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#1155156
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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MalàStrana said:

Hal 9000 said:

Well, the necklace has no payoff whatsoever in Episode III because my handling of it does not allow a place for either of its two appearances there. I’m open to others’ opinions though, given this.

I agree but there is a payoff for the necklace in my beloved Clone Wars microseries (when Anakin is knighted) so I would love to see it reinstalled 😄

(by the way whatever you add or remove could you keep a log of the number of frames added/removed so it would be more simple to resync the subtitles ? I will do it in both languages, my pleasure as usual !).

Yes! There’s the microseries payoff. I think that’s worth it haha 😛 I’m sorry I’m so useless tbh, I don’t know anything about editing and I can only speak Portuguese and English 😕

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#1155081
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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I definitely preferred the sound mix in TLJ than in TFA. Not even a question. Visual effects too, but the one scene where Luke is fishing (where he jumps and grabs that huge stick over the water) looked pretty fake to me. And of course the cgi horses looked very bad to me too.

Lightsabers looked too much like they were actually there - reminded me of a lightsaber toy or replica in some shots. TFA’s sabers were definitely better for me. And the screen wipes were either out of place or too fast.

Overall I really loved how the movie looked and sounded though, a lot more than TFA.

Regarding lightsabers however, TFA > TLJ.

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#1155046
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Released)
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No necklace? Ahh! Hahahahaha. To be honest though, I’d vote for the necklace thing to be reinstated only in Episode I, mostly because I’m still not sure about the flow of the scene without it. But I’m sure this was well thought out already.

Regarding Grievous-Anakin interactions, I think Dom edited their scene making the joke Anakin makes quite funnier than its original version. If it interests you, you could check it out on his thread and see if he approves.

Edit: is the crawl content going to change or just the looks? And are they going to match Adywan’s Revisited’s crawls?

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#1154853
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Life Advice Thread
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I do not know and can never know how you feel, Mrebo. And unfortunately I don’t have any advice for you, I am truly sorry. I’m just coming here to say that really, if you want to talk to someone I am here and would be glad to help you with anything that you could need that’d be within my reach.

Again, I’m so so sorry.

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#1154276
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi - The Dark Cut (* unfinished project *)
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darthrush said:

Collipso said:

I really liked this idea you previously had, darthrush. I think removing canto bight completely might hurt the film.

I’m thinking of doing this idea. What reasons do you have for why removing Canto Bight entirely would have a negative effect on the movie? I’m torn between these two options.

Besides the runtime, it gives a better sense of time and space to the rest of the movie, and develops Rose and her relationship with Finn. Plus just for the fun of it. What really hurt Canto Bight in the final cut is that it kills the pacing and the oversilliness, and if you stick to your original idea, you’d be dealing with both without hurting too much of the movie.

Edit: and the runtime.

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#1154274
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STAR WARS EPISODE I: Dawn of War (Old Version) (* unfinished project *)
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snooker said:

Hey guys.

I’m going to put this project on hold for the foreseeable future. I set my own expectations impossibly high for what position I am in in life. Do know that the spark of hope still remains and I will complete my extreme re-edit of The Phantom Menace one day, however that day is not soon.

A few clips of unfinished work will be uploaded in the coming hours so that I may get some closure in what relatively little work I have done.

Thank you all so much.

https://vimeo.com/249448162 password: final

😦

I was looking forward to your edit. That’s a shame. But no one should know your priorities better than yourself. Good luck out there 😉

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#1154107
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

It’s only better than TPM for me.

Every time I start to like you again…

HAHAHA I knew you’d read it and say something like that! In fact I only said it because of you.

In all honesty, I watched TFA recently and it pleased me more than any of the prequels ever could, but not as much as any of the OT, TLJ or R1. I’d say it’s above RotS, but not by a margin as big as yours I don’t think.

