Collipso

TV’s Frink said:

It’s the best kind.

Memento disagrees.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Thanks collipso! I redrew the arms (and cape) already because they were bothering me too much, and I kept screwing up that pose, so I moved them down.

huge improvement! i loved it.

dahmage said:

Mrebo said:

Morons killed a kangaroo.

And apparently the zoo intends to tax the poor thing.

that’s literally wir

avicii died today, 28 years old. not sure if you folks knew him but he was a dj. i quite liked some of his songs. may he rest in peace

back on topic, coffee i follow you on twitter so i always see your drawings and you’re definitely improving. keep up the good work friend, i quite liked batman in your superman and batman drawing. i liked superman too, just think the arms were a bit long. but i know nothing about drawing so don’t listen to me

my god that’s adorable

Leonardo said:

SilverWook said:

Leonardo said:

Hello there! What did I miss?

Hi Leo! You picked a fine time to pop in. 😉

Hi Silverwook! haven’t had time to read a lot of posts but I do smell a bit of cordite even in this very thread, am I wrong?

not at all… we lost both warbler and _ender the past few months and tensions are rising with chyron

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

I am legitimately happy for you. It’s no fun disliking any Star Wars film.

i love rots

OK but I fail to see the relevance.

my bad i’m just pointlessly trying to be annoying. i feel bad now

TV’s Frink said:

I am legitimately happy for you. It’s no fun disliking any Star Wars film.

i love rots

Milan. I also somewhat support Liverpool and Manchester United. (there’s something about the red)

Who do you support, jason? My guess would be Liverpool but who knows…

just jumping in to say: amazing work so far darthrush. really, great job.

paja my friend do you think a new thread was necessary?

JawsTDS said:

ChainsawAsh said:

JawsTDS said:

Worst thing: John Williams’ weak and anemic score.

Couldn’t disagree more on this point, though I’d have liked to hear more new motifs in TLJ.

Listen to the opening titles of TFA and TLJ, it sounds awful. Lacks any sort of “oomph”.

I agree

good.

ChainsawAsh said:

JawsTDS said:

Worst thing: John Williams’ weak and anemic score.

Couldn’t disagree more on this point, though I’d have liked to hear more new motifs in TLJ.

TFA’s score is superb. I haven’t listened to TLJ’s enough to have an opinion.

hm

I think we should follow the OP’s example.

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

I really liked Kylo Ren in both movies too, but TFA Kylo and TLJ Kylo feel like they’re not even the same incarnation of the character. I do love him in both TFA and TLJ though.

Really? I’m interested to hear why. I feel like his overall arc between two movies is compelling and really well bridged. Everything that motivates him and drives him seems consistent throughout and he plays it as such. I’ll admit that him in the Last Jedi is so much better than him in TFA, but mainly cause of the richer material that the character had to work with in the middle installment of the trilogy.

I was being a bit hyperbolic. Rian apparently decided to ignore the Vader wannabe aspect of the character, which was a major part of Kylo, so that kind of passes the message that he wanted to just not care as much about consistency to me.

I should rewatch TLJ and TFA maybe back to back once I get my TLJ Blu-ray and think more about the matter, but yeah, that’s mainly what I’m talkig about. I believe there’s more but I can’t think of anything right now.

He didn’t ignore that aspect at all, it’s a big part of his character in TLJ.

I do recall two scenes where they address it - the first Snoke x Kylo scene, and the one where he destroys his helmet

Which informs his later actions.

Those scenes are where Kylo stops being what everyone is afraid of/hopes he is (Vader’s Legacy, which he wasn’t very good at pretending to be) and becomes himself, which is actually a little bit closer to Vader than he was before. And, honestly, much scarier than his previous Vader-wannabe persona.

Everyone comparing him to Vader his whole life has made him into what he is now.

Exactly exactly. First it was Luke trying to make him not Vader, then Snoke trying to make him nuVader. What he does here is “kill the past,” and forges his own path.

Yeah, I meant to mention that’s why he’s suddenly so into “killing the past.” Every time he destroys or loses a part of his past, he’s able to be more himself. He’s lived his whole life under the spectre of Vader: whether people were trying to exploit his lineage or suppress it. Luke and Leia were afraid of it, Snoke wanted to control that power for his own. He’s never been allowed to be himself, and once Snoke is dead, he’s suddenly freed from another part of that past and he realizes “if I can get rid of all of this, I’ll be free from this expectation.”

That’s why Rey is so important to him: she’s nobody. She doesn’t care where he came from, she’s not interested in his lineage. She’s an outsider and really the first person to see him as him and not “Vader’s Heir.”

Thanks Tyrphanax and thanks Dom, that’s a much better way to look at it than mine.

I’m rooting against Real with all of my strength. I want a different team to win the Champions League ffs.

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

I really liked Kylo Ren in both movies too, but TFA Kylo and TLJ Kylo feel like they’re not even the same incarnation of the character. I do love him in both TFA and TLJ though.

Really? I’m interested to hear why. I feel like his overall arc between two movies is compelling and really well bridged. Everything that motivates him and drives him seems consistent throughout and he plays it as such. I’ll admit that him in the Last Jedi is so much better than him in TFA, but mainly cause of the richer material that the character had to work with in the middle installment of the trilogy.

I was being a bit hyperbolic. Rian apparently decided to ignore the Vader wannabe aspect of the character, which was a major part of Kylo, so that kind of passes the message that he wanted to just not care as much about consistency to me.

I should rewatch TLJ and TFA maybe back to back once I get my TLJ Blu-ray and think more about the matter, but yeah, that’s mainly what I’m talkig about. I believe there’s more but I can’t think of anything right now.

He didn’t ignore that aspect at all, it’s a big part of his character in TLJ.

I do recall two scenes where they address it - the first Snoke x Kylo scene, and the one where he destroys his helmet

motherfucker…

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

I really liked Kylo Ren in both movies too, but TFA Kylo and TLJ Kylo feel like they’re not even the same incarnation of the character. I do love him in both TFA and TLJ though.

Really? I’m interested to hear why. I feel like his overall arc between two movies is compelling and really well bridged. Everything that motivates him and drives him seems consistent throughout and he plays it as such. I’ll admit that him in the Last Jedi is so much better than him in TFA, but mainly cause of the richer material that the character had to work with in the middle installment of the trilogy.

I was being a bit hyperbolic. Rian apparently decided to ignore the Vader wannabe aspect of the character, which was a major part of Kylo, so that kind of passes the message that he wanted to just not care as much about consistency to me.

I should rewatch TLJ and TFA maybe back to back once I get my TLJ Blu-ray and think more about the matter, but yeah, that’s mainly what I’m talkig about. I believe there’s more but I can’t think of anything right now.

ChainsawAsh said:

I also disagree that TFA Kylo and TLJ Kylo feel any different, but I can’t say the same for Hux. Felt like they pulled a “Last Crusade” Marcus Brody on him for TLJ.

I agree. I haven’t watched Last Crusade in a long time but Brody has always stuck out like a sore thumb, even when I was a kid.

TV’s Frink said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I guess, but I honestly feel that anyone who doesn’t think that is either trolling or kidding themselves.

Um, nah I’ve thought my opinion on the prequels through many times, I don’t think I’m kidding myself.

Yeah but how would you know?

it isn’t hard to realize you’re trying to fool yourself.