Chewtobacca

Ridley Scott said: ...or not sharing the right cut, my Final Cut.

:-)

captainsolo said:  Big question: Who here actually likes the narration and/or "happy ending"? (I won't ask the obvious is Deckard a replicant?)

I initially disliked it, but I have warmed to it.  It is better on some of the deleted scenes, especially the deleted scene where Batty dies. 

The happy ending really does not fit, so I would have to say no, but I like the "I think we were made for each other" line and Ford's reaction, as it can be read in two ways.

That is odd.  I can well imagine Astraweb having that problem, but Giganews if supposed to be bettter.  At least that is what I hear.

g-force said:

One thing to keep in mind is that the Anti-Aliasing filter is a line doubler. You MUST resize afterwards unless you want an image that is stretched vertically.

Ah!  That explains why the vertical height was doubled when I took the resize out!  Now I understand why the resize is there, everything is good.

g-force said:  Yeah, one could argue that your TV won't display the edges anyway due to overscan... But not everyone is watching these on a TV. No harm done just blacking out what you don't want and what the TV doesn't show anyway, right?

No harm at all!  :-)  Was the resizing done in a NAB aware way though?  You are of course right that not everyone watches on a TV, but to me that makes 704x480 even more appealing, as you will see no pillarboxing on a PC or a TV as long as both are set right.  It is this line I do not understand:

Spline16Resize(728,388).Crop(8,14,-6,-10,align=true).AddBorders(3,58,3,58)

As to which resizer is in the script, it does not matter, as people can change it to whatever they want anyway.

I actually like the cover, even the background.  It fits the light-hearted TV nature of this preservation.  This seems like a fun release.  I shall look forward to it.  :-)

C3PX said:

@Chewtobacco, so what is the fifth audio option? Both you and the fanedit.org page seem to be extremely secretive of what it is.

You want me to spoil the surprise?  It adds back item number 3 on ChainsawAsh's list.  You have to follow ADM's instructions on how to rip and replace an audio track on the disc though.

Indeed it is good to have TheBoost back.

Strange!  I could have sworn that I saw them more recently.  My mistake! I shall have a look.  Are you sure that IV and V are unrecoverable?

A is for:

A is for AT-AT.

Easterhay said:

But if Kurtz is to be believed, he would've gone with the downbeat ending to the film.  We'd already had that with ESB.  The story has to have a celebratory ending, like it or not, otherwise it's sending out completely the wrong message.

I do not see why it "has to" have a celebratory ending.  The word Kurtz used was "bittersweet", implying a more mixed ending; not downbeat like Empire Strikes Back, nor essentially celebratory, which the original Star Wars film had already done, but something in between.  It strikes me that this would have made a more thoughtful ending to the saga.

skyjedi2005 said:

Yes the theatrical cut was restored on a second DVD release,

Is this the seamless-branching limited edition release?  What was the quality like on the NTSC release, if you do not mind my asking?  I hope it was better than the original theatrical DVD.

No, I was actually just making sure that you knew which version that link pointed to.  The work that you have seen on Adywan's page is for his Empire Strikes Back: Revisited edit, which is indeed his own personalised version of the film.  The link was to a restoration of the original theatrical version of Empre Strikes Back in high quality, as close to the way it appeared in theaters as he could make it in time for the anniversary of the film.

Easterhay said:

Don't shoot the messenger.  Sunday was only quoting some sad and lonely fanboy who really needed to get a proper perspective on life.

Sunday was not quoting.  He was using the phrase independently as far as I could see, and I was just saying that I did not see why the phrase was necessary i.e. discussing the phrase itself.

Doubleofive is the person you were talking to above me.  No compiling was necessary.

Yes; let us agree to disagree.  Since you know what I am going to say anyway, it saves time.

One person with that as a signature does not speak for everyone here.  Given your remarks to doubleofive, you might know what a forum is for, but you seemed to have forgotten it.

Easterhay said:

I have little in common with the fans who make their own edits, I'm afraid.  I'm aware of Adywan and while his passion is admirable, I won't be choosing his versions over the ones I currently have.  Thanks all the same :)

You did realize that the link was to a restoration/reconstruction of the original version not a fan edit as such, did you not?

Easterhay said:

Rip-off how?  And it took a forum full of haters to tell you what to think?  Sad, that.

As some of us have tried to put across, we are not a forum full of haters.  Moreover, there is nothing wrong in realizing things only through discussion with others.  That is what forums, and human discussion in general, are for.

Very well, greenscreen it is!

1. The Republic would still be old in TPM, so I do not see why we should limit analysis to films following TPM.
2. I do not think that the greenscreen does show a much more used universe in AOTC and ROTS.
3. Even if it did, it would not affect the view that I expressed that the biggest source of visual difference between trilogies was the excessive use of CGI in the prequels.

Easterhay said:

The reason, though, that the prequels look so differently to the originals is that we're seeing The Republic in its prime

I disagree.  The biggest source of the visual difference between the prequels and the originals is the over-use of blue screen and computer generated imagery in the prequels.  George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola talk about the idea of a "used future" in the special features to THX-1138.  Just because the Republic was at its height does not mean that everything would have looked the way it did in the prequels: there should still be more of a used feel in the Old Republic, which, we are led to believe, had been around for quite a while.

TV's Frink said:

O rly?

Lick of paint, lick of paint, one hour!  Plenty of time.  Give us a biscuit.

Indeed!  The colors look great in that picture.

SpaceOddity said:

Chewtobacca said:

There was a very similar thread before.

Ah, sorry about that.

No worries!  I thought that the other might be interesting to read, and we might as well carry it on, but this one seems to have taken off anyway, so... :-)

TV's Frink said:

Lol, I thought this was going to be a "why do people think this movie is so great?" thread, based on the title.

I thought the same as Frink.  I love this film though.  It is one of my favorite films of all time. 

Bingowings is right that the Final Cut corrects many of the goofs of the earlier versions.  It is still not quite perfect for me though. 

There was an explanation for the bad dubbing in the Abdul ben Hassan scene, but I have forgotten what it was.  The Boost, if you do not have the five-disc edition yet, I highly recommend it.  I like each version in its own way, and the commentaries are fascinating, especially the one on the workprint.

You should all check out adigitalman's extended edition, if you have not already done so.  No fewer than four audio options, with an optional fifth option if you are brave.  One of these includes more life, father remixed better than in the Final Cut, Bingowings.  :-)

http://fanedit.org/486/

NAB is nominal analogue blanking.  It means that eight pixels on the left and eight pixels on the right (for NTSC) are junk and do not count toward the calculation of the aspect ratio. They can be discarded.

I do not want an anamorphic mkv, because the player will do a better job of resizing this than the filter.  It would be like playing an AVI on a PS3:  It would be scaled up, no problem.  :-)

I have been playing with deleting the anamorphic resizing section of the script and replacing the cropping line with:

Crop(8,96,-8,-96,align=true)

When I do this, the vertical resolution ends up doubled though...  :-(