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#1259153
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Hence the lack of actual crossover between MCU movies and TV series. It’s hard enough juggling multiple movie franchises, but throwing TV in the mix and attempting any kind of meaningful crossovers without handcuffing one side or the other creatively (like the first 3/4 of Agents of SHIELD Season 1, pre-Winter Soldier) has got to be nigh on impossible.

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#1259105
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

In the context of making comparisons to how Lucasfilm is running things these days, it’s cool. And hey, it’s my job to nag! 😛

Have any of the Marvel films been a mess behind the scenes the way Solo was? Fox and Sony productions don’t count.

You realize that was said by a forum moderator, right? And that both posts after it were directly responding to the mod’s question?

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#1259084
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I was going to say Thor TDW as well. Maybe Iron Man 2, though that one managed to finish up with the same director all the way through (even though they never had a finished script and the story was basically improvised the entire way through).

As far as “meddling” in general goes, you’ve got Incredible Hulk (the BTS circumstances of which led to Norton being ousted as Banner), Age of Ultron (which led to Whedon abandoning the franchise), the aforementioned Ant-Man (though once Wright left there didn’t seem to be many issues during and after filming), and you could maybe count what happened with Inhumans, too.

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#1258978
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Did not know that. The MCU seems like they had some sort of roadmap at the very least. Nobody has ever pulled off a decade’s worth of interconnected films before.

There’s a general roadmap, yes, but it’s extremely modular/flexible from everything we’ve seen. Thanos wasn’t even considered as a major villain until after Whedon decided to put him in the Avengers 1 credits scene as a nod to comic fans.

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#1258946
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Maybe because the myth of Lucas’ master plan persists, when he too was making it up as he went along?

This. It’s pretty clear that the only “plan” for the prequels were a set of bullet point events/moments he more or less forgot about until Episode III and then went “Oh shit, I still have to do X and Y and Z…”

And we all know there was no overall plan for the OT as it was being made.

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#1258873
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DougieP said:

yotsuya said:

I can see this. Abrams originally was handling the first film more like a series pilot - he was not expecting to come back and expected others to continue the story. So I can see where he and Kennedy would have plotted the arc of the trilogy. And we know some things were held over from George’s version. I think the course of IX was set during the production of TFA, though the details of the story were up to whoever did it. I hope at some point we get to find out what plot points were set at what time. It would amuse me to find out that some of the plot points in TLJ that people are so pissed about came from Lucas or Abrams.

It has been clearly stated by KK that she threw out Georges plans for the ST. Rj also confirmed that there were no plans at all for the ST moving forward after 7. Its all online. If needed, I can get links.

Fake news. They weren’t thrown out completely. They ditched some of the most ridiculous stuff (like doubling down on midichlorians with his version of the Whills), yeah, but the broad strokes regarding Luke are the same, just pushed back to VIII. I’m willing to bet more stuff will be revealed in the coming years about his outlines that will either show A) they were still more or less adhered to the way the Luke stuff was more or less adhered to, or B) they were so vague and sketchy beyond the stupid Whills/midichlorians stuff that they really couldn’t be used.

Specific quotes from the article I linked:

basically, what we got from the Rey/Luke storyline in The Last Jedi was initially supposed to be the bones for George Lucas’ Episode 7

30 years after the fall of the Empire, Luke had gone to a dark place and secluded himself in a Jedi temple on a new planet.

the initial plan for Star Wars: Episode 7 was that Luke, over the course of that movie, would rediscover his vitality and train this new Jedi.

The new Jedi was:

a new disciple named Kira (who was later renamed Rey)

And as for why Luke’s stuff was pushed back to VIII from VII:

Everyone realized that Luke Skywalker would better serve the needs of the story as the person that everyone seeks but does not find until the final scene of The Force Awakens. This allowed Han Solo more time as the mentor of the story

And if you really wanted Lucas’ full plans for the sequel trilogy, well, from George himself…

[The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world. But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force. … Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we are just cars, vehicles, for the Whills to travel around in … we’re vessels for them. And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.

I don’t think that sounds any better than anything in TFA or TLJ. Do you? Really?

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#1258866
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4k77 released
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You’re welcome, everyone.

