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RoccondilRinon said:Old joke is old.
4chan memes creeping into OT.com? Oh no ... the virus is spreading ...
Janskeet, you really don't need to make this many posts in a row - if you have something else to say, you can always edit your post. There's a "Quick edit" button right below the "view profile" button.
And don't worry about getting banned, you won't be. If you want a burned copy, just PM me and I'll mail you one for free, which is what I meant by "hook you up" earlier :-)
AUDIO_TS folders will have nothing in them unless it's a DVD-Audio (which have nothing in the VIDEO_TS folders unless it's a hybrid DVD-Video/Audio, which most of them are).
Those are all the necessary DVD files (though technically all you *need* is a VIDEO_TS folder), but I was under the impression that the RapidShare download was an ISO file. You didn't extract that with WinRar, did you? IIRC, that causes problems. If it works in PowerDVD, fine, but don't try to burn those folders if you have the ISO file somewhere - THAT'S what you need to burn.
And I think his intention there was to match the movement of the original display, but fix the time (which was wildly inconsistent originally) and update the look in general a bit. I don't think he was too concerned about the speed at which the DS was travelling. Besides, at the real rate it would have barely appeared to be moving at all, which isn't good for dramatic purpose. It's simply artistic license.
And I don't recall that R2 shot ever being replaced. Besides, the DVD-9 is the final version, and Ady himself has stated there will be no further changes to ANH. On top of that, he's lost the original files, so the DVD-9 that you now have is the best ANH:R will ever look (which is pretty fantastic in my opinion).
True, but that's the only thing they know about the future. There may be other set-in-stone things Spock "Prime" could tell them about, but I doubt that he would. And it wouldn't matter if they stopped the supernova in the "alternate" timeline - the timelines would stay the same. They just might prevent a possible *third* timeline from developing, assuming the Nero/Spock scenario played out the same way again (which I doubt it would).
And Skyjedi - the current Blu-Ray releases have the theatrical "Motion Picture," "Wrath of Khan" and "Undiscovered Country," but the Director's Cuts of those three will be released on Blu-Ray in the future. (which means TMP's new effects will have to be re-done in HD. Why the fuck didn't they do it properly to begin with? Ugh.)
I haven't bought it yet (I'll wait for a price drop), but I really like that the TOS Blu-Ray contains both the remastered AND original episodes.
I think it was very clearly stated in the film that this is an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE - they haven't wiped anything away. The "Prime" universe still exists, and only 2 things were changed in the "Prime" universe because of this movie:
1) Romulus has been destroyed
2) Spock is presumed dead (though he's actually in the "Alternate" universe)
If they want to, they can still make TNG-era and beyond stories set in the original universe because it was NOT destroyed - it still exists. There are just two different versions of how things went - the "Prime" universe, where Enterprise, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, and Voyager all took place, and the new "Alternate" universe, where the Abrams movie and any of its sequels will take place. (And I guess Enterprise still took place in this new universe, since it is set before 2233 ... )
And while Spock "Prime" told Alternate Kirk that he could under no circumstances tell Alternate Spock that he exists, he was just saying this so A-Kirk would let himself become friends with A-Spock instead of the two hating each other. The very fact that P-Spock spoke to A-Spock at the end of the film with no "universe-ending paradox" proves that this is a branching timeline, and the original was not destroyed. Hell, someone from after Romulus is destroyed could theoretically go back in time to when the Narada attacked the Kelvin and stop that from happening, thus destroying the "Alternate" universe and restoring the timeline to its original state.
But I doubt that'll ever happen, because that would truly invalidate the new universe the way people like Hunter claim the new universe invalidates the "Prime" universe (which it doesn't).
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Oh, and Skyjedi, I'm glad you were able to enjoy the new film despite your strong predisposition against it. I don't know what's up Hunter's ass, but it clearly wasn't up yours like I assumed it was :-)
Are we all forgetting that this is an ISO image he's downloading? All you have to do is mount it and run your DVD player software. Hell, some DVD player software can read the ISO without mounting it at all.
