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“Sympathized with the Patriots”…???
What? Why?
I guess it’d be because Tom Brady’s wife is from Brazil, and so am I. Other than that, no clue. I rooted for the Bears too, and I will do it next year again, but it’s just kind of a pain.
I’m from the mid-west.
I thought you were foreign, for some reason.
I am, but I’m living in Chicago.
On second thought yeah, I guess I’m not from the mid-west, but oh well. What I was trying to say is that I sympathized with the Patriots even though I’m not from New England.
Edit: I think my awful English gave the fact that I’m a foreigner away 😮
No, your English is really good. I just remember you saying it wasn’t your first language.
Thank you, but I know I make a lot of mistakes. I can speak almost with no accent, but writing flawlessly is just harder I guess. The forum here has been helping me a lot. I hope I can get rid of all the accent in about 1-3 years. That’d be nice. Thanks again.
I’m from the mid-west.
I thought you were foreign, for some reason.
I am, but I’m living in Chicago.
On second thought yeah, I guess I’m not from the mid-west, but oh well. What I was trying to say is that I sympathized with the Patriots even though I’m not from New England.
Edit: I think my awful English gave the fact that I’m a foreigner away 😮
I don’t think that criticizing Rogue One for fan service is fair. It’s not as if it could get away without using X-Wings and TIE Fighters. It was set during that time period, so of course we’d see some familiar characters and designs. The only cameo I think was a bit too much was the cantina guys.
And I think the Han Solo movie will be the same, even though I think it might explore some different aspects of the galaxy regarding bounty hunters, gamblers and such things, with the Galactic Civil War not even being a present element in the movie, and the only familiar things be the characters and the Falcon.
So, I believe in the ESB:R credits, Ben Burtt’s name is written “Benn Burtt”. Is that another person or is it a mistake?
Edit: in the “Special Edition” part, it says “Ben Burtt”.
I believe it was meant for the marvel SW thread.
Those ideas sound interesting. I’ve been outlining on my own to see how I think the PT and ST should have gone. I think I might try writing them out at around the same complexity as the original Star Wars novelization. Try to fit the mood, themes, etc.
What you’re trying to do sounds like that Dark Horse comic “The Star Wars” which was an adaptation of the very early Lucas Whills script. I haven’t read how they adapted it but I have read all of the Lucas drafts and they’re indescribably terrible. So much of Star Wars is carried by the style, not just the substance. It’s not Star Wars without the John Williams score, the classic sound design, the life the actors breathed into lines that just don’t pop when you read them on paper.
What’s funny is I saw the original nine films as envisioned by the original writers. Let me paste it.
Ok, having a little trouble finding it but this is gold, what this guy wrote. This guy paid attention. This is what was ignored when the prequels were made.
https://www.mikeruso.com/blog/alternative-star-wars-prequels-some-ground-rules/
And here’s some good points about how Lucas almost accidentally wrote a good prequel trilogy. It’s there in the bullet points and, with different execution, would be terrific. You just have a hard time seeing it through the horrible execution we got.
Yeah, I can’t find it. There was a bullet point list of what the nine movies were going to be hashed out around the time Empire finished filming. The films were going to be:
- History of the Jedi, how they got made
- Obi-Wan and Anakin fun time
- Fall of the Jedi
- ANH we got
- TESB as we got
- ROTJ would have been different. Leia is elected president and Han dies. Luke becomes big ol’ Jedi Master. Emperor doesn’t die yet.
7-9 were not really outlined well but Luke eventually defeats the Emperor.
Your RotJ sounds a lot like the original plan for RotJ + original ST from the 80’s. Vader would die, the emperor would become the new bad guy, and Luke’s sister would be the new protagonist.
To be fair, I think your version is kind of what JJ had in mind for TLJ, specially when you look at the final TFA shot. It’s pretty clear that he didn’t want Luke to be grumpy Luke, murderer Luke, crazy Luke.
I think that the way you’re talking about the Jedi not being good is exactly what Lucas had in mind with the prequels, and that’s how I view them. The execution wasn’t really convincing though.
Loved the Skywalker nickname idea, and the Padme noblewoman idea, and the several Clone Wars idea too. It always bothered me how the clone warS was only one War.
The only one I’m not sure is the Obi-Wan exiling himself for guild. I think it’s pretty badass when both he and Yoda do whatever they can to take down an entire empire.
And by the way, I had read the first quarter of your chapter one and just finished it, and I really loved it. Keep it up!
