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#1330996
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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NeverarGreat said:

I’ve decided that ranking these movies as some abstract exercise in filmic quality is folly. So I’m going to numerically rank them in terms of how I felt when they actually released:

First, the Star Wars:

  1. Star Wars - A stone cold timeless classic which has never been topped
  2. The Empire Strikes Back - The best Star Wars sequel and a perfect coming-of-age tale
  3. Return of the Jedi - A worthy sendoff of the trilogy with some of the best optical effects ever made

Next, the Attempt at Recapturing Star Wars:

  1. The Phantom Menace - A fascinating if flawed space adventure with a good mix of practical and digital effects
  2. Attack of the Clones - The inflection point of the saga, whiffing on almost everything except the score
  3. Revenge of the Sith - Taking all the poor choices of Clones and doubling down, officially killing the prequels

Finally, the Never Coming Close to Star Wars:

  1. The Force Awakens - The opening crawl throws Star Wars in the garbage, and it manages to get worse from there
  2. The Last Jedi - A sophomoric postmodernist deconstruction of the garbage fire that is this IP
  3. The Rise of Skywalker - An attempt so pathetic that it truly becomes so-bad-it’s-good

So yes, the Episode numbers exactly correspond with the quality of the saga, simply because each misstep of the previous entries becomes part of the story and lessens it. The story of Star Wars is legitimately worse because of the prequels, and the 1-6 ‘Saga’ is trivialized and trashed by the ST. Attack of the Clones is better than The Last Jedi simply because TLJ never had a chance to be part of a meaningful story.

This is a perfect post.

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#1330792
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How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981?
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ray_afraid said:

Dek Rollins said:

It’s still the same film.

Fair enough. In this instance, even the title change is enough for me to distinguish one as a stand alone & the other as part of a series.

I don’t think that logic applies to every situation. I watch the original version as part of a trilogy. Not the 1981 version. Yes, watching it as a standalone is simpler if you watch the original, but neither version functions only within such an exclusive setting. It’s just a movie, and it can be viewed under whatever lens the viewer chooses. The '81 version doesn’t have a “to be continued” added at the end, a la Back to the Future. 😉

I think it’s worth noting that people usually don’t say this sort of thing about other films that have “director’s cuts” that only change a couple of scenes. The DC of Star Trek II isn’t a different movie, it’s just a better version of the same movie. In the case of Star Wars, we’re talking about a release that had literally zero editing or content changes throughout the film, other than the opening shot being recomposited with a subtitle added. Again, Star Trek II didn’t have the “II” in the opening title on some prints, but nobody would argue this changes the film fundamentally.

I guess it has more to do with nerdy semantics than anything. : )

Of course. Semantics can always be discussed.

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#1330736
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How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981?
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The only effects change made to the 1981 release is a recomposite of the flyover after the crawl, which obviously had to be done since they used a different starfield for the opening. Every other supposed effects change was made during the original release. Some of the '81 release was even done by splicing the new opening onto old prints. It’s still the same film.

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#1330723
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How do you feel about Star Wars being re-titled A New Hope in 1981?
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I would say every “special edition” version is a different film, but the 1981 release is not a different film just because a subtitle was added to the opening ruining the musical cue. It’s just a worse version of the same film.

I’m kind of indifferent to the ANH title being added, but the poor editing and the awful reformatting of the crawl itself means I can’t say it doesn’t hurt the film. I think it works better without ANH anyway. Since it is the first film, it seems reasonable for episodes to be ‘missing’ between SW and TESB.

In conversation I always call it Star Wars, and if someone wants me to clarify, I say “the first one” or “the original.”

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#1330497
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Wallace & Gromit in "The Wrong Trousers" - Original Audio Preservation
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d00mb0yz96 said:

Dek Rollins said:

The altered version is the only version available on DVD and Blu-ray in any country. That’s why I made this project.

