Dek Rollins

trusting Duracell again.

He was inspired

Spuffure said:

NOTE: I was told that the New Thread Thread (or the New The New Thread Thread Thread) was now irrelevant because of new management. I THINK that means we now do not need the thread to make new threads. I’m sorry if I got it wrong.

The New Thread Thread was never a necessity in the first place. It just allowed us to decide as a whole community whether people think it’s a good thread idea and primarily to make sure a new thread isn’t created unnecessarily when a similar/same thread exists already. I believe Frink saying it was irrelevant had to do with Jay (creator/owner/admin) giving a long-winded speech on how he doesn’t like that sort of thing even though that’s how this community has built itself.

On Topic:

I grew up with this thing, and it’s still in my house somewhere. (Not terribly weird or creepy, and from 1970, so I guess it might be against thread rules? I just think it’s odd and interesting.)

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Against-Law-Readers-Digest/dp/B0060RPESK

I don’t like mustard. I don’t use it on anything so no hypocrisy here. 😛

Water at meals is weird, coffee is nasty (the beverage not the person), and I don’t drink alcohol, nor do I plan on doing so. I forgot to mention that apple juice is also acceptable. Not a big fan of OJ.

Mrebo said:

but Shakira said

that Darth Plagiarist

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Possessed said:

I only drink skim milk, come at me bro

and i only drink almond milk.

I drink

-Skim milk
-Almond milk
-Soy milk

They all get the job done, which is to suspend my cereal and become a cereal flavored drink, or to add a little more flavor to oatmeal.

You don’t eat Oreos?

Also I’ve never heard of anyone not drinking milk with meals in general. Sometimes soda pop but the standard is whole or 2% milk. Mix in some chocolate milk when extra flavor is desired.

But that would still taste like milk. Skim milk doesn’t.

Skim milk is colored water pretending to be milk.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Barry Lyndon

I enjoyed it. Not Kubrick’s best, but a good film. Could’ve used another pass through the cutting room, though.

No. The pacing is perfect.

I honestly think it’s very nearly his best, but when you get into the top five-ish ones it gets hard to distinguish which is truly better.

Jeebus said:

6th graders are more vulgar than one would expect.

When I finished 5th grade, all the other kids at my school immediately started swearing excessively.

And I don’t even understand this conversation. Hasn’t the media accepted that teenagers can be vulgar sex maniacs since the '70s?

Not to mention the golden age of porn. I don’t think hardly anything has changed other than having mature rated TV shows.

paja said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I fucking hate Seth MacFarlane.

What’s wrong with MacFarlane?

He isn’t even remotely funny on most occasions.

Possessed said:

yes Dom you may join me in the woods.

*Ash

Possessed said:

Jesus fucking christ you guys are some whiny shits. 3 pages of fighting just because somebody fucking asked what a word they didn’t understand meant? And they weren’t even advocating it’s use either, they were simply asking what it meant since it had already been said. Holy shit. I should have just let you people think I died in the woods and never came back. Fuck this place.

Frink =/= “you people”

“People” implies that someone other than Frink was being a whiny asshat.

Jay said:

Tobar said:

As thread OP I’d kindly ask you to take this discussion to the appropriate thread. Thank you!

Sorry! I think we’re done.

Jay said:

Anyway, I got burned out on all the comic book movies right around Iron Man 2 (or was it 3?) and I have a lot of catching up to do. Do I need to watch everything in order to understand Avengers or are there any movies I can safely skip?

I would recommend starting from Winter Soldier and continuing on from there. Just about everything after that ties into Infinity War and it’s a solid run (save for Ultron).

I’ve seen Winter Soldier. I think I need to review the complete list and figure out where I left off.

If you didn’t see Doctor Strange I’d recommend that. As someone who hasn’t had an interest in the MCU, I actually enjoyed that movie. Though I have no idea if it’s required to understand his presence in the Avengers.

Morbid curiosity or someone else put it on?