And I’ve got to echo yotsuya’s statements - HUGE thank you to all the time, effort, money, and personal sacrifices everyone who’s worked on these amazing projects has put in, including - but not limited to! - williarob, SkyDude, ohteedee, deathstar1138, and many, many others. All Star Wars fans are in your guys’ debt!

But I do also recognize that these are hefty files for some (as I said earlier, they were for me a year ago and I still bitch about having shitty Internet today!), so I’m glad to be able to do something to help those in that boat to make the decision whether they’re going to sacrifice a not-insignificant fraction of their bandwidth allotment to effectively re-download something they’ve already acquired for an improvement that frankly amounts to 1/120th of the entire file or not, or to wait until the end of the month. (I remember those days - splitting a 50GB download across the 31st and the 1st was always a fun balancing act!)

I think it’s a significant improvement, and I think the comparison shows that, so once again, thanks to everyone involved for their hard work!

Now about that 1981 crawl scan/After Effects project that’s sitting on my hard drive…I should probably get on finishing that someday…

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#1258850
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4k77 released
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Okay, here’s the grabs. Only the crawl itself is new, the logos and flyover are the same between both the ISO and the MKV:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/0EBFNNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WGLWNNNX

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/0EB1NNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WGLGNNNX

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/0EBMNNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WGLPNNNX

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/0EBCNNNU

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/WGDLNNNX

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#1258839
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4k77 released
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JonathanArthur19 said:

Well you could be nice and it is not hard take a screenshot of both crawls and upload them. To me your just being lazy, that is not hard, just a few clicks and your done, a few more clicks to upload them, it is not a hard thing to do man, so to me that is just lazy

Well, I wish I’d seen this bitchy post before I said no one was complaining… 😠

Anyway, I’ll be home in about an hour and I’ll get the comparison caps posted around then.

It’ll be DNR 1080p MKV (old crawl) vs. DNR 1080p ISO (new crawl).

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#1258821
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4k77 released
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deathstar1138 said:

So, let me get this straight, if the crawl is improved and lot better,
then you’ll download the 40gig file anyways, but you’ll ignore anything else.

And if its not better, you’ll never find out. Ok.

Instead of constantly asking and complaining about something, be proactive
and do the work, and share it. That way others can enjoy it to. It’s not that hard.

Asking for screen cap comparisons is complaining?

Maybe they already have the MKV which they burned to a disc and they want to make sure the upgraded crawl is worth the extra 40GB hit to their bandwidth cap before getting it…?

I’m fortunate that my cap was raised significantly this year, but last year I had 200GB per month to work with before my Internet was disconnected. Not everyone can download a 40GB release that might only be a marginal upgrade compared to what they already have when that amount of data could go toward something else.

At any rate, I’ll take some screen caps myself when I get home from work and post them here for everyone to compare.

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#1258813
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Where do people go to get 35mm movie film reels?
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Psherman01 said:

Obviously I don’t think the answer is to just wait until a listing for a specific film shows up on eBay

Actually, yeah, most of the time that’s the answer.

Is it some place like private collections

Yeah, some of the prints that have been scanned were in the hands of private collectors, and there are even some private collectors who will allow one of the members of the restoration teams to view the prints but not scan them, as it’s not technically legal to own theatrical film prints of copyrighted movies. They don’t want Disney or Lucasfilm or Fox (heh…guess that’s all the same thing now) to catch wind that they’ve got it and raid their collection.

Then there are some who will allow their prints to be scanned, but not released until specific identifying characteristics of that particular print are eliminated.

But no, most of the time it’s eBay or the like, and print scanners rely on donations from people like us to acquire them and pay for the scans, since it’s not cheap.

and local archives that allow you to rent stuff out

Nope, not that I’m aware of. I don’t think theatrical film prints can be rented from any sort of archive, at least not for this purpose.

And where would I even start to look for these things in my area (or further beyond, for that matter)?

I think the above answers have mostly covered that…well…you don’t. You can scour eBay for prints to buy, and you might be able to get in with collector communities online once you have some prints in your collection, but it’s all rather underground due to the less-than-legal nature of the hobby, so I don’t know where you’d go to find said communities.

Hope some of that was helpful, and that if any of that is inaccurate someone will come along and correct me!