C3PX said:Octorox said:but he wrote the scripts for the OT as well, didn't he?
No.
To clarify this, he wrote ANH, but had it polished by several writer friends of his that went uncredited.
He did NOT write ESB - he gave Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan the basic gist of the story and they wrote it. He got a "story by" credit.
He officially "co-wrote" ROTJ with Lawrence Kasdan, but I think he may have had a bit more influence than Kasdan on ROTJ.
He wrote TPM and ROTS, and had Jonathan Hales revise his AOTC script (Lucas got a co-writer and story by credit for AOTC).
And I think Michael Beihn would have been AWESOME as Jango!
Janskeet said:I wish this was simpler. I wish it was just one big file you download and then once it's finished it is ready to play! I'm going to try this one more time before calling it a night. If I can't get it to work, perhaps Adywan, you could mail me the DVDs? I will gladly pay the full price plus a little profit as long as it is reasonable.
If you keep having problems, send me a PM and I'll hook you up (as long as you're looking for the NTSC DVD-9 and not the PAL).
Buy a short-term Rapidshare subscription, and download 5-10 parts at a time. That's how I do it when I use Rapidshare (very rarely, though).
All you need to do is download all the RAR parts. Then, once you have ALL of them, put them ALL in the same folder, and open the VERY FIRST ONE (part.01.rar or whatever it is) with WinRAR or UnRarX if you're a Mac guy like me. It'll automatically un-rar all of them into one nice, neat ISO for you.
Then you burn the ISO to a dual-layer DVD using ImgBurn (or Toast/Disk Utility/something of the sort for Mac), and you're good to go :-)
You put that post in the ROTJ Classic Edition thread, actually :-)
And check out Demonoid. Or Linktalk - they claim you need to have 20 forum posts to see the links, but all you really need to do is reply in the thread and the links will become visible.
vaderios said:
-Angel
That's AWESOME! Why do so many PT shots have the same color with so little variation? Perhaps that's part of why the colors were so fucked for the 2004 DVD - there are a lot of shots that used to have nice color variation that now look like they were shot black and white and had a color filter placed over it, just like the above AOTC shot.
AxiaEuxine said:okay now, I realize there is epic hatred of the prequels on these boards but you cant possibly hold them in the same league as the holiday special. come on now.
I'd watch the holiday special before I'd watch the prequels again. At least the holiday special is funny in its own demented way.
DarkFather said:I'm more interested in a theatrical 3D release of all the films.
Really? Why?
Fucked-up color timing. And in that shot it was never really blue, it was always off-white.
And yes there will be a Blu-Ray release, but I think it'll be identical to the 04 DVDs, just in HD.
C3PX said:Also not sure why they changed the look of the Romulans. I always kind of liked the way they looked before.
I wanted to chime in on this.
It's explained in the "Countdown" comic (I know, I know) that they looked just like any other Romulans, but when Romulus was destroyed Nero and his crew shaved their heads and tattooed themselves in mourning. You can see when Nero shows Pike the hologram of his wife that she has hair and no tattoos.
The real-world explanation was to differentiate them from the Vulcans for new audiences. But my point is that there's a canon explanation as well.
I left this thread a while ago because I couldn't deal with the wealth of violent negativity toward a film no one had even seen, or even given a chance.
I came back for one reason, and after this post I'll be gone again.
I just got back from the midnight showing of "Star Trek" ... and it was fantastic. I can't see anyone, even hardcore Trekkies, not liking this film. Nearly everything about it was good.
What wasn't? Possible spoilers ahead:
- Spock and Uhura as a couple - felt forced and wasn't needed.
- Scotty's little midget frend - WTF?
- Scotty getting stuck in the ... um ... fuel tube? Coolant? Whatever it was.
- How Kirk randomly happened to get marooned on the same planet Nimoy-Spock was on
- The weird creatures on said planet
- Tyler Perry
What did I like?
- Karl Urban as McCoy. PERFECT.
