I mean… why would anyone want the new Blu-rays?

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#1331134
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Star Wars (1977) - a General Random Thoughts thread
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ray_afraid said:

canofhumdingers said:

I saw Annie Hall was on amazon Prime so I thought I’d give it a watch. This dreck beat Star Wars as best picture in 1977? WTF!?

It was so awful I couldn’t finish it. Turned it off after about 20 or 30 mins. And that was being generous. I wanted to stop after about 10 mins but tried to give it the benefit of the doubt.

But geez. It’s basically a pathetic, miserable man being pathetic and miserable and making everyone around him miserable too. What was wrong with people that they would vote for this trash over Star Wars?

lolno.
Star Wars should have won, but.

Yeah.

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#1330928
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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joefavs said:

joefavs said:

Just watched TROS for the first time since December, and I enjoyed it a lot more this time! Adjusting my ranking:

  1. A New Hope
  2. The Empire Strikes Back
  3. The Last Jedi
  4. The Force Awakens
  5. Return of the Jedi
  6. Rogue One
  7. The Rise of Skywalker (was 9)
  8. Solo (was 7)
  9. The Phantom Menace (was 8)
  10. Attack of the Clones
  11. Revenge of the Sith

After watching TROS again in quarantine with my parents, I have decided this was a ridiculous ruling and I am reversing this decision. Back to the old order it goes!

Yeah, TROS isn’t better than Solo. But also, neither is RO.

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#1330721
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The Starlight Project Part 2: The Last Jedi
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NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, any issues with the power of Rey are secondary to the larger issue of her place in the story, which I think in TLJ becomes a bit usurped by Luke.

Here’s my question though, I also have an issue with that scene in the movie, but how is your change fixing that? Not saying it doesn’t I’d just be curious to hear your thought process.

I’d like to hear the specifics of your issue with it.

As for my thought process, as I said above, her powers are well established and clearly equal to Kylo’s according to the saber breaking scene. It may seem a bit paradoxical to cure the issue of Luke’s limelight stealing sacrifice with even more evidence of his awesomeness, but the important thing is not the miraculous acts but how they relate to the characters. Luke knows that the First Order will see his power and glory on full display with his illusion. He must also know that if he helps Rey save the Resistance through the lifting of the rocks, she will get the glory and legend for this act though he had a hand in it. I see it as a final gift to Rey, a vindication of her belief in the legend of the Jedi which he passes on to her in this moment. Luke may feel that he is undeserving of his legend, yet in the end he faces evil regardless. He sees the value in such an act, and now Rey has the opportunity to feel what he feels; generating a legend greater than her own acts to become a spark of hope.

My problems are basically, she’s the main character but in this sequence she is the B-plot to Luke’s story, but also I feel like this is where her arc for the film should be concluding, but we don’t really see her internal conflict. Basically, in my mind what they should have done is had Luke contact Rey and impart on her what Yoda imparted on him, that you can’t let failure get you down and all that, so Rey finds the strength within her to lift the rocks despite her failure her turn Kylo.

What you’re aiming for, I kinda feel like they already get that idea across just with him saying “I will not be the last Jedi” and then seeing Rey? Although I’m warming to it, now that I’m explaining my thoughts out loud. Depending on how your concept plays out it could make Rey’s rock lifting much more of it’s own moment beyond a cutaway from Luke’s speech. I can also see how Luke speaking to Rey would be a way of not just telling the audience that Luke is passing on his legacy to her, but Rey is being told as well. Hmm, it might work.

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#1330653
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The Starlight Project Part 2: The Last Jedi
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NeverarGreat said:

Yeah, any issues with the power of Rey are secondary to the larger issue of her place in the story, which I think in TLJ becomes a bit usurped by Luke.

Here’s my question though, I also have an issue with that scene in the movie, but how is your change fixing that? Not saying it doesn’t I’d just be curious to hear your thought process.

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#1330533
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I mean you could always make Rey’s saber purple. Part of me likes the idea that it’s the midway point between blue and red, but also thematically there isn’t really anything in the movie to set that up. Also the fact that Mace has a purple saber obscures that idea.

I really like the magenta color saber in Fallen Order:

It kinda reminds me of Gundam, which is a thing I’m not too familiar with but enjoyed as a kid simply because they had lightsabers haha.

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#1330416
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit
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NFBisms said:

I wonder if we can make “Palpatine just sort of forgets” a full on plot point. He’s old, he should be pretty senile now, right? His memory isnt what it used to be and he can’t quite recall what it is he wants to do. Which is why he starts quoting himself, why his plans for Rey are so inconsistent and can explain away whatever inconsistencies arise from editing to our preferences. I started this post as a joke but now I kind of want to do it.

Dementia Palpatine is the edit we deserve

NFB you need to make your own bonkers edit that just turns the film into a straight up camp experience.

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#1330410
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit
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NeverarGreat said:

‘Palpatine sort of forgot about Rey’

Yeah this is the unfortunate aspect, but it’s right there in the original too.

In my mind I have a solution, but I’m not confident I can accomplish it. Basically Palpatine tried to kill a lot of force sensitive babies. But honestly the available Kylo dialogue is pretty limited.

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#1330408
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit
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I’m taking a very JJ Abrams approach with it, which is basically do it quickly and don’t ask too many questions. Basically, the path of least resistance - cut out all discussion of Rey’s parents trying to protect her and any flashback that shows them loving her and standing up to Ochi. All we see and know is that Palpatine was looking for Rey, and when Ochi couldn’t find her he killed her parents. Does it make sense? Maybe not. But I don’t think it makes any less sense than what we get in the theatrical.

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#1330293
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (SPOILERS)
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nl0428 said:

Hal 9000 said:

Eh… doesn’t seem to fit snugly. I don’t mind if anyone wants to reach out, but I don’t see this as particularly valuable. I would like, though, to gently fold in a couple bars of Across the Stars.

Ben and Rey still had a love theme that John Williams wrote.

Did they?

Very much how Han and Leia had a love theme too which mashed their themes together.

Did it?

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#1330283
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit
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Hal 9000 said:

Did the DOTF draft really have her using purple lightning?

Yeah, similar sort of situation where she uses it a fit of rage (though it kills a Knight of Ren, not “Chewie”).

I’d read the “Don’t be afraid of who you are” line as accepting the mix of dark and light we all have or something like that.

That’s my hope, though I’d like to find some way to bring that point home more clearly. Perhaps a Kylo Ren line, but I haven’t found any lines from him that’d work to that point.

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#1330276
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Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit
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NeverarGreat said:

I think there is some value in giving Rey these darkside abilities, since Palpatine or not she is struggling with some dark emotions in TROS. The lightning especially feels very right for Rey, and I like it even more if it is unconnected with her heritage because it feels organic to her struggle with Kylo.

That’s how I feel yeah. One potential solution is taking a page from DOTF and making it purple lightning.

The Death Star door never really occurred to me. You could probably think of some explanation. What worries me more is Leia’s line “Never be afraid of who you are” and Rey’s talk with Luke. I’m still not sure if Leia’s line tips too much towards ‘She’s a Palpatine’ or if it’s vague enough to work, and the scene with Luke will have to be cut down drastically of course but I wonder what the effect will be with the remaining lines.