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#1258482
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4K83 Released
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You_Too said:

I’m not sure if the SWE version was included in the myspleen release (is it the 1993 LD audio?) but I think I’m just gonna settle with the optical for now, it sounds great!

The SWE is the Special Widescreen Edition laserdisc (the set - along with the Japanese Special Collection - that had the 1985 remix for ANH). It’s still the 1983 theatrical stereo (the same mix as the optical audio from the print that’s track 1 in 4K83).

Schorman says the best-sounding LD of the 1983 mix is the earlier US pan-and-scan LD, while hairy_hen is recommending the US Special Widescreen Edition LD for the same mix - neither is included in 4K83’s MKV or ISO releases, but Schorman has made 4K83 synced versions of these tracks (along with the Japanese pan-and-scan and Japanese Special Collection versions) available over on the 4K## forums.

The 1993 LD audio is a remix and not the 1983 theatrical stereo, which is why it’s also included in 4K83. ESB and ROTJ didn’t get remixes for the JSC/SWE like ANH did, but they did 1993 (and ANH got another remix).

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#1258413
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4K83 Released
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hairy_hen said:

The print audio has the correct frequency balance for the soundtrack since it has been recorded through a Dolby A decoder. Most of the laserdisc versions are extremely bright and are too shrill in comparison. However, the print audio is less dynamic than any of the laserdiscs, since stereo optical on 35mm film has very little headroom.

Soundtracks made with Dolby A noise reduction (which includes all the mixes for the Star Wars films except the mono versions) sound much too bright in their undecoded state. It is apparent that none of the early laserdiscs have been Dolby A decoded, hence their excessive high frequency emphasis. The RotJ soundtrack from the Special Widescreen Edition does have the correct frequency balance, so it is likely that it has been Dolby A decoded.

The best possible version of the 35mm stereo mix can be produced by using the early US laserdisc (since it has the most dynamic range) and adjusting its EQ to match the print/SWE versions. That way you get the best of both worlds; the greater dynamics and the correct frequency balance. This is exactly what I did for the 35mm soundtrack on Despecialized v2.5, but I haven’t yet put out one like this that is synced to 4K83.

I will release a track like that at some point soon, but for the moment, I would recommend using the SWE version, because it sounds extremely similar to the print audio, but with better quality.

Do any of the SW '77 stereo mix laserdisc audio tracks have the correct Dolby A-decoded frequency balance as far as you know, or do they all sound similarly over-bright? (As in, any of the pre-JSC remix audio tracks.)

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#1258292
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The Last Jedi WITHOUT Cantobight
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Frankly, I think cutting Canto Bight and DJ out entirely cripples Finn’s character too much, since he’d basically vanish from the story for a massive stretch of time. I don’t think you can get it down any more than Hal did for Legendary (which poppasketti replicated for Rekindled) without it feeling like a fan edit and not a finished film (much like attempts I’ve seen to remove Jar Jar entirely from TPM or removing the Ewoks entirely from ROTJ).

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#1258179
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4K83 Released
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The Eastman print is a show print struck directly from the negative that was very rarely screened, so it has significantly more detail than any release print and is in wonderful condition, which is why it only took 6 months to restore.

The LPP is a couple more generations away from the negative, but should have all the color timing detail from the interpositive/internegative steps preserved that are likely just not there in the Eastman print.

Also, the LPP wasn’t scanned at 4K and is missing frames, plus is more damaged, so its value is primarily as a color reference to punch up the Eastman (4K83) print if people are so inclined.

But 4K83 is an accurate preservation of the Eastman show print, which is why (I think) the decision was made to preserve the colors as stored on it versus matching it to something like the LPP for the primary 4K83 release.

Williarob or ohteedee can correct me if I’m mistaken on any of this, of course.

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#1257907
Topic
The Last Jedi: Rekindled (RELEASED!)
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Honestly, both times I’ve watched this edit so far, I forgot about Phasma entirely after Holdo’s kamikaze attack - shows just how much of an impression the character leaves! 😉 I feel bad for Gwendoline Christie, she deserved a better part.

Honestly, the Phasma situation is the last major TFA/TLJ issue that I think has yet to be truly solved in any edit. (I’m not counting edits that cut out all of the Finn and Rose Star Destroyer subplot, since that creates more problems than it solves for me.)