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#1154087
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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yotsuya said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

NeverarGreat said:

Random refrigerator thought, but when did the Resistance come into possession of a bombing fleet? Was it before or after the attack on Starkiller Base, where the entire mission was to hit a large, stationary target with as many bombs as possible? Leia refers to the bombing fleet as if it’s a treasured part of the Resistance, and there are dedicated Resistance crews and everything.

For that matter, when did they get that cruiser and those support ships and their crews? Did they just happen to arrive right after the events of TFA? It’s heavily implied that all of the Resistance attack ships are devoted to the Starkiller assault, and they bemoan that they have no chance without the Republic fleet (which is comprised mostly of capital ships). If they had a massive cruiser the whole time, the Leia would surely have used it to match FO forces at the Takodana battle instead of arriving later in a dinky transport.

I wish I could turn my brain off and enjoy this movie, but it feels like I’m supposed to question these things based on TLJ’s technical plot that draws attention to just this sort of thing.

It’s like the reason people want to know who Snoke is. It’s not because Snoke must be so important in his own right. We want to know how the galaxy-wide celebrations (is that heretical to say here?) at the end of ROTJ gave way to…a new Empire(?) with limitless resources. We assume it’s because of Snoke. And so we want to know how it happened.

Who was the Emperor? How did the Empire get how it was in the OT? The OT didn’t answer these questions and people aren’t complaining about that now.

I don’t think it’s fair to compare those two situations because there were no previously established realities for the situation in the galaxy to challenge. The way it went with TFA is as if TPM was the last Star Wars movie everyone saw and then they make ANH. People would go “wtf? what happened to the republic? to the separatists? what’s this empire?”

We had a established world: the empire has fallen, republic established. TFA tried to push the ANH situation down our throats but the world building wasn’t good enough - they didn’t give us any reasons or didn’t explain what is the first order or what was the republic or how we went from RotJ to the same ANH scenario. That’s what the movie doesn’t explain. It’s not about giving Snoke’s backstory I don’t think (even though that would be interesting once you realise he’s a sith and by the end of RotJ the sith were extinct), but it’s about what happened to the galaxy to get to the point where it was in TFA.

edit: Sorry, this was a really hard post to understand, sorry if it made no sense, it was badly written and not well thought out.

I think, again, that the problem with TLJ lies with TFA. It isn’t as good as some like to think. The crawl is one of the worst offenders. It doesn’t lay out the situation in the galaxy like the others. It just fails and then the movie fails in other ways and ends in a bad spot. I still consider TFA to be the worst of the films to date. It is the only one I have never truly enjoyed.

I’ve been criticizing TFA since day 1. Even TLJ Luke is TFA’s fault to an extent. It’s only better than TPM for me.

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#1154084
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.

I don’t know why you think Jake’s and Natalie’s performances in TPM, just to pick two, are their faults due to their interpretations, rather than his failings as a director. He doesn’t like actors. He likes computers. And he’s spent most of his career trying to work less with the actors and more with the computers.

Lloyd was 8 or 7 and Portman was like 16. If you leave them acting by themselves with little to no guidance with an awful script you’ll most certainly get bad acting in response. Lucas’ script didn’t suit Lucas’ style as director.

In short, yes, it’s his fault that they acted poorly, but that’s always been his style, his way of directing. It definitely doesn’t suit child actors. Fisher was pretty far from good in ANH, to be honest, to show that it’s always been like this.

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#1154083
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

I agree we’ve been too hard on him. He’s very talented in many ways and we wouldn’t have the OT without him (and it wouldn’t have been as good as it is without him). But his talents are kinda all over the place. There are many things about the job of the director that makes him perfect for the job, but there are still many reasons why we can’t really call him a great director.

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.
He’s just not a actor’s director. But, for example, cinematography and editing in all 6 Lucas films, for me, are better than in the 3 movies we’ve had since he’s out.

And for the record, I think we had some wooden acting in TLJ, mostly by Ridley and Boyega.

Cinematography… ehhhh

George has a great eye, really he does have a great eye for good images. But he can’t move a camera to save his life.

I disagree. THX 1138 and American Graffiti have some beautiful cinematography, just like the original Star Wars.

Of course he got pretty lazy in the prequels and adopted the ‘2 angles 1 couch’ method in the prequels, but you have some really beautiful images in the prequels.

First of all, a lot of the beauty of the images should really be attributed to the actual cinematographers (and VFX/SPFX artists and production designers) more so than Lucas.

Second, yeah, the cinematography in his first three films are good. Like I said, he has a good eye, even in the prequels. But I don’t think cinematography is necessarily the original Star Wars’s strongest suit (not saying it’s bad). I can’t agree at all that episodes I-VI have better cinematography. In fact, I think TLJ might be the best of all the films in this regard. And if not TLJ, then definitely ESB, but George had nothing to do with the cinematography in that.

Yeah, well, TLJ cinematography is pretty good. God, the shaky R1 cameras drive me insane. I suppose I just prefer Lucas’ six films.

Maybe TLJ > AotC and RotS’ but I’m not entirely sure.

Besides some really good shots, most the cinematography in AOTC and ROTS is pretty average, if not outright poor.

I get not liking RO style, that’s fine, for the most part it’s a really good looking film though (to the extent that it seems like for some things there’s no point beyond looking cool).

I need to watch the PT again for us to have this discussion. I do realize I might be sounding like a George Lucas apologist, by saying even his poor cinematography is incredible. I didn’t like it in TFA or R1 however, but TLJ’s really knocked it out of the park.

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#1154062
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.
He’s just not a actor’s director. But, for example, cinematography and editing in all 6 Lucas films, for me, are better than in the 3 movies we’ve had since he’s out.

And for the record, I think we had some wooden acting in TLJ, mostly by Ridley and Boyega.

Cinematography… ehhhh

George has a great eye, really he does have a great eye for good images. But he can’t move a camera to save his life.

I disagree. THX 1138 and American Graffiti have some beautiful cinematography, just like the original Star Wars.

Of course he got pretty lazy in the prequels and adopted the ‘2 angles 1 couch’ method in the prequels, but you have some really beautiful images in the prequels.

First of all, a lot of the beauty of the images should really be attributed to the actual cinematographers (and VFX/SPFX artists and production designers) more so than Lucas.

Second, yeah, the cinematography in his first three films are good. Like I said, he has a good eye, even in the prequels. But I don’t think cinematography is necessarily the original Star Wars’s strongest suit (not saying it’s bad). I can’t agree at all that episodes I-VI have better cinematography. In fact, I think TLJ might be the best of all the films in this regard. And if not TLJ, then definitely ESB, but George had nothing to do with the cinematography in that.

Yeah, well, TLJ cinematography is pretty good. God, the shaky R1 cameras drive me insane. I suppose I just prefer Lucas’ six films.

Maybe TLJ > AotC and RotS’ but I’m not entirely sure.

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#1154060
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.
He’s just not a actor’s director. But, for example, cinematography and editing in all 6 Lucas films, for me, are better than in the 3 movies we’ve had since he’s out.

And for the record, I think we had some wooden acting in TLJ, mostly by Ridley and Boyega.

He’s not an actor’s director, you’re right, which is a problem when his dialogue is shit and unreadable.

Cinematography… ehhhh

George has a great eye, really he does have a great eye for good images. But he can’t move a camera to save his life.

Well, yeah, he’s a terrible writer. His fourth script for TESB was a rough draft at best for Kasdan. But he knows it. He wrote Star Wars77 because of Coppola telling him he should write mostly. TESB and RotJ were 90% Kasdan.

TPM is a tricky one. I think Rick McCallum tried to bring in the guy who wrote Shawshank Redemption but Lucas went in a ego trip and decided to write it himself. Apparently he also met Kasdan at USC and asked him to take a look, but Kasdan refused politely, saying George should write himself so that he could say what he really want to say.

Apparently for AotC and RotS there was no time for a second person to come in and rewrite the script a la Kasdan, with the results being 3 awful scripts with bad actig because of the scripts.

