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ChainsawAsh
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- #97176
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- Need Help Finding Struzan Art
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- #97118
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- Idea & Info: The Definitive Stereo Mix
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Actually, that was a good story.
BTW, are you Audrey 2?
Actually, that was a good story.
BTW, are you Audrey 2?
Unfortunately, no, but the guy who plays Audrey II is a big black guy (who happens to be one of the nicest guys I know; he won't even say the line, "No shit, Sherlock," he changed it to "shiznit" which I think is ridiculously stupid but better than cutting it completely I guess), and I'm a little white guy, so that wouldn't work. No, I'm a street wino; no lines, chorus part. If I could sing I'd probably be Orin Scrivello, that's the part I auditioned for and everyone loved me in it, but I can't sing. On a small sidenote earlier this year I was Paravicini in Agatha Christie's The Mousetrap.
But anyway, back on topic, yeah that is a very fine line; I'd say by this point it's a near-moot point, as there are so many high-quality versions out there that preserve the original that it doesn't really matter anymore.
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- Idea & Info: The Definitive Stereo Mix
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- #96579
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- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/96579/action/topic#96579
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- Info & Offer Of Help: Audio Assist
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/96577/action/topic#96577
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- #95403
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- <strong>The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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Originally posted by: Metallaxis
I just saw the editdroid ESB disc, and there are some strange things I noticed:
First of all, the menus are not of the same aesthetics of those in the ANH disc, formerly known as the Mysterious mysteries.
Second, there is this issue of the menu not playing first (which I fixed BTW), as did the menu in ANH disc.
Third, there is no crawl selection in this one. As I was not even born when ESB was in theatres, I don't know how the original crawl was on that film. was it "Episode V" like?
And another thing: There is an easter egg in the ESB disc (In the bonus features screen, go to "main menu" button and then press right). That easter egg provides nothing extra to the spactator, it just mocks him (you'll understand when you see it). So I'm thinking.... Why would someone who made a disc only for himself, as the creator of this set claims he did, put an easter egg like this in his creation?
Bottomline, after seing the second disc of the set, I don't get the impression that these two discs belong to the same set.
Any comments?
I just saw the editdroid ESB disc, and there are some strange things I noticed:
First of all, the menus are not of the same aesthetics of those in the ANH disc, formerly known as the Mysterious mysteries.
Second, there is this issue of the menu not playing first (which I fixed BTW), as did the menu in ANH disc.
Third, there is no crawl selection in this one. As I was not even born when ESB was in theatres, I don't know how the original crawl was on that film. was it "Episode V" like?
And another thing: There is an easter egg in the ESB disc (In the bonus features screen, go to "main menu" button and then press right). That easter egg provides nothing extra to the spactator, it just mocks him (you'll understand when you see it). So I'm thinking.... Why would someone who made a disc only for himself, as the creator of this set claims he did, put an easter egg like this in his creation?
Bottomline, after seing the second disc of the set, I don't get the impression that these two discs belong to the same set.
Any comments?
ESB was always Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back. STAR WARS was the only one that ever had a crawl change. I like the different menus - I was worried they'd just be a rehash of the ANH menus, just with different pictures. I can't wait to see the ROTJ menus.
Apollo - Thanks for the directions, it works flawlessly.
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- <strong>The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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Originally posted by: ApolloOne
Use IFOedit on the VIDEO_TS.IFO file and change the first play pre-command. I actually find it refreshing not to have to hit a button to watch the movie. When I want extras, I hit menu.
Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Is there a way I can mess with the VOB files so the main menu comes up first instead of the movie?
Is there a way I can mess with the VOB files so the main menu comes up first instead of the movie?
Use IFOedit on the VIDEO_TS.IFO file and change the first play pre-command. I actually find it refreshing not to have to hit a button to watch the movie. When I want extras, I hit menu.
How do I do this exactly? I have IFOEdit, but no experience with it at all...
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- #95173
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- <strong>The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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- #94984
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- <strong>The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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Originally posted by: RichKS
Looking at (for example) the original release of David Fincher's Se7en in it's non-anamorphic ickyness next to the more recent release, the difference is remarkable. The Anamorphic version looks sharper, crisper and all-round better. The letterbox version looks fine until you see what you're missing.
Looking at (for example) the original release of David Fincher's Se7en in it's non-anamorphic ickyness next to the more recent release, the difference is remarkable. The Anamorphic version looks sharper, crisper and all-round better. The letterbox version looks fine until you see what you're missing.
That's because it's an entirely different transfer. That is a very bad example. And I haven't seen either the Dr. Gonzo or EditDroid set on a 16:9 TV, but I have both and have seen both on 4:3 ones, and the EditDroid blows Dr. Gonzo out of the water. If there were no dot crawl, or greatly reduced dot crawl, I'd say it is perfect DVD quality. But the thing is on my Toshiba setup in my room there isn't any dot crawl at all, but that may be because that's the only TV I'm running with component cables. But if anyone can point me to a way where I can take the original m2v file, run a dot-crawl filter on it so it ends up in a new m2v file and NOT an avi file or anything else because I still have problems converting avi to m2v, please tell me so this would look as good on any TV.
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- #94597
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- .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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I'm tired. I need sleep...I've been watching the first season of 24 for a few days (borrowed it, I just started watching the show this season), and I'm obsessed, so rather than sleep I'll probably be watching 4:00 PM - 5:00 PM.
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- .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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- #93749
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- StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
I don't think it has anything to do with that ADM. He's referring to how one can confuse posts by looking at the avatar and not the name. I changed mine to this when I kept confusing my posts with Hal 9000's. We need more avys.
I don't think it has anything to do with that ADM. He's referring to how one can confuse posts by looking at the avatar and not the name. I changed mine to this when I kept confusing my posts with Hal 9000's. We need more avys.
We need to get the submit-your-own avatar working again...I've been trying to submit a Donnie Darko avatar until I was informed by Jay that it hasn't worked for a looooooooong time...
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- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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- StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93379/action/topic#93379
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DanielB, if you don't mind, could you change your avatar? I'd rather not be confusing my posts with your posts. Thanks.
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- The Theatrical Differences
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- #91762
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- Prototype Mono Pre-ANH "XP77:4EB" Edit (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91762/action/topic#91762
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- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91761/action/topic#91761
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- #91544
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- The Theatrical Differences
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I'm going to edit the first post with the new information right now.
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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
That is correct. And for what it's worth, it's never been capitalized in the titles for ROTJ.
Neil
Originally posted by: TheSessler
From what I understand of the 1977 crawl, rebel was not capitalized?
From what I understand of the 1977 crawl, rebel was not capitalized?
That is correct. And for what it's worth, it's never been capitalized in the titles for ROTJ.
Neil
And something else interesting about the ROTJ crawl that always seems to be overlooked:
In every other movie, there are 4 dots at the end ("freedom to the galaxy. . . ."; "the far reaches of space. . . ."), however Jedi only has 3: "to the galaxy . . ."
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From what I understand of the 1977 crawl, rebel was not capitalized?
...and that is reflected in my 77 crawl, what are you getting at?
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- The Theatrical Differences
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STAR WARS
Video - There was a 35mm and a 70mm print. I am unaware of any differences between the two visually. Originally, all prints had the following crawl format:
STAR
WARS
It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have
won their first victory
against the evil Galactic
Empire.
During the battle, rebel
spies managed to steal
secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the
DEATH STAR, an armored
space station with enough
power to destroy an entire
planet.
Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save
her people and restore
freedom to the galaxy. . . .
In the 1981 re-release, the crawl was altered to:
STAR
WARS
Episode IV
A NEW HOPE
It is a period of civil war.
Rebel spaceships, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Galactic Empire.
During the battle, Rebel
spies managed to steal
secret plans to the Empire's
ultimate weapon, the DEATH
STAR, an armored space
station with enough power to
destroy an entire planet.
Pursued by the Empire's
sinister agents, Princess
Leia races home aboard her
starship, custodian of the
stolen plans that can save
her people and restore
freedom to the galaxy. . . .
That is, as far as I know, the only visual difference until the 1997 SE rerelease which will not be covered here.
AUDIO - There were three different sound mixes made in 1977:
1.0 Mono Mix (35mm)
2.0 Stereo Mix (35mm)
4.2 Six-Track Mix (70mm)
The mono mix contains the most differences between the rest. If I miss anything please tell me.
- The alarms are different throughout
- Some Threepio dialogue uses alternate takes
- Aunt Beru has a different, younger-sounding person dubbing for Shelagh Fraser, whose real voice has never been heard in a Star Wars film to date
- The voice of the stormtrooper searching for the droids on Tatooine is different
- There are some added sound effects aboard the Falcon
- Tarkin's comlink communications are completely different
- Threepio's tractor-beam line is in
- "Close the blast doors!" is in
- Countdown voices aboard the Death Star and on Yavin IV are different
- Communications between ships during the final battle sound less "synthesized"
- Luke's line is "Blast it, Wedge! Where are you?!" and sounds more distressed
The stereo mix I have not heard but from what I understand the differences are as follows:
- Alarms in this version are the same as every other version besides the mono mix, as are Threepio takes, Aunt Beru's voice, the stormtrooper's voice, Falcon sound effects, Tarkin's conversations via comlink, countdown voices, oversynthesized communication voices, and the less-distressed "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?"
- The tractor beam line is gone
- "Close the blast doors!" is gone
I have no idea what differences there are in the 4.2 (or six-track) 70mm mix.
THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
Video - There were apparently some differences in video from the 70mm and 35mm versions:
In the 70mm version:
- The hard cut between the probot and Luke on the tauntaun is an optical wipe.
- After Luke wanders through the snow and falls face down, there is an optical wipe to Han instead of a straight cut.
- The bacta tank scene starts on a close-up of 2-1B and pans right to a closeup of Luke in the tank. It then cuts to FX-7 extending it's arm to the tank. There is no cut to Leia, Han and Threepio observing.
- The AT-ST in the Hoth battle has no depth to it.
- The Emperor hologram does not "tune in," it is there from the start.
- When Luke falls from Cloud City into the Millennium Falcon, the Falcon's radar dish is not added to the shot.
- The Luke/Vader "telepathy" conversation has hard cuts rather than quick dissolves
- The final scene begins with the first establishing shot of the rebel fleet, then cuts inside the Falcon for Lando to say, "Luke, we're ready for take-off" (but a different take of this was used). After Luke says (voice over), "Good luck, Lando" the scene cuts to inside the rebel cruiser where Luke says, "I'll meet you at the rendezvous, " etc. Not in this version are two more establishing shots of the fleet and an interim effects shot over which Lando says, "When we find Jabba the Hutt and that bounty hunter we'll contact you."
Audio - There were two different audio mixes - no mono mix this time:
2.0 Stereo (35mm)
4.2 Six-Track (70mm)
Differences between the two:
- On Hoth, right after C-3PO tells R2 to "Switch off," R2 gives out a little 'blurp.'
- When Luke finally collapses in the snow, he lets out a grunt as he lands on his face.
- Han says "until I can get the shelter up" instead of "until I can get the shelter built."
- Luke says an additional "Ben... Dagobah..." just before Han says "and I thought they smelled bad on the outside."
- When C-3P0 tells Luke "It's so good to see you fully functional again," Luke replies "Thanks, Threepio."
- The line "Headquarters personnel report to Command Center" is repeated three times instead of two.
- The line "The first transport is away!" is said in a different voice altogether.
- When R2 is being loaded into Luke's X-Wing, C-3PO says the word "and" before saying "do take good care of yourself."
- Han's line "Transport, this is Solo. Better take off, I can't get to you. I'll get her out on the Falcon" is followed by, "Come on!"
- In the asteroid field, after C-3PO says "Oh, this is suicide." He says, "There's nowhere to go."
- Luke says "You were lucky to get out of there" instead of "You're lucky you don't taste very good."
- Yoda makes a frightened "Ehhhhh!" sound just before Luke says "Like we're being watched" and points his blaster at him.
- Yoda says the word "Run!" before "Yes. A Jedi's strength flows from the force." The following lines "But beware the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side of the force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight" are also much louder and clearer.
- In Cloud City, after C-3PO says "That sounds like an R2 unit in there. I wonder if it..." he says "Hello?" only once instead of twice.
- Before C-3PO gets shot, a different voice says "Who are you?"
- The Imperial fleet establishing shot after the magic tree scene has a different TIE fighter sound effect.
- While C-3PO is on Chewie's back when they enter the carbon freezing chamber, the line "Now remember, Chewbacca, you have a responsibility to me, so don't do anything foolish" is louder and heard more clearly.
- During the duel, when Luke knocks Vader off of the platform, Vader lets out an "ooooh!" instead of an "aaargh!"
- Lando's line at the end, "Luke, we're ready for takeoff." is a different take.
- In the final scene, there is no tracked music from "Yoda and the Force".
{Thanks go to Neil S. Bulk and Obi-Wan Spicoli for the information on Empire}
RETURN OF THE JEDI
Video - There were two film types, 35mm and 70mm. I am at this moment unaware of any visual differences between the two.
Audio - Again, two mixes:
2.0 Stereo (35mm)
4.2 Six-Track (70mm)
Some differences between the two mixes:
- In the 70mm version, Han says, "It's alright, I can see a lot better" instead of "It's alright, trust me."
{Once again, thanks go to Neil S. Bulk and Obi-Wan Spicoli for information on Jedi}
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Well, there you have it - not entirely complete but I think you guys can fill in the gaps, unless you feel this thread is unneccesary.