Hi there, I just made an account to finally help in.
I do have the 1999 CBS/FOX US DVD release of the W&G trilogy and I can confirm that the original unaltered soundtrack for The Wrong Trousers is present in this release. Also to confirm, the fps is still slowed down from 25 to 29.976 on A Grand Day Out and Wrong Trousers, except for A Close Shave. These are the same masters used as the mid-90 US VHS releases by CBS/FOX.

I’m aware of that release. In the post you’re quoting, I was referring to all DVD and Blu-ray releases still available today.

I have ripped the DVD using MakeMKV, then brought the MKV to VirtualDub and exported the audio as a WAV, using FLAC. Please PM me if you want the original audio, DVD quality. I would like to see a BD version of The Wrong Trousers but has the original audio since you’re on to that, sadly I don’t have a BD copy of the W&G shorts yet. Since this is DVD quality audio, there shouldn’t be any buzzing or degradation such as audio in a TV broadcast, especially analog TV.

The TV broadcast doesn’t have any buzzing (it was a digital recording I believe, not analog), but I’d be interested in that audio regardless. Thanks for bringing this up, as I couldn’t find the 1999 DVD anywhere!

EDIT: PM sent

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#1326663
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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emanswfan said:

Fated-Dualist said:

Skywalker Saga Boxset - Disney Star Wars 4K is a ZERO Sum Game’:-

Star Wars on Disney 4K in a huge box? Is it worth it? Find out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TE5OTopl5A - on the RetroBlasting YouTube channel. (5 mins long)
 

Some decent information on the boxset - and a reminder of the quality and limitations on offer in it.
 

Nope, there is a lot of misinformation in that video not to mention how he’s so rude. The biggest one being is that all three movies of the ST are in native 4k.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLkNMKNOP3s

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#1325419
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All Things Star Trek
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Tobar said:

TNG is very formal, everyone is rather stiff because they have to show proper respect to rank. On DS9 it’s much more casual and to me, a lot more fun.

I find this kind of funny, because my problem with TNG is that the cast (other than Picard) is too casual. In TOS, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are best friends, but they’re also fellow officers, and they treat each other as such. The same goes for the lower ranks. TNG, it seems to me, did this a lot less.

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#1324334
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Star Wars The Lost Cut: Everything We Know About It
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Ronster said:

Yes I agree it is an assembly and it would have had for instance different options included within it.

My point about montross is that this was turned into a continuation of the Jabba scene first and unwritten if we are to trust the actor that originally played greedo.

Then a new version was filmed during principle photography that allowed for another option and a much better way to do the scene.

It is an assembly of options all on the table at once. You will have multiple takes of scenes also perhaps strung together it would not be like watching a film but multiple versions of scenes with options. At 13 reels it will have a lot of alternate angles and various dialogue changes and tonality deliverance of lines from actors.

It’s not that there is a massive amount more just that there are options to what is there with a bit of deleted scenes naturally most things are alternatives than a deleted scene in film.

I seriously doubt the rough cut included multiple different takes of the same scene in sequence. That’s not how a rough cut is assembled.

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#1324326
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Star Wars The Lost Cut: Everything We Know About It
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The differences between the two fourth drafts don’t have anything to do with the lost cut. Only footage that was shot has any importance, and we have the Greedo footage that was presumably used in the lost cut right there. The existence of Montross in earlier drafts isn’t any more significant than other early draft differences.

Sure, it’s interesting to look at stuff that didn’t make it to the shooting script, but that should be discussed in a ‘script differences’ thread in the OT discussion area.

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#1323055
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Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features
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jolennon said:

OMG
The Sword in the Stone and The Black Cauldron are the best restorations Disney have done in a really long time.
I hope the all Pre-CAPS movies get the same treatment when released in 4K

Black Cauldron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQhP9RMf33A

People need to stop sharing that “My moonization” channel around. His comparisons are awful. The colors are completely incorrect in every one of his videos.