DominicCobb said:

Dek Rollins said:

chyron8472 said:

Dek Rollins said:

That’s the biggest problem here. I’m annoyed that implications are ignored, but I’m more annoyed by “hey, why don’t we just redo a bunch of stuff the old show did?”

I feel like they’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t. If they do something similar, they get crap because it’s similar. If they do something different, they get crap because it’s different. Or it’s different in the wrong way, or it’s… whatever it is that people don’t know they want but know they don’t want that.

Voyager and Enterprise are too much like TNG. DS9 is too much like Babylon 5. The Kelvin Universe is too much like Star Wars but with an Apple-style aesthetic on the bridge. For that matter, Star Wars is now too much like Marvel or too much like A New Hope or Old Luke is not enough like Young Luke.

I feel like people too often enjoy not liking things. Whereas I’m saying people don’t have to like it but they don’t have to make the time to bitch about it either.

I love the original motion picture series.

Do you love all of them though?

I just think it’s weird that people like the bad stuff.

I love all of them but V, and even that I think is a great movie when you remove the stupid comedic filler (an edit I plan on making in the future).

And yes I know that “the bad stuff” is entirely subjective when it comes to something that isn’t objectively poorly made in every possible way, but IIRC there’s a pretty strong consensus that ENT isn’t very good.

chyron8472 said:

Dek Rollins said:

That’s the biggest problem here. I’m annoyed that implications are ignored, but I’m more annoyed by “hey, why don’t we just redo a bunch of stuff the old show did?”

I feel like they’re damned if they do and they’re damned if they don’t. If they do something similar, they get crap because it’s similar. If they do something different, they get crap because it’s different. Or it’s different in the wrong way, or it’s… whatever it is that people don’t know they want but know they don’t want that.

Voyager and Enterprise are too much like TNG. DS9 is too much like Babylon 5. The Kelvin Universe is too much like Star Wars but with an Apple-style aesthetic on the bridge. For that matter, Star Wars is now too much like Marvel or too much like A New Hope or Old Luke is not enough like Young Luke.

I feel like people too often enjoy not liking things. Whereas I’m saying people don’t have to like it but they don’t have to make the time to bitch about it either.

I love TOS TNG DS9 and the original motion picture series. I like some aspects of Voyager but overall it has less interesting characters outside of the Doctor. I actually wish I enjoyed it more, and I still watch it from time to time. The TNG movies are too far removed from the tone of the series as well as issues I have with the plots. I don’t like ENT because I think it’s dumb.

I don’t love to hate. I just think it’s weird that people like the bad stuff.

SilverWook said:

I still wish they would have done a Captain Pike series instead. The short lived Marvel comic set in that era was pretty darn good.

I would’ve also liked a Captain Sulu series. I think that was one of the ideas being thrown around right before they decided to start Enterprise.

There isn’t anything wrong with the Solo art. The chin looks a bit crooked, which is exemplified by the high contrast lighting painted on the side of his face, but other than that the facial renditions are practically flawless. I don’t see the problem with Woody’s face.

chyron8472 said:

Dek Rollins said:

chyron8472 said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

Dek Rollins said:

Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.

What did Kirk supposedly do first that no one else in the whole of Starfleet couldn’t have similarly done previously? By the time Kirk became a captain, Starfleet had been around for hundreds of years.

Enterprise doesn’t retcon Kirk doing anything first. And just because Kirk is routinely going where no man has gone before doesn’t mean no man has ever been anywhere Kirk ever goes.

Kirk apologist!

Well, seriously. It’s not like no one is going to go anywhere until Kirk gets around to doing it. TOS never says 1701 was the first ship to ever time travel; encounter the Romulans; or get the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites in the same room at the same time. I’m not sure what thunder Archer is supposed to have stolen from Kirk.

Did someone mention Romulans?

