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#1254409
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All Things Star Trek
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I think The Voyage Home is special, but the idea that The Search for Spock isn’t fantastic is beyond me. The theft and Destruction of the Enterprise, the death of David, the outcome of Genesis. What’s not to love?

And as I’ve kept saying, The Final Frontier is a great movie underneath a bunch of silly baggage that can easily be edited out. Nothing is really missing from the film, it just needs to be trimmed of the out of place humor.

The Motion Picture is missing something, so even when the fat is trimmed it won’t be on quite the same level as the others.

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#1253607
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4K83 Released
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How can multi-project coordination happen if there’s only one project going on? How many new theatrical ROTJ projects have to pop up for you guys to buy it as the new standard? You can bet Harmy will use it since Hairy-hen and Schorman have updated their audio tracks, so I don’t get where all these other projects are supposed to come from for it to be worth changing foreign audio.

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#1252579
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4K versions vs. DEED
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deathstar1138 said:

There is a difference between a tint and a fade.

The LPP scans we had all have a blue tint to them.

This scan was different.

No, I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. The 4K83 print is red-faded because it is Eastman Kodak film stock. The physical film image on the print looks entirely red. Not brick-red, the fade isn’t that bad. But this happens to all Eastman prints because Eastman Kodak prints aren’t fade resistant.

The LPP scans are (to my knowledge) unfaded prints, as is the nature of most properly stored LPP film stock prints (given the namesake of the type of film, “Low-fade Positive Print”).

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#1252551
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4K versions vs. DEED
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deathstar1138 said:

There’s nothing faded about the print used for Return of the Jedi 4K. It is an answer print
that was 1 generation off from the negative, and has rarely ever been projected.

From the source:

99.9% of all frames used in this project are sourced from one original 1983 35mm
Eastman print. The remaining 175 frames were sourced from an alternate 35mm print.
All frames were scanned, cleaned, stabilized, and color corrected in 4k (anamorphic)
from 35mm prints. The primary print used is NOT a release print but a special screening
print struck directly from the original film negative in 1983. It is presented with
it’s original film grain intact which is two generations less than what a theatrical
release print would have and only one generation from the original negative.

It’s an Eastman Kodak print that was red-faded before correction. Raw frames were posted on the other forum. Being a clean screening print doesn’t have anything to do with color fade. Oft-projected theatrical prints are more commonly unfaded because of the LPP stock.

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#1252448
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4K versions vs. DEED
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4K83’s colors are only off in that they are clearly from a faded source (many highlights have lost color and are just pink). Otherwise it’s hard to say if the color correction is the best or worst. I personally prefer the more blue/less magenta look of the LPP scans (not like the excessive blue of the SW LPP scan), so I’m rendering my own ‘correction’ right now.