- Chris Pine as Kirk. Took the essence of Shatner's performance and stripped away the cheese and overacting.
- Zachary Quinto as Spock. PERFECT.
- Oddly enough, Simon Pegg as Scotty. While he was used mostly as comic relief in this, I enjoyed his performance and think he'll get a better chance to shine in future installments.
- The way they handled the "alternate universe" stuff.
- The "origin story" aspect, which, for once, didn't feel forced at all
- Eric Bana as Nero (who is criminally underused in the film)
- Captain Pike
MAJOR SPOILER AHEAD!
- The destruction of Vulcan, which shocked me and angered me at first ... but then I realized that that was exactly the emotional response that I should have had to it. I wasn't angry at the writers for deciding to do this - I was angry at Nero. Plus, it worked very well to establish the fact that in this "Trek" universe, nothing is "safe."
MAJOR SPOILERS OVER.
All in all, I think this sums it up best:
A friend of mine, who had never seen any "Star Trek," who is a die-hard "Star Wars" fan, who detests the very idea of "Star Trek," walked out of the movie with me saying, "That was really good. Do you have the old TV show? I'm actually kinda interested now."
If that's not a testament to the success of this film, I don't know what is. If it can get new fans interested in the original show, I can't see how the argument that this film will ruin the franchise or anything like that holds any water at all.
Highly recommended to everyone, "Trek" fan or no.
Oh, and in case you're wondering - this is now #2 of my favorite "Trek" films, right behind "Khan" and just a hair better than "Undiscovered Country." I can't wait to see what the next films have in store (though I do hope they return to the themes of exploration and discovery, which were vaguely touched upon in this film and heavily foreshadowed at the end).
--EDIT: Zombie84 pretty much said the exact same thing I said, but much more efficiently. I'll leave my original post here anyway. Just goes to show you can't write a really long response without expecting someone else to beat you to it :-) --
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The thing is, "Star Wars" DID start out as a remake of "The Hidden Fortress." So much so that Lucas considered getting the rights to the film in order to avoid a "Fistful of Dollars" scenario (Kurosawa sued Leone for plagiarizing "Yojimbo," which he did). That was '73, '74, something around there.
The reason the final product is so different is that when Lucas' "Apocalypse Now" project fell through, the vast majority of his screenplay/story for "Apocalypse" ended up being the story for "Star Wars." Eventually, "Apocalypse" would end up being completely rewritten and made by Lucas' friend Francis Ford Coppola.
Mix in a few original ideas here and there (to be fair, most of Lucas' "Apocalypse" was fairly original, but in this sense I mean not taken from another work, his own or someone else's), and he ended up with a screenplay very different from "The Hidden Fortress," but with clear echoes of that film.
So "Star Wars" DID start out as a "Hiden Fortress" remake, but in the end we got a film that was vastly different from "Fortress," but clearly inspired by it.
The argument does hold some weight, but not enough for anyone to claim that the final product was a remake of anything.
By the way, if you haven't read "The Secret History of 'Star Wars,'" I highly recommend it. While it's not the most well-written work, it has a wealth of very good, very accurate, highly-researched information in it. Every fan of the OT should read it. Much of the above I learned from the first 100 pages of that book. (I need to go buy it - you can get the first 100 pages online for free, so sadly that's all I've read. I really want to find it and read it in its entirety.)
Are you agreeing with Axia, or the other way around? (I hope it's the other way around ... )
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ANH - 8/10
ESB - 10/10
ROTJ - 5/10
If it weren't for the scenes with Luke (minus anything on Tatooine), Vader (I think I'm one of the few that don't mind that he was turned into a lackey for the Emperor since, well, that's what he was in ANH - in ESB he kinda "went rogue" so to speak) and the Emperor (God bless you, Ian McDiarmid), I'd give it a 3/10. Nothing else about that movie is good.
And no, the Leia/Luke thing did NOT tie the movie up nicely. It was a bad decision that ruined the franchise. Why? Because it made NO SENSE at all!
Even with extensive fan editing (which I'm planning to do), I don't think ