Hairy_hen has a version of his 5.1 audio track that includes this music. In fact, it was mistakenly included as the only 5.1 track on the initial 4K83 releases (don’t know if it’s still the muxed-in track on recent iterations, but the “purist mix” was readily made available by him as well).
Broom Kid said:
This is, I believe, the first time post-release tinkering has happened at Lucasfilm since the purchase. Up until now there’s been no “versions” of anything.
The series premiere movie of Rebels had a scene between Vader and the Grand Inquisitor added to it when it re-ran on ABC, and that version is the one on the S1 Blu-Ray/DVD set. I think the standalone Spark of Rebellion DVD release is the original version, but I don’t recall if that got a Blu-Ray release, too.
They’ve redubbed the Emperor with Ian McDiarmid for The Siege of Lothal
Huh. Presumably this is for Disney+?
It’s already changed on the Amazon stream/download.
Hal 9000 said:
he may be able to lay some more mothers
Also this hadn’t dawned on me before until recently. THIS is the scene of Luke confronting Vader that Yoda said needed to happen. As a kid I assumed Yoda meant another lightsaber battle needed to take place. Luke did too I guess. But without this conversation, the throne room scene could’ve been quite different. …right?
Oh wow, that’s a great observation! Never considered that before.
Hal 9000 said:
I find myself genuinely surprised at how well changing Vader’s line to Luke in ROTJ to, “Your mother once thought as you do” works. This is due largely to the audio work Sir Ridley and others have brought to bear. I’m not 100% sure, but I imagine it would be worth making at least an alternate audio track for a ROTJ project.
Here’s how the best version so far, from Sir Ridley, sounds when fully baked in. I included a few lines from Vader before and afterward. What do you all think about potentially going this route? Content-wise, it seems to be a meaningful alteration, given that this is a fan project which does not threaten the availability of the OOT. Padme beckons Anakin in ROTS, now Luke echoes this.
I love the idea, and the timing of the line is perfect now, but the Vader-y processing/EQ still needs work to be seamless, I think.
Too bad i have to bother him cause I dont have myspleen.
You wouldn’t be “bothering” him. PMing creators for links to their projects is standard practice around here.
His full-bitrate (approx. 40GB) HDTV v2’s are finished, yeah. He’s currently encoding lower bitrate (approx.8GB) ones, then he’s going to tackle ROTS theatrical v2.
Haven’t gotten a chance to download any of these yet, but are they player-generated (SRT) subs, or Blu-Ray (SUP) graphical subs?
Either way they wouldn’t have the fade ins/outs and the timing might not be precise, but the font, size, kerning, drop shadows, and placement would be all baked in with SUP subs.
Ah, okay, I wasn’t aware of that.
Before I made a post, I was looking trough forums for 5 straight hours, reading all of ya posts. 4k scan does indeed sound great.
Too bad I don’t own myspleen. Im very interested in Schorman’s HDTV preservation. Care to help if you have some free time? Couldn’t find it on my other private trackers
Send Schorman a private message.
Last update was given a few weeks ago, and you know that a scanning process is a long way… People involved in this project are informed.
Anyway, nobody is dead and everything is going well 😃
I was more talking about an HD “Despecialized” type of release, which always seems to fizzle out without materializing no matter who’s doing it.
To be honest, it’s been so long since an actual update on your 4K scan that I forgot anyone was currently working on one for TPM. Last update as I recall was back in June, when you said you were still waiting to get it scanned properly due to a faulty sensor or something on the 4K scanner, yes? Or did I miss something?
Good question. I assume they’re just the 2001-04 DVD releases, unless they pressed DVD copies of the BR masters in the past, since these seem to just be “clear out old stock” releases.
Well, after no updates for months I tend to assume a project is dead.
Schorman’s HDTV preservations, which he just released a V2 of!
His TPM is the same as the 2001 DVD cut, though - every HD 1999 theatrical restoration seems to stall and never get released.
His AOTC is the DVD cut, but it’s the closest we’ll get to the theatrical cut without finding a DCP of the digital version or scanning a 35mm print of the film version.
Also, he’s made an actual theatrical restoration of ROTS, but the only difference between that and his HDTV is the restoration of a missing wipe transition and the inclusion of the theatrical DTS audio. He’s said he’ll be updating this with a V2 soon using his V2 HDTV.
The Blu-Ray of ROTS is almost theatrical, too - it includes the missing wipe, but also adds moss to the rooftops on Kashyyyk and some new sound effects to the clone troopers attacking on Utapau.
There it is! That’s the one!
Incremental improvements are often the difference between something that works for a fan edit and something that is completely seamless and looks/sounds like it always belonged.
And I do think the slower version is an improvement. It’s pretty close to seamless now, I think.
Interesting. Guess they’re just trying to clear as much old stock as possible, and might still be trying to push the 3D set by keeping that disc exclusive to it.
That’s pretty damn good! I think the awkwardly quick “mother” line reading would play better if there was a little bit more of a pause afterward, too.
“Your mother … once thought as you do.”
Like he’s being somewhat reflective for a beat, you know?
Fang Zei said:
I wonder if TFA is the original release or the one from the 3D combo that has the Abrams commentary.
That’s actually a good question. Anyone have photos of the backs of the covers?
Well, yeah, if you already own the Blu-Rays, why bother buying a repackaged copy of the same discs?
I don’t get why people are saying the battle droid head is so subtle. It’s the biggest thing in the frame. If everyone else likes it I’ll shut up, but for me it’s just distracting.
It’s definitely not the biggest thing in the frame, that would easily still be R5, who is also still bright enough to draw the eye immediately. In motion you don’t even notice the battle droid unless you’re looking for it.
Repackaged re-releases with no fanfare are super common nowadays, though. Just look at all the repackaged MCU Blu-Rays that have come out over the past year or so with the ugly matching covers.
I’ve already taken care of the video, but I wanted to wait to post until I could update the audio portion a bit.
Ooh, that’s nice to hear!