I finally got rid of my smartphone. What a relief.
That’s cool. My dad still has a flip phone to this day. He never regretted it.
I’m from the mid-west.
I guess what Mala is saying is that in-universe there is no explicit sexism. Nobody judges or expects anything different from a woman simply because she’s a woman. We see women occupying the same position as men, and higher positions several times.
However, off-screen is pretty clear that something isn’t right when out of 100 characters in the OT literally 3 are women. I don’t think that’s something defendable.
A pretty good critical look at Luke’s characterization from someone who really enjoyed the movie. Some good comparisons to the movie “Logan.”
I watched about 20 second of it, and I need to know where he got that HD footage of Luke on Crait
I believe he got that from the “secrets” video from the Star Wars YouTube channel.
Sorry, that’s on me.
After rejecting it for a while, I honestly think an 3 hour epic cut of both films could be cool. I will still just be sticking to doing a regular last jedi edit but am looking forward to the 2 in 1’s that will be done.
They have such different visual aesthetics, and I don’t know if that would take me out of the whole experience.
Yes. The first shot of Luke in TLJ was there to establish “this is a different film”. That’s my greatest concern.
Yeah, that’s exactly how it goes in Revisited.
Well, hyperspace tracking only became a thing in TLJ. I think that’d make RO and ANH a few days apart. Not only that, but Vader never knew if Leia was on board or not.
Likely did since it’s a consular ship, from the registry they know the planet and he’s looking for the ambassador. Which then raises the question of why use such a recognizable ship for a covert mission. Actually, it brings me to mind the Snowden debacle. The US forced down a consulate aircraft under suspicion that Snowden was onboard and should have been a bigger international incident than it was. You simply don’t do this. Given that they were operating under some of the last traditions of the Old Republic, perhaps it was a bluff they thought they could pull off.
Leia was fucked already anyway, she opened fire and tried to deny it after. She’d be under arrest no matter what.
I thought you said Italians…
LOL ME TOO
New England is going to destroy Jacksonville. Mark my words.
I wasn’t being rude at all.
Yeah, I think I’m on your side on this one. To each his own but I think some people in this thread are being a bit radical.
He did say a while back that Rebels was ending and he had something huge in mind, I think.
But I think a fairer comparison would be the US to the Empire, and not to the rebels.
I don’t think WWII is a good comparison - since the galaxy literally resented to a pre-ANH state, it’s simply US vs Vietnam all over again. But the impression I got from TFA and TLJ is that we have again the Empire with limitless resources and Vietnam, now instead of having a fleet, having a 50 year old ship.
But it hasn’t reverted to a pre ANH state. The First Order is just starting it’s campaign of conquest. They haven’t take over anything yet, except maybe the major hyperspace routes. Pre ANH, the Empire was at the height of its power. The Empire is Nazi Germany, even down to the helmets, stormtroopers, and how the Chancellor rose to power. Where we are at in the ST in terms of real world WWII, would be if the Nazis had risen again in Argentina and set out to conquer Europe all over again. They are at a severe disadvantage and it won’t be easy to do. They will meet with resistance in some corners. So it makes sense to compare it to the conquest of France. The First Order rose out on the Rim so they are far from their home systems and support.
I really don’t know why you guys are taking the First Order conquest of the galaxy as a done deal. There is plenty that says it isn’t. The word reigns really got you, didn’t it. I think it was hyperbole for effect. The rest of the crawl and the movie dialog all say it hasn’t happened yet, though it is in process. If it hasn’t happened it can still be stopped. And even if they take some of the easier systems, that leaves the harder ones that Leia and the resistance can coordinate into an effective opposition.
What Resistance are they going to face? Those non existent allies that didn’t show up, even though they knew that it was Leia’s last stand? I believe that if we had other major players in this chess game for the galaxy, the movie would’ve shown them, instead of telling us they’re literally not answering to a desperate SOS.
But I think a fairer comparison would be the US to the Empire, and not to the rebels.
I don’t think WWII is a good comparison - since the galaxy literally resented to a pre-ANH state, it’s simply US vs Vietnam all over again. But the impression I got from TFA and TLJ is that we have again the Empire with limitless resources and Vietnam, now instead of having a fleet, having a 50 year old ship.
Reeses Pieces are better than M&Ms and Skittles.
I laughed out loud.
Looks like this could be the
fan-service-moviesome of the older Star Wars fans wanted from Episode VIIIwat.
Aka fuck.
