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ChainsawAsh

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#1274722
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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That exact interview has been discussed on this site ad nauseum for two years now. She’s not saying anything about the original versions. She’s saying they won’t make any more changes to the first six films because that’s the way he worded his question. That’s all.

I’m not saying we will ever get official unaltered original releases (that seems very unlikely in the near future, if at all), but that interview is not evidence of that in any way.

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#1274585
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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Ah, okay, that makes sense.

Looking through the thread I linked, it seems like there may have been some picture differences here and there that didn’t affect run time or audio at all (bacta scene is edited differently, some optical wipes ended up as straight cuts in the 35mm, there are straight cuts instead of dissolves in the Luke/Vader telepathy scene, and the missing Falcon radar dish under Cloud City), and then the final scene as described, plus a couple different sound effects here and there.

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#1274577
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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crissrudd4554 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Fang Zei said:

Anyway, what’s so special about the 70mm ESB? Didn’t ANH also have picture and sound differences between the 35mm and 70mm versions?

Sound, yes, picture, no. ESB is the only one to have visual/editing differences between 70mm and 35mm, which was just down to a few VFX shots in the final scene being unfinished when the 70mm prints were struck IIRC.

I seem to recall reading there were also slightly different scene transitions between the two. Some of the audio changes were carried over to the SE. ‘It’ll keep you warm until I get the shelter up’ ‘You were lucky to get out of there’ etc.

In theater audio recordings of 70mm ESB screenings have proven the “SE carryover” dialogue differences wrong (and proven the final scene differences correct). Here’s a thread about it.

msycamore said:

Fantastic to finally be able to hear how close it really was to the regular 35mm Dolby Stereo in terms of content, whining snowspeeder, shelter built, the same “the first transport is away”, you’re lucky you don’t taste very good, I know where luke is etc. are all in the 70mm as well. Even the few extra lines and alternates heard here and there in the '97SE that many have claimed to be 70mm dialogue are not present.

Haven’t listened to it from beginning to end yet, but the quality of the recording wasn’t bad at all. What a damn fine job you did capturing this piece of SW-history and sharing it with us 30 years later! Simply amazing!

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#1274539
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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Fang Zei said:

Anyway, what’s so special about the 70mm ESB? Didn’t ANH also have picture and sound differences between the 35mm and 70mm versions?

Sound, yes, picture, no. ESB is the only one to have visual/editing differences between 70mm and 35mm, which was just down to a few VFX shots in the final scene being unfinished when the 70mm prints were struck IIRC.

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#1274455
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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I doubt we’ll ever get an official release of the 2005 ROTS. It’s just too close to identical to the BR release.

For AOTC, the 35mm version would be a possibility, as would the IMAX cut, but I doubt they’d make a distinction between the DLP and DVD/BR versions.

Then there’s the question of TPM and the OT’s “middle children” (2001 TPM with extended scenes and CPY; OT 97 and 2004), which are possible, too.

It’s more likely IMO that we’ll get the original theatrical cuts sans ROTS (77, 80, 83, 99, 02 [35mm]), and the “final” cuts of all of them alongside (2011 BR versions), with all the middle versions omitted. With the IMAX AOTC possibly thrown in for good measure.

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#1274186
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Any alternatives to tsmuxer for losslessly converting a mkv to BD iso?
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I can tell you exactly why for Revisited:

It’s not 1280x720 or 1920x1080. That is, the letterboxing is cropped off, but Blu-Ray format requires a full 1920x1080 or 1280x720 frame size, so black bars are necessary.

In other words, you can’t burn ESB:R to disc without reencoding.

As for Hal’s edits, even the full 1920x1080 versions don’t play nice with BD format and never have. I gave up trying a long time ago. Something to do with Hal making them on a Mac - there are a couple solutions that have worked for some people, but I’ve never been successful.

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#1273687
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The Last Jedi - Clean cut edition
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Assuming the YouTube link I just saw on Reddit is the same as your V8 - in motion it doesn’t look entirely convincing to me. It feels like a 2D image pasted on instead of a three-dimensional part of the scene.

Love the idea, and this is proves to me that it CAN be done convincingly, but it’s not quite there yet. I’m almost thinking it needs to be done like some of the Blade Runner Final Cut stuff, where they filmed new footage that was precisely timed and matched movement-wise to the original footage - so film someone holding a screen-accurate ROTJ Luke saber prop hilt and moving it in the same ways Luke moves the saber in TLJ.

Or maybe a 3D model manually adjusted and tracked instead of trying to get a still image (or series of them) to work (assuming that’s what was done here).

Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, it just isn’t quite convincing enough for me.

I will say, though, the green blade itself looks perfect!