No one from Starfleet ever did see them in Enterprise. Heard their voice on audio-only comms, or saw their ships, yes. Saw the actual face of a Romulan? No. Administrator V’Las of the Vulcan High Command did see (one of) them, but no one else did and he was kicked out of the High Command not long before that organization was dissolved entirely.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kir'Shara_(episode)

The Earth-Romulan War (which takes place one year after Enterprise ended) happened before Kirk took command, and Kirk in TOS mentions no one had seen what they look like yet. But they are cousin-species to Vulcans, so it would make sense for a Vulcan not in Starfleet to once have seen them, especially if the Romulans are deviously trying to throw the Alpha Quadrant species into chaos from behind the scenes.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-Romulan_War

The Romulans were just a basic example because ‘encoutering Romulans’ was mentioned. I actually didn’t remember it happening specifically, I just assumed that’s what was being referred to since it was brought up.

And how about Spock being the first Vulcan to join Starfleet?

The USS Intrepid in TOS is entirely manned by Vulcans, so no. That’s not a thing.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(episode)

The USS Intrepid is not proof of the contrary. Spock didn’t just materialize when Kirk took the Enterprise. Spock was in Starfleet for at least eleven years prior to the start of TOS, according to The Cage/The Menagerie. That’s plenty of time for the Vulcan government to request a Federation science vessel for their use or whatever may be the case.

Also, T’Pol transferred her commission from the Vulcan fleet; she never enrolled at Starfleet Academy.

Dek Rollins said:

They weaseled out an excuse by having her not actually be an officer, but come on.

Perhaps I’m thinking of him being the first Vulcan First Officer, or something of the like, but even if my memory of Star Trek lore is a bit off, it’s still just as lazy to put another Vulcan First Officer on the bridge ‘just cause.’

That’s the biggest problem here. I’m annoyed that implications are ignored, but I’m more annoyed by “hey, why don’t we just redo a bunch of stuff the old show did?”

chyron8472 said:

Mrebo said:

chyron8472 said:

Dek Rollins said:

Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.

What did Kirk supposedly do first that no one else in the whole of Starfleet couldn’t have similarly done previously? By the time Kirk became a captain, Starfleet had been around for hundreds of years.

Enterprise doesn’t retcon Kirk doing anything first. And just because Kirk is routinely going where no man has gone before doesn’t mean no man has ever been anywhere Kirk ever goes.

Kirk apologist!

Well, seriously. It’s not like no one is going to go anywhere until Kirk gets around to doing it. TOS never says 1701 was the first ship to ever time travel; encounter the Romulans; or get the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites in the same room at the same time. I’m not sure what thunder Archer is supposed to have stolen from Kirk.

Did someone mention Romulans? The group of people that had actually never been seen by the Federation before Kirk? And how about Spock being the first Vulcan to join Starfleet? They weaseled out an excuse by having her not actually be an officer, but come on. I’m not saying that Kirk is some kind of god (what would God need with a starship?), but each series makes implications about what things the federation knows about and what is clearly newfound knowledge. Federation captains do have to report their missions y’know. They don’t just dillydally around and not tell command when they see the face of a Romulan for the first time in history.

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Dek Rollins said:

Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.

Dammit. If I had known that from the start, I would’ve watched this years ago and made it my #1 priority to rewatch it every year.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.hatdoctor.com/repairs.html&ved=2ahUKEwiBuOP-16LcAhVptlkKHbDSC3gQFjACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0sXJ6Vb_txTPClxwzQxOK-

Except that his saying that would fall flat on its face had he actually watched the show.

HAHAHAHAHA!

I watched the entire show.

Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.

I’ve only seen this once a long time ago and decided to watch it again. I really like this movie. It’s occasionally corny but it’s great. One thing that bothered me was the couple scenes of (not too egregious) nudity that show up. I mean, it was the early '70s, but it just makes it less comfortable to watch with other people. They’re short though, and it doesn’t lessen my liking of the film.

I still have to watch The Last Man On Earth, which I expect might be better based on popular opinion.