RotS wasn’t as awful because of a “dialogue coach”, Chris something, who was basically a director for the actors. The script was still pretty bad though.

Star Wars77’s script had help from the actors themselves and some of Lucas’ friends and editing, otherwise it would’ve been prequel level bad.

Lucas did take some very bad decisions, such as making TPM the prequels’ prequel, which hurt the storyline pretty bad as well.

I think most of it is Lucas’ fault, yes, but honestly we’ve been too harsh to him. Except regardig the SEs. Those are beyond fucked up.

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#1154051
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.
He’s just not a actor’s director. But, for example, cinematography and editing in all 6 Lucas films, for me, are better than in the 3 movies we’ve had since he’s out.

And for the record, I think we had some wooden acting in TLJ, mostly by Ridley and Boyega.

Cinematography… ehhhh

George has a great eye, really he does have a great eye for good images. But he can’t move a camera to save his life.

I disagree. THX 1138 and American Graffiti have some beautiful cinematography, just like the original Star Wars.

Of course he got pretty lazy in the prequels and adopted the ‘2 angles 1 couch’ method in the prequels, but you have some really beautiful images in the prequels.

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#1154046
Topic
General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And? It was asked if it was his idea and the answer is “yes, most of that show came from George’s ideas”. Let’s not bash someone for the sake of bashing. And I don’t even think he’s a bad director.

Really?

Working with actors is one of the most (if not the most) important jobs for a director, and he can’t do it. He hates doing it and it shows on screen. He can’t make bad actors better, he makes marginal actors bad, and he makes great actors average.

I don’t think he makes actors’ performances worse. He just allows the actors to have their own interpretations. Naturally that works sometimes and doesn’t work lots of times.
He’s just not a actor’s director. But, for example, cinematography and editing in all 6 Lucas films, for me, are better than in the 3 movies we’ve had since he’s out.

And for the record, I think we had some wooden acting in TLJ, mostly by Ridley and Boyega.

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#1154040
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

chyron8472 said:

Collipso said:

SilverWook said:

joefavs said:

I’m of two minds on the Maul thing. I think bringing him back was a dumb idea and I’d never have done it if I was a showrunner, but once they’d done it they did go on to do some genuinely interesting things with him.

Wasn’t it Geroge’s idea?

Most of that show came from George’s ideas.

But that’s the key: they’re just his ideas. Not his writing or direction.

And?

And he’s a good ideas man, but he’s a bad editor, and not the best director. His ideas really only are done proper justice when he has a team of people to bounce things off of. That is, people who aren’t afraid to be critical and can point out when an idea or the implementation of it is bad.

Suffice it to say one reason (of the myriad) why the Prequels and SE changes are panned is because no one overruled George to say certain things shouldn’t be done, in contrast to the original Original Trilogy.

See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk
How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.

I know that video, and I’ve watched it. You do realise that a director also has the job to direct other parts of the movie, such as editing. So even though the editing team of the original Star Wars was FANTASTIC, I’m not entirely sure if it would’ve turned out the way it did without Lucas.

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#1154035
Topic
The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

NeverarGreat said:

Random refrigerator thought, but when did the Resistance come into possession of a bombing fleet? Was it before or after the attack on Starkiller Base, where the entire mission was to hit a large, stationary target with as many bombs as possible? Leia refers to the bombing fleet as if it’s a treasured part of the Resistance, and there are dedicated Resistance crews and everything.

For that matter, when did they get that cruiser and those support ships and their crews? Did they just happen to arrive right after the events of TFA? It’s heavily implied that all of the Resistance attack ships are devoted to the Starkiller assault, and they bemoan that they have no chance without the Republic fleet (which is comprised mostly of capital ships). If they had a massive cruiser the whole time, the Leia would surely have used it to match FO forces at the Takodana battle instead of arriving later in a dinky transport.

I wish I could turn my brain off and enjoy this movie, but it feels like I’m supposed to question these things based on TLJ’s technical plot that draws attention to just this sort of thing.

