True, but I do agree that it’s not really part of the scope of a project in which the primary goal is to hybridize official versions. The Emperor thing is an exception (to me) because the 2004 version just looks awful.
Hal 9000 said:
I no longer use Adywan footage
save for the Emperor hologram scene.
–oh, nevermind, we good.
Anakin Starkiller said:
You know what the KoR dialog feels like? A pointless SE change. You know, like Vader’s or Luke’s lines being changed in ESB.
I’ve only heard four acceptable impersonators. One, Ian Abercrombie, has sadly since passed away. The others, Sam Witwer, Tim Curry, and Nick Jameson, are all out of the budget I imagine 😅
Personally Witwer’s Palpatine never sounded quite right to me.
My god, you are just incapable of being constructive or tactful with your criticisms, aren’t you?
Thanks for the mention! However, putting our (me, expanded universes and smudger) edits down to boost the appeal of your edit might be a bit tasteless.
What? How is he doing this in any way? He’s saying that the approaches other edits have taken didn’t work for him so he’s going to try a different approach. He’s not saying the edits are bad or that the editors taking these approaches have done a bad job.
If you’re going to be working on projects in a highly collaborative area like fan edits (or any other creative endeavor), you gotta have thicker skin than that, man.
Yeah, I was gonna say - what is mid-November 2020 if not late 2020?
Plus getting anyone to do an impression that blends seamlessly will be a tall order at best. Look at how split everyone here is on the Knights of Ren voices, and those don’t have to replicate and work within/around an existing performance.
Hal 9000 said:
Yeah, maybe. I was hoping not to have two audio tracks
As the guy who’s going to end up encoding the DTS versions of those tracks…
Yes, please, I’d SO very much prefer a no-KoR-dialogue track option. That would solve my only nagging problem with V1 - I really don’t like the new lines.
Jose Hidalgo said:
Could somebody help me answer this ?
Jose Hidalgo said:
Actually my question was also how to know if we have the latest versions. How could I compare the versions on my hard drive to the versions on your Drive ?
There should be a way to differentiate versions.
At the very least, we could differentiate them by exact size.
No one’s really answering your question, they just keep telling you what versions are on the Drive right now.
There’s really no good way to tell which version is on your hard drive at this moment unless you still have the included Readme/changelist text file, which should say which version it is.
If you don’t have that, there’s no good way to differentiate without going back and checking the changelists of each version and seeing if certain unique changes are there in the version on your hard drive.
Unfortunately, the only place I know of to look at the changelists for every version is on the MySpleen uploads…if I have time tonight I’ll go through them and make some notes of what specific things to look for in each edit to determine which version you have.
I don’t think the new dialogue does anything to explain their actions or humanize them in any way. It just sounds awkward and out of place.
I was hoping it would (I’d actually avoided listening to any of the samples, I wanted to hear it fresh when V1 dropped without all the iterations coloring my perception), but it sadly did not. It’s really the only blemish to me in the whole package.
Darth Muffy said:
I’ve tried to do that, but it never actually makes the copy. I have legit left google drive run overnight and it did not make a copy. I don’t know what the issue is.
That is odd as I just did that tried the fix myself with no issues 🤔
Are you seeing the copy you made in My Drive ?
Copying stopped working for me in the middle of downloading the individual stems for Hal’s TROS project to encode the DTS track. I had to wait, like, 3 days to download the center, LFE, and rear channel AIFF files.
Seems the only real way to get around the quota now is to right click on the FOLDER containing the files you want, and click “download,” forcing Drive to ZIP all of the the files inside the folder (though it usually won’t actually ZIP the large MKV file itself, that will just start downloading after it ZIPs everything else). You just have to wait for the ZIP process to finish.
The copy method no longer works, and the straight download method seems to be perpetually at quota.
Google Drive fucking sucks for fanedit sharing now, man…
Forgot to chime in - I watched this over the weekend and it was fantastic! I didn’t loathe the theatrical cut, but I didn’t think it was very good - this at least gives the film some degree of dignity back.
If the theatrical cut was a dumb-as-rocks mid-90s EU novel put to film, this is a reasonably adequate mid-90s EU novel put to film. And I’m okay with that.
Still hope the crackly saber thing can be implemented in the future, and I’m still interested to check out a Rey Nobody cut, but for now, this works for me as my “canon” replacement. My only complaint is that I really didn’t like any of the new Knights of Ren dialogue, they all felt out of place and “fanfiction”-y, but they were used sparingly enough that I can overlook it (or if I really want to someday, I can always customize the audio track myself to remove the lines).
Thanks for this Hal, and everyone else who put so much time and effort into this!
Starbuck better get to keep her Bo Katan armor.
I feel like the whole point of Willie was to take the stereotypical shrill “damsel in distress” type character and show how she would actually react to being put through all of the shit she goes through. Unfortunately, that sort of character had long been out of fashion, and either they didn’t execute the idea well enough for audiences to get what they were going for, or it was just a bad choice given how the depiction of women in film had improved quite a bit by that time.
Not necessarily trying to say “You’re wrong, Willie is great, and here’s incontrovertible evidence!” - Willie is 100% a huge flaw in the film. I’m just not sure whether that’s because they executed a misguided idea too well, or they bungled a decent idea.
Book 5 was incredible. I’m so excited to see it unfold on screen.
I don’t think that’s an unpopular opinion. I think even Cameron is on record saying he prefers the theatrical cut.
Temple of Doom is great and I’ll be forever upset that they decided to make Last Crusade and Crystal Skull into Raiders clones instead of letting each movie be wholly unique, the way Temple was.
That decision also unfortunately makes Temple into the “odd man out” of the series, in much the same way Halloween III is the “odd man out” in that franchise.
Send a PM to LastSurvivor over at the Fanedit.org forums.
Google Drive is becoming shit for sharing edits. It took me, what, a whole week just do download the friggin’ audio stems to encode the DTS track? That’s just absurd.
The CGI replacements have aged worse than the original shots.
Maybe a stupid question, but what is DTS audio?
It’s a different audio codec, that’s all. AC3 (aka Dolby Digital) is owned by Dolby, and DTS is owned by…well, DTS.
Standard AC3 tracks max out at 640kbps, while standard DTS tracks can go up to approximately 1500kbps.
It’s a way of delivering higher-quality lossy audio while still saving on file size compared to lossless codecs like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.
Although I do standard DTS encoding because I simply don’t have the DTS-HD MA encoder suite; if I had that, I’d be making lossless encodes for Hal rather than the 1500kbps DTS encodes.
DTS audio should be done tomorrow, barring any unforeseen issues with the new stems - and assuming I don’t keep forgetting to do it.
Forgive me if I’ve already asked this, but is the edit idea of Vader saying “Your mother once thought as you do” rather then “Obi-Wan…” still happening?
I don’t believe anyone ever found a convincingly-matched audio clip to use for that, or been able to successfully take any of the audio clips that have been suggested and make them blend seamlessly.
I’d love to be corrected on that if anyone solved the issue.
Yeah, don’t ever expect any of these fan projects to have a truly “final” release or ever be “done.”
Adywan was “done” with ANH:R over a decade ago, yet here he is making an HD recreation while simultaneously working on ROTJ:R. Hal 9000 said that the current version of his prequel edits were “final” dating all the way back to version 2 and they currently sit at version 6!
You can choose to either keep up with the most recent version of everything, or find one that you’re happy with and let that be the end of it (which is what I did with Hal’s v5 of Episode II and is almost certainly what I’m doing with 4K83 v1.4 - I did download v1.6 to try it out and found that I very strongly preferred v1.4).
But don’t EVER sit around waiting for the “final version” of a fan project to be released, because you’ll be waiting forever!