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#71393
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<strong>The &quot;Dr. Gonzo&quot; Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71393/action/topic#71393
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Originally posted by: zion
lol

Just stuck in my ROTJ Dr. Gonzo DVDr and the easter egg song is "Darth Maul: He's My Friend and All" by Creative Engine

This song is really funny.


Dammit, I haven't checked out these easter eggs yet and now I really want to hear this Darth Maul song, but I'm at work and my dvds are at home

-Darth Simon
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#71397
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Is General Grievous really Maul??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71397/action/topic#71397
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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Plus being cut in half is an instant death and he could not be restored.


I would think that falling in lava would be, too. Just my opinion, of course. But I'm not gonna be the one to try it and find out.


Got this off of scholastic.coms page:

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How hot is lava?
Lava is extremely hot. Lava can reach temperatures of about 1,250° Celsius. The lava of the Hawaiian volcanoes reach these temperatures. Normal lava temperatures reach 750° Celsius. That is still much hotter than your oven is capable of reaching.


So i dunno, it might be possible to survive falling into that with only a couple first degree burns

Also Jimbo if Lucas decides to bring Maul back you dont think he wont be able to come up with some totally bogus..err, i mean logical reason on how he survived? I'm thinking something along these lines:

"After Darth Maul was cut in half the wounds were instantly cortorized thus elimintating the possiblity of bleeding to death. Seeing as his injury was only a small cut, Darth Maul was still in a perfect state of mind and able to cushin his landing with the force."

-Darth Simon
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#71359
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Forum Name Origins
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71359/action/topic#71359
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Darth Simon actually has a more complicated origin than you would think

Jedi are by far one of the most kick ass things in the world, right up there with ninjas
and everyone knows that evil > good hence Darth

now Simon, I started up a thief in this mud i played and named him Simon Templar from the movie "The Saint" (i know the tv series came first but ive only seen the movie). So seeing as my thief was a bad ass character, and im basically no longer playing mud i wanted him to live on in the hearts of his fans.

thus Darth Simon was born.
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#71304
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Is General Grievous really Maul??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71304/action/topic#71304
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
i doubt it. im referring to the interview in '99 in which GL said that Maul is dead. but who knows, it might just be some marketing ploy...


I havent seen the cartoons so i dont really know and couldnt form an opinion. I actually dont think maul will be brought back though it would be hot to see. And well lucas hasnt always been consistent in everything he says and does so anything is possible


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Originally posted by: jimbo
Absolutly not. Grevious's head is way to small. Plus being cut in half is an instant death and he could not be restored.


Like i said, havent seen clone wars yet so cant say. Ill give you the head arguement but i dont agree that being cut in half is instant death. I mean people have survived some crazy shit in real life, nails through their heads, steel rods through there heads, 2 by 4's through their abdomen. So why wouldnt getting cut in half be survivable in a fictional movie where they have technology that is more advanced then our current tech. Besides the heat from the light saber would pretty much cortorize most of the wounds, and he was cut at the waist so most of his organs would be untouched...I definatly think that its possible for him to have survived.

But then you have to ask, why he wasnt in episode II. I beleive the time line between the two movies was like 10 years or something so thats plenty of time for him to have healed and been in episode II. Unless Lucas is just keeping him as the big suprise in episode III, but i somehow doubt that one, i mean fans would want to see Darth Maul again and lucas wouldnt want to give fans something they want. plus it would just add too much additional stuff that needs to be explained and there's only so much time.

-Darth Simon
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#71173
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For Sale: Looking to thin out a collection
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71173/action/topic#71173
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Hey,

I’m looking to thin out my Star Wars collection. I have a fair amount of duplicate items and my collection takes up quite a bit of space so just looking to thin it out to mostly one of each figure/collectable. Its mostly action figures, and most of the figures i would be getting rid of are from the 90’s run of original trilogy toys. I do also have a few episode 1 figures ill probably get rid of. I’ve not yet gone through my collection to determine exactly what im selling (but i do have a general idea), but if anyone would possibly be interested I will post a list of what im looking to get rid of here and maybe prices or just leave it open for best offers (possibly as a link to a site, depending on how much stuff it is)

So if i get some interest ill start compiling a list of what i have. Or if you just want to inquire if i have a figure that you need/want thats cool too.

-Darth Simon

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#71169
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Lack of humanity in prequels?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71169/action/topic#71169
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Originally posted by: jimbo
More aliens makes more sense given how many races lived in a galaxy far far away. One question if the Empire were such human supremasists why is the reballion 90% human. Id think most alien races would love to kick the Empires ass more then most humans.


wow, it must look like im trying to go against everything jimbo says, im really not

actually i think that yeah, there probably should have been more aliens in the rebellion but they dont need to be cgi, and the movie works with out that so why go back and add them in, because the just end up looking out of place.

second, the PT takes you onto only a handful of planets, and it doesnt always make sense for there to be a wide variety of species on each of these planets. But where it does make sense, coruscant and tatooine are the main ones that come to mind, there were lots of various aliens in the background. But ive never said anything against using cgi characters as background characters that no one interacts with, its just when you start slowly replacing all the main characters with CGI just because you like CGi that it becomes a problem, and has the potential to take away from the movie where as special effects are supposed to add to the movie experience not take away from the actual story and characters

-Darth Simon
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#71162
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Thoughts of Han and R2D2
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71162/action/topic#71162
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Darth Simon<br
The miracles of modern technology have also advanced electronics and robots significantly enough that it would be easy to have an actual R2-D2 robot that does what they want it to. Yeah it would probably be expensive but a) im sure thats not really an issue for Lucas and b) how cool would an actual R2 be

(by actual R2 i dont mean a self aware droid with full AI but a working robot that is either controlled by a given computer instruction to perform a task or by radio control)

I think Lucas just has a hard-on for anything CGI and tries to use it where ever possible even if its not the best choice for a given situation. Im supprised he hired any actors at all and didnt do that prequals all CGI like Final Fantasy. Personally I feel that making R2 CGI will detract a lot from the characters personality

-Darth Simon


Digital effects look better. But it would be impossible with modern technology to create a digital Natalie Portman that can match the perfection of the real thing. Many things could not have been done with traditional effects. Yoda fighting for example try that with a puppet.



Yup, gotta love those digital effects, they look great. I mean we have Jabba in Episode IV, we have the whole Han's manipulation of space time to avoid greedo's laser blast.

They dont always look better, they dont always work for a scene, they dont always work for forming that emotional bond between viewer and the movie/character.

You honestly dont think that yoda fighting could have been done with the puppet? haha, I mean most of the time he was jus a green blur with a lightsaber anyway. And i really had no objection with making yoda a cgi character in the AOTC anyway. And I thought that fight was pretty bad ass...BUT, at the same time, I always looked at yoda as the powerful old sage. Like (forgive the bad analogy) Mr Miagi from the karate kid. He can just stand in one spot during a fight unwavering and lay down the law. I kind of agree with a post someone made in some other thread (dont know the thread or who said it) that yoda shouldnt have even needed to pull his lightsaber on the likes of dooku.

And a little off topic, but is it just me or did Yoda struggle just a bit too much with the falling pillar for someone as strong in the force as he is...i mean after all 'Size matters not'

-Darth Simon
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#71160
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Lack of humanity in prequels?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71160/action/topic#71160
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Puppet or digital its all fake its all the same. Digital does move better. Digital is best. George knows what he is doing.


Except puppets dont look fake because they are actual tangible objects. The Actors can interect better with it cause its actually there so their not guessing as to where it is. Sure they gave yoda more facial expressions in episode II (actually in the OT he had none) but he despite that as a puppet he still displayed emotion exceptionally well.