It’s like the reason people want to know who Snoke is. It’s not because Snoke must be so important in his own right. We want to know how the galaxy-wide celebrations (is that heretical to say here?) at the end of ROTJ gave way to…a new Empire(?) with limitless resources. We assume it’s because of Snoke. And so we want to know how it happened.

Who was the Emperor? How did the Empire get how it was in the OT? The OT didn’t answer these questions and people aren’t complaining about that now.

I don’t think it’s fair to compare those two situations because there were no previously established realities for the situation in the galaxy to challenge. The way it went with TFA is as if TPM was the last Star Wars movie everyone saw and then they make ANH. People would go “wtf? what happened to the republic? to the separatists? what’s this empire?”

We had a established world: the empire has fallen, republic established. TFA tried to push the ANH situation down our throats but the world building wasn’t good enough - they didn’t give us any reasons or didn’t explain what is the first order or what was the republic or how we went from RotJ to the same ANH scenario. That’s what the movie doesn’t explain. It’s not about giving Snoke’s backstory I don’t think (even though that would be interesting once you realise he’s a sith and by the end of RotJ the sith were extinct), but it’s about what happened to the galaxy to get to the point where it was in TFA.

edit: Sorry, this was a really hard post to understand, sorry if it made no sense, it was badly written and not well thought out.

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#1154030
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

And to those comparing TLJ with TESB: I find it easier to relate to someone that has a lack of self trust and was lied to and has his world destroyed, than someone whose failure was almost murdering his family. I actually think it’s pretty hard to relate to the latter.

Luke is far more relatable in TLJ than ROTJ in my opinion. Obviously once you get into specifics it falls apart in any of the films. But the Luke of TLJ is one that had a moment of weakness years ago and has regretted it ever since. The fact that he was tempted to kill his nephew doesn’t really make him un-relatable when you factor in the things that brought him there that have no analogues to anyone’s life (force visions, the dark side, etc.). It’s the broad strokes that are important.

Yeah but you’d be watching RotJ right after TESB, where Luke fails every single step of the way. So you’re already rooting for him. Then you see how confident he is and finally for the first time in 2 movies, something he does works out: he rescues Han and his friends.
Then, in the Death Star, Luke ultimately fails and is about to die, after going in the noblest of quests: to redeem his father, believing in his father. He’s super relatable there.

TLJ definitely shows a broken Luke, a character that failed, but I’m not sure if it works completely for me because I don’t really believe in his failure. I don’t think Luke would get to that point, I don’t think Luke would act like that. I don’t buy his reasons.
For it to work for me, they could’ve explored it more, maybe an entire exposition scene like Ben’s Hut in ANH. Granted, there were 3 flashbacks, but I think that it’s also a product of moviemaking nowadays - movies are much faster than they were in 1977, so a dialogue heavy exposition scene like Ben’s Hut wouldn’t fit with the movie.

But that’s it.

If you watch all movies as standalones, TLJ Luke is just as relatable as TESB Luke or ANH Luke, and they’re a lot more relatable than RotJ Luke. But it’s a saga, and I have my interpretation of the characters and I’m emotionally attached to them at this point, so the way it was done, I don’t really believe that Luke would even be at Kylo Ren’s Hut to confront him. I didn’t buy it.

I must clarify something though: I actually really like the movie as a movie and, to an extent, as a Star Wars movie. I’ve done nothing but criticized it I think, but it’s because I think its flaws are so deep they have to be pointed out and discussed. But after first viewing it was a 6.5/10, then 7.5/10, and currently a 7/10. That’s not bad at all. I’d still watch R1, RotS, AotC and the OT over it, but it’s because I love those movies so so much. I don’t like Rey or Rose and have problems with some aspects of how Luke was handled, but besides that, I love most of the movie. It has some extremely high highs. I don’t think the lowest lows are as low as the highest highs are high, but I think the lows are deeply entrenched in the movie.

I HOPE SOMETHING MADE SENSE.