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- <strong>4K77</strong> - Released
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I know some are on RARBG, though I’m not certain of which version(s).
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I know some are on RARBG, though I’m not certain of which version(s).
Yeah, it’s for sure the overly cartoonish voice. The concept of droid torture doesn’t bother me in the SW universe, and that scene would work just fine as an unsettling threat to our droids if it wasn’t treated so comically.
The original negative is faded because that’s what film does. It fades over time. All restorations of old films that go back to the negative have to deal with that, that’s nothing new. If that was a problem that couldn’t be solved, nothing made before 2000 would look good in HD.
The majority of the negative is not “severely deteriorated.” I don’t know where you’re getting that. The negatives were physically restored in 1995/96 for the original SE, and scanned for the 2004 DVD/HDTV masters (also used for the 2011 Blu’s), and again for the 4K Disney+/UHD Blu-Ray release.
I knew your answer already, Hal, yet hearing it again still disappoints. :’( Ah well.
I do think you need to let it go though, Broom Kid. Hal has said time and time and time again that he won’t be cutting Mustafar, and constantly bringing it up when he’s already tested it and didn’t like it and firmly said he won’t be cutting it, isn’t going to do anything but clutter up his thread. That’s why I stopped bringing it up months ago.
You downloaded someone else’s compressed re-encodes, then, not the actual official Team Negative1 releases.
Official releases of 4K77 and 4K83 are MKV files with multiple DTS-HD MA and Dolby Digital audio tracks, or Blu-Ray ISO files that also have DTS-HD MA and Dolby tracks. None of them are MP4/M4V and none of them have AAC audio.
I managed to find a copy of the S5 finale that was ripped from the US Blu. It’s the S4 finale that I still can’t track down anywhere in its original form. Might have to double-buy that season, then…ugh.
It’s included in 4K77…just change audio tracks
As for introducing Palpatine, Jake, I’m gonna be honest, that’s a really dumb idea. His introduction fits perfectly as a cliffhanger ending to TLJ. Leave it at that.
Thanks for the constructive criticism
Ah, I see you’ve met AniStar.
Awesome news! Thanks!
That’s ZigZig’s project and it isn’t affiliated with the 4K## team, so it wouldn’t be 4K99. He’s got a thread for it floating around in this section of the forum somewhere, but as far as I’m aware there hasn’t been an update in a while. I imagine COVID likely stalled progress, but that’s just conjecture.
Are there any differences between this and the film we got is 05?
To expand a little on what Bobson said, this is actually our best reference for what the film as released in 2005 on digital screens actually was. If I’m not mistaken, there’s also a cam recording from a theater in 05 that matches this workprint exactly (well, minus timecode etc).
Okay, I found the AC3 track again. I’ll try to remember to keep it on my MEGA account for anyone else who wants it, but no promises!
I’ve been racking my brain at the comment that the S4 and S5 finales are preserved in their original double-length forms on Blu because…they aren’t. At least, not on my sets, and I’ve been scouring the Internet for any BDrip uploads that have the movie length S4 and S5 finales, and have found nothing - they’re all split.
I was talking to SpacemanDoug about it, and after a while he finally dug up some info - they’re only preserved on the US Region A releases. I imported the UK sets because they were cheaper at the time, and apparently all the scene uploaders also used an international set for their rips and uploads.
Man. That really sucks, I didn’t want to have to re-buy them…
Congrats from me as well!
I think the smoke could blend a little better with the background (the edges seem too “hard” to me) but other than that I think it’s seamless and don’t think it would have looked out of place at all in the theater.
Frankly I’m not sure that’s the best approach anymore outside of a few very specific instances. Unless you’re really trying to “clean up” effects shots, including getting rid of grain and dirt that’s baked into the negative due to compositing and removing matte lines or particularly stubborn garbage mattes.
There’s room for both. I skimmed the v1 and I like it quite a bit, though of course the laserdisc snippets are noticeable, but way more seamless than any attempt I’ve seen in the past (and very watchable). I’d love a version of this in a full-bitrate ~35GB BD50-compliant encode with the theatrical DTS 5.1 audio synced to it! But the 5GB with stereo AAC audio will do for now.
And yeah, I’d still like to see a “true” TPM Despecialized/“4K99” for archival purposes but to be honest, in the future if I don’t watch a fan edit, this will almost certainly be the version I watch.
It’s fine as long as you own the official Blu-Ray and you don’t post links in the open forum, only in private messages.
I don’t think a “Hondo maneuver” would be PG-13 enough for a Star Wars movie. Best to leave that to the imagination.
Theatrical cut but with CGI Yoda?
Yep, I’m very interested!
FYI, I’ve suddenly gotten multiple requests for this in the past 2 weeks after months of nobody asking for it. I don’t currently know where it is, I believe it got moved onto one of my many, many external drives when I did a clean install of Windows recently. I’m planning on digging through them this weekend to look for it.
For everyone who’s sent me a PM asking for it, hopefully I’ll be able to dig it up and reupload it this weekend. For anyone else finding this thread, please hold off on PM’ing me about it for now. I’ll post another update in here if I find it again.
I think I slightly prefer the “alternate” one, but I’d be happy with either as well.
I’m seeing a lot less noise and there might be a miniscule amount of detail loss on Qui-Gon’s chest by the crooks of his elbows, but I’m also seeing significantly more detail near his armpits and pretty much everywhere else in the image. I’m also pretty sure the perceived extra detail around the crooks of the elbows in Althor’s capture is just noise and not actually more detail, but even if it is a slight loss in detail it’s worth it for the immensely improved amount of detail practically everywhere else in the frame, especially in faces which I’d argue is much more important than some wrinkles on their plain brown robes.
Yeah, I’m actually seeing less detail in your copy versus Zig’s. Look at Obi-Wan’s furrowed brow - you can see the creases between his eyebrows clearly in Zig’s screencap, but it’s a blur in yours. I’m also not seeing any loss of detail in shadows.