Digital is not necessarily the best. As i stated in the Han/R2 thread Lucas has an apparent hard on for anything and everything digital and its part of the reason so many people hate/were dissappointed with the prequals. He's trying to be ground breaking and do all this new and inventive stuff with cgi just like he did with the special effects in the OT, and while he's focusing on all the CGI crap he's not paying attention to the story as a whole.

I know people have said this to you before but its the story that makes the movie, not the special effects.


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Also the more aliens the better.


this isnt necessarily true, did you ever hear of overcrowding a scene? Too much of something, even if its a good thing (not saying all the digital aliens are) is bad.

-Darth Simon
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#71153
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Thoughts of Han and R2D2
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71153/action/topic#71153
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: R2
And your point being.....what?


That people won't have to waste time on getting some shitty puppet to work. Now we can do it in the computer. The miricles of modern technology.


The miracles of modern technology have also advanced electronics and robots significantly enough that it would be easy to have an actual R2-D2 robot that does what they want it to. Yeah it would probably be expensive but a) im sure thats not really an issue for Lucas and b) how cool would an actual R2 be

(by actual R2 i dont mean a self aware droid with full AI but a working robot that is either controlled by a given computer instruction to perform a task or by radio control)

I think Lucas just has a hard-on for anything CGI and tries to use it where ever possible even if its not the best choice for a given situation. Im supprised he hired any actors at all and didnt do that prequals all CGI like Final Fantasy. Personally I feel that making R2 CGI will detract a lot from the characters personality

-Darth Simon
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#71145
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Thoughts of Han and R2D2
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/71145/action/topic#71145
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
Actually he made a mistake when he tried to navigate the swamp on Dagobah and got swallowed and spat out by the big swamp-creature. Does anyone know why R2 didn't just use his jets that he now apparently has?


I dont really see this as a mistake, more of bad luck. Unless you mean when he started going the wrong way and luke pointed him in the direction, but getting eating isnt really a mistake on his part.

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Come to think of it on Endor R2 uses his saw to free them from the Ewok-made Wookie-trap and the group all fall to the ground, again including R2 who could have just flown to the ground.


If he used his jets he would have burned his companions, so he chose to just fall because he knew that he wouldnt be damaged by that small of a fall (i mean he's got to be built fairly rugged look at all he's been through, and he's designed to go into the back of a starship

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Silly little droid forgot that one day the Master would make it so that he always had booster jets in his legs.


That's simple, due to a rift in space time the prequals actually happened after the OT so he was upgraded.

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Also doesn't R2 keep bumping into walls throughout the OT films?


I dont remember this, he might have run into a wall or some other obstical but im not sure, i could be mistaken. I think it was more that he ran into things while they were filming it caus as R2 said he caused a lot of problems during production by not working properly

-Darth Simon
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#70908
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Anakin's ghost?!?!?!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70908/action/topic#70908
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Originally posted by: jimbo
I don't fully agree with this change but it does make sense in some ways. First of all most of his organs and all of his limbs and mechanical. From what I hear Revenge of the Sith will provide a better explaination of this change. Shaw there or Hayden both versions provide a message that you can be an evil nutcase and do the most dispicable things but if you redeme yourself in the last few minutes you can spend iternaty in peice. Putting Hayden there doesn't do anything for or against this very wrong message.


Wow, Jimbo did you read anything i wrote? Let me paraphrase for you.

Lucas is contradicting himself and the original movies by trying to explain his changes away as his original intention or as to keep continuity. First off if he wanted to keep continuity he should have written the prequals to fit in better with what already existed. second if his original intention was to have a younger Anakin ghost then why didnt he higher a younger actor at the time...oh im sorry, i forgot, the technology to have younger actors didnt exist at that time...im sorry, ill concede on that point

Now let me get some clarification on your point. Anakin was redeemed at the end of ROTJ even when played by the Mr. Shaw. You said that most of his organs and limbs were mechanical...so wouldnt it be able to live in peice if his current body is de-mutilated, hence him having all his hair and limbs (and i dont think ghosts even need organs anyway). Also if im reading this correctly, you disagree with this message. If thats the case I just want you to realize your supporting Lucas on something that you dont believe in. I guess a part of blindly worshiping Lucas is to also learn to contradict yourself at every turn just like he does.

