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#1349746
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

DominicCobb said:

idir_hh said:

DominicCobb said:

idir_hh said:

When fans give the story more thought than the writers.
Sigh

I mean that’s not really true though.

I’d say it’s true in relation to JJ Abrams’ writing.

Just because the final product ended up in a certain simplified way doesn’t thought wasn’t put into its development.

Crazy coincidence that all of JJ Abrams’ films turn out half baked despite the thought he puts in them and his public quotes that he prefers mysteries with no answers…

That’s the thing though, that’s the style of story he prefers so he cuts it down to that. Doesn’t mean the writers “put less though into it than the fans.” We’re talking about people who spent months working full-time jobs just working on the script. You can complain all you want about the end result but don’t make up stuff about the process.

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#1349743
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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idir_hh said:

DominicCobb said:

idir_hh said:

When fans give the story more thought than the writers.
Sigh

I mean that’s not really true though.

I’d say it’s true in relation to JJ Abrams’ writing.

Just because the final product ended up in a certain simplified way doesn’t thought wasn’t put into its development.

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#1349584
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Option E looks great, though I’m not completely sold on that lens flare. I do like the second little flare and I like the flare in the moment it passes the camera, but after that it’s not perfect for me. I think it’s just one of those subconscious things where you can just kinda tell it’s not quite right for whatever reason. I think lens flares are just a little pesky like that. Maybe an option F without it?

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#1349483
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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poppasketti said:

DominicCobb said:

There are ROTS soundtrack fan edits with clean versions of this (pulled from stuff like video games). I’ll send you a PM when I get the chance.

That would be amazing (a dream come true)! Thank you, and take your time!

Maybe I spoke too soon, looks like that section specifically is missing from the tracks I have. Never noticed that, damn.

Sorry to get your hopes up!

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#1349434
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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poppasketti said:

A recent mention of “Anthem of Evil” in this or Hal’s thread brought to mind something that has bothered me for a long time, which is that I can’t find the original Darth Plagueis them from ROTS. There’s plenty of tracks with the opera scene and Palpatine themes, but they don’t have my favorite part, which is the 7 notes that play as Palpatine is saying “Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord…to create life.”

I remember the theories and videos surrounding the similarity to Snoke’s theme, but why I can’t I find Plagueis’ them in the original instrumentation anywhere? It might be one of my favorite musical bits in of Star Wars, which may be an over-the-top feeling based simply on the frustration of not being able to find it!

Here’s a link with two pieces:
https://vimeo.com/422499934
pw: fanedit

The first is from ROTS with the center channel turned off (you can still hear Palpatine a bit as he’s mixed into all of the channels). The second is my recreation of the theme using the choir from Anthem of Evil. I didn’t have all of the notes, and pitch-shifting sounded only okay, so I tried to cover for this by adding some flutes in garage band. I don’t know if this would be useful to anyone, but I love this theme, and thought it would be cool to think about somewhere.

There are ROTS soundtrack fan edits with clean versions of this (pulled from stuff like video games). I’ll send you a PM when I get the chance.

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#1349315
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For TRoS Edits: Dialogue for the Knights of Ren! Come help!
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Truth be told I think you’re trying to accomplish way too much in the time allotted. Sometimes less is more, especially in Star Wars with cool looking masked characters like these. For example, the first moment on Pasaana, I think it’d be a lot more impactful if the only line was “I get his teeth.” I could go down the line but, while these are fun suggestions, every single moment would be better by keeping it short. When the Knights confront Ben in particular is really too much. Just one short sweet line like “still chasing the girl would work,” timed so as to not step on Williams’s music which is doing a lot for the scene on its own.

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#1349131
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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axlanian said:

Hal 9000 said:

I agree, I’ll see about boosting the volume for a couple at the start. And I don’t want to distort all of them, but some could go further. Lando’s voice sounds super clear so I think the voices don’t need to be so modulated that it’s harder to hear them. But yeah I’ll keep tinkering with this.

Would you mind if I mixed this part for you? I do audio (not a video guy like most of you),

Audio guy eh? Could you take a look at this and tell us if it’s improvable?

https://vimeo.com/415427718
pw: fanedit

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#1349130
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Feedback is good. I don’t think it’s quite there yet either but you can see how it’s shaping up. It’s a tricky thing and I’m trying to identify why it feels off to me too. Here’s my thoughts.

  • It doesn’t necessarily make sense, but I think after Lando’s line you should let the music have it’s moment before the chatter starts to pick up when the Star Wars theme has fully kicked in.
  • Either cut the chatter when Poe’s talking, or make it really soft and indistinguishable
  • Some of the call ins are too clear and need more distortion
  • Maybe a bit too much overlapping on the call ins?
  • The first "For Skywalker"s are nice but I think the second round is really pushing it. Tough because I know so many people are involved on that one and this was the real focus here but it just seems a bit repetitious for so many people to be saying that exact phrase.
  • I almost wonder if it’d be better if it was two "For Skywalker"s, then someone saying “Skywalker lives!” and then for the next one people said something else (“For Leia”? “For the Republic”? “For Kijimi”? something like that) or just nothing at all.
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#1348755
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> Discussion Thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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Broom Kid said:

Also, we don’t know if he’s actually playing Boba. So far as I can tell, that’s just an assumption literally everyone made but nobody’s got confirmed. The other assumption is that he could also be playing Captain Rex but it seems like nobody’s even really trying to guess at option C, which is that he’s only playing Rex, and Boba won’t be in the show at all.

I think the Boba assumption comes from what most people think was a Boba tease last season.

Either way, the idea that Disney is making any decisions based on a weird sense of antagonism doesn’t make any sense.

Some fans think Disney HATES the prequels, others think they HATE the OT.

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#1348585
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

So comparing this to the scene let’s be real we all know TROS was inspired by, look how much time eclipses between the >“we’ve lost” moment to the “everybody’s here!”. There’s this tension that’s slowly building as the heroes gather >together. It’d be so jarring otherwise (as we see in TROS).
https://youtu.be/xp2YlHPAyVI?t=62

I was so sure you were gonna link to RotJ! Besides, Endgame wouldn’t have been out when the script for RoS was finalized. The cavalry arriving to the rescue is just a classic trope.

It’s even in Trevorrow’s script.

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#1348516
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Just a technical note I don’t think it’s accurate to say it’s Kim’s music, he’s merely recreating the music from the trailer.

I would say, besides the music being disastrously out of place style wise, I agree with NFB, it’s too much. The main theme is just such a simple yet perfect piece of music to use for such an earnest moment without it veering into cheese.

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#1348510
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Knight of Kalee said:

I mentioned it already in the general thread, but besides obvious suggestions like Duel of the Fates or Across the stars, I have a less-known prequel theme in mind, one that is prominent in the second half of ROTS. It’s a Sith motif named “Mystery of the Sith” also known as the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations. It has early hints to the “Anthem of Evil” theme if you listen it closely.

TROS really should serve as a culmination of the saga in all its aspects, including the score.

Is that really a motif though? I can only think of one time it’s used in the film.

I will say too the film as is already features a few quotes of prequel music.

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#1348506
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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kewlfish said:

StarkillerAG said:

idir_hh said:

I think Anthem of Evil was used too sparingly in the film. I only really noticed it after a few watches, definitely needs to be emphasised throughout.

Yeah, that’s one of the examples of “great music” I was talking about. I think re-scoring the entire movie using old music is the wrong approach. Instead we should emphasize the music that’s already there, and bring the score more in line with Williams’s intentions.

Yeah I watched Sideways video a couple weeks ago and he explains how TROS really kind of missed the mark on the usually very well-thought out placement of Star Wars.

I mean that video kinda missed the mark in a few ways itself.

I think the most egregious examples of this are:

  • Yoda’s theme being used when Luke lifted the X-Wing

That makes perfect sense though, considering the scene it’s mirroring.

  • Luke and Leia’s theme used for Lando and Jannah (very weird)

The whole scene is weird.

  • Under-representation of Prequel music (my opinion not from Sideways’ video)

I’m not sure if that’s an issue exactly. It’s something that can be changed, but it doesn’t feel like a necessity.

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#1348474
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<em>Star Wars: The Clone Wars</em> To Return With New Episodes
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canofhumdingers said:

I just finished the first season of Rebels myself and it was pretty great. Honestly, I prefer it to Clone Wars, even if the best Clone Wars has to offer is better from a critical standpoint than anything rebels has to offer (so far). It’s just Rebels NAILS what I would want from an OT Star Wars cartoon. Like, (most of) this show could’ve been made in the 80’s just as easily as when it actually was.

I will say I’m really glad I finished season 7 of Clone Wars on D+ before getting too far into Rebels. I won’t spoil anything but those of you who’ve seen both can guess what confrontation I’m anticipating after the season 1 finale of Rebels, and I feel it will be even more powerful given the (great!) ending of Clone Wars…

Personally I like Rebels more than TCW so if you’re enjoying it now just wait.

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#1348348
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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thebluefrog said:

DominicCobb said:

2 did flow naturally from 1. I honestly don’t think there’s much in TROS of JJ’s ideas for 2 and 3. I think he got caught up in off-base fan complaints of both TFA and TLJ and he tried to rethink the whole trilogy in one film.

If you read the Artbook for Force Awakens, many ideas from it were used in ROS. For example, Rey sabering an imperial ship, returning to Palpatine’s throne room, the Death Star wreckage underwater, DIO as a variant of BB8’s design, etc.

Samples:
https://i.imgur.com/ioTT9gl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0oPFoji.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D25CcHS.jpg

I am plenty aware of the TFA art book. But those aren’t “JJ’s ideas for 2 and 3.” They are concepts floated for TFA. Hence my comment, “he tried to rethink the whole trilogy in one film.”