Darth Simon
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#70856
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It's official...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70856/action/topic#70856
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I've actually heard a few things on the controversy over electronic voting, but it didnt have to deal with people being to dumb to use it. I've read good things about it from people with disabilities actually being able to vote secretly and not need 3 other people in the booth with them while they vote. Ive read that senior citizens are able to use it, so basically information contrary to the above article.

but on the other hand ive also heard complaints as far as the votes being more easily abled to be compromised or 'discarded'. And i know they had some problems with them in my area during the primarys but they said it was because the people officiating the voting didnt know what was going on and stuff was configured wrong and stuff like that, basically they attributed it to not being ready to implement it (not that the systems arent ready, but the people doing the implementing)


Darth Simon
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#70855
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Anakin's ghost?!?!?!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70855/action/topic#70855
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Enji
If Anakin shows up as a younger person, why the heck doesn't Yoda or Ben do the same thing? I don't believe ANYTHING they can tell us in Episode 3 can explain this (I don't know anything about it since I'm spoiler free, but...).

Well, I'm just glad I've got the OOT in widescreen on VHS.


Lucas explains why in the commentary. Anakin Skywalker died when he became Darth Vader. "The good man who was your father was destroyed" His spirit appears young because it was his last true form. Obi-Wan and Yoda were good there who lives so them as old people was there last true form. If you think about it this change makes sense. Logically if his spirit was the way he died in the end he would not have hair, skin, or limbs.



The change may make sense but the explanation actually doesnt. Let me explain.

1) If Anakin was dead when he turned to the dark side and became Vader then Anakin and Vader are 2 different people (because if Anakin=Vader than Vader should be dead as well)
by this reasoning, Anakin should have then been able to appear as a ghost throughout any point in the trilogy, seeing as you become a ghost when you die, and according to you Anakin has been dead since the end of Episode III.

2) So at the end of ROTJ when Vader saves Luke (well by your reasoning above Vader died at this point because he was no longer evil, just as Anakin died when he was no longer good). This gets complicated now, because on the one hand we have this 'new Anakin' that is good again, at which point his current body is the last form he had, so I guess he should have appeared as the hairless (though some of his hair wasnt removed until this release), skinless (pretty sure he had skin though), limbless (and you're assuming that all his limbs are gone) But how do we have this good Anakin, because Anakin died according to you, so he must have risen from the dead, or didnt come back at all which leaves us with Anakin now filling three roles (pre vader, vader, post vader - and these are all different people). Or maybe Anakin came back from the dead and borrowed vaders body to communicate to his son in person before he 'fully passed on'. though if he wasnt already fully passed on he was never dead to begin with. (I seriously dont think lucas was trying to imply the philisophical depth that this explanation can have, seeing as Im pretty sure he's at a diminished mental capacity and probably not capable of such thoughts)

3) As you implied, Lucas' explation is based on something that Obi-Wan said (the whole point of view thing) well now thats actually a good idea in principle to use that to explain it, but unfortunatly I dont think it works here because he contridicts it with the Whole "There is good in you father I have felt it" from Luke when he is first captured and the "Tell your sister you were right" from Vader/Anakin (who ever he is at this point, the guy has died so many times im loosing track) at the end of jedi. Well if Luke is in fact right (which we have to assume he is, because Vader should know if there was still some good left in him, and he's the one telling luke he's right) then the whole 'good man who was your father' being destroyed thing wouldnt have happened cause he wasnt fully destroyed, so he would have lived on in the same body that Vader did and aged along with Vader. At this point i can see that as a ghost his body is restored to its unmutilated form, which is basically how i looked at it and thats why he isnt exactly the hairless, skinless, limbless ghost that you think would be logical...Personally I find his current mutilated body being de-mutilated being more logical (plenty of tv shows/movies that involve ghosts and the afterlife do things such as give paralyzed people that ability to walk in their spirit form)

4) this one is more simple, and someone (dont remember who) mentioned it once before, but why does Anakin get rewarded with his youthful self in death for turning to the darkside and killing thousands of people.

5) Lucas defends many of his changes by saying thats how he wanted the movie originally just didnt have the technology to do so, well he did have the technology to higher a YOUNGER actor to play Anakin's Ghost if thats what he wanted, then the change of actors now wouldnt be as big of a deal.

6)He also uses the continuity defense quite often. Well news flash, back in 1999 before Episode I came out you had the following existing trilogy, non existing prequals. So why didnt he just make the prequals fit in with the movies that already existed, If he really did have this whole story laid out to flow from the current prequals to the original trilogy why didnt the original story follow the flow it does now?

7) not related to the ghost, but he's also changing the movie to appeal to the current generation or to be more pc, WHY???? I dont know where I read it, but I read someones opinion that Lucas is afraid of his movies...he's afraid at how big of a success they became and doesnt have enough faith in what he originally created to believe that it will stand the test of time, so he's trying to modernize thinking it will extend its life. Honestly i think, as im sure most people on this bored due, that its actually shortening the life of the movies. They are becomming just another cgi filled special effects fest. When it comes down to it, I kind of pity George Lucas if he thinks this little of his work.

***LESS CONFUSING SUMMARY***
Basically, Lucas change/explanation brings up more (at least in my opinion) unanswered questions that are also more prominent than the fact that Sebastian Shaw played the ghost of Anakin Skywalker.

Darth Simon
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#70472
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HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70472/action/topic#70472
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I really havent been following the whole Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD thing, I have read a few things and my impression was Blu-Ray is ahead of HD-DVD as far as being released, but while I understand that this forum is mainly focused on how the technology relates to movies and their releases you have to realize that with technology like this its ability to take hold of the market is going to be based on more than just its video quality.

For instance, Jimbo keeps repeating that even though HD-DVD can store less data (roughly 30 gigs vs 50) that due to its encoding it can hold more/better quality video. While this may be true I have to ask/offer, doesnt the encoding in and of its self hurt the quality...Im honestly not as up on the video codecs (or even audio ones for that matter) as id like to be, so i dont know, is MPEG4 a lossless compression?

But even still, this technology spans more than just movies. People who are more in touch with the pure computer side of this technology as I am will much prefer a 50 gig disc compared to a 30 gig disc. Albeit the price point has to be comparable. Im sure most of this information is known already, but the point im trying to make is that i think blu-ray is a more versitile format.

Im not backing or making a claim that Blu-Ray will win over HD-DVD just that in my opinion its more versitile.

Darth Simon

ps..mainly to jimbo, but also cause i didnt see it in this thread, Blu-Ray will be supporting MPEG4 according to their site http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#1.8 sure its their PR guys saying it, but its kinda hard to lie about that kind of stuff without it biting you in the arse
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#70468
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Original Soundtrack
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/70468/action/topic#70468
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Hi, Just joined up, love the original movies and the more lucas changes it the more detached im getting we need the originals on dvd!!!

which brings me to my point, I was reading some of the information on various release versions of the trilogy on this page http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm
and it was talking about the sound track being changed in about '82. Well the main change im referring to is with c-3po in the death star and i cant remember the line exactly but its along the lines of 'the tractor beem is powered at 7 locations, a power loss at one of them will result in it being disabled' (yeah i butchered the line, sorry ) but the point being...in the original theatrical releases, is this line there? Ive always remembered the line being in the movie, even on the faces edition, which is the first edition ive owned on tape (so sad isnt it) and ive mainly only seen that version and the one shown on tv.

So basically 2 questions here.

1) What version do i have to get/watch for it to be completely like the original theatrical release?
2) Is there any dvd 'restorations' of this version available or in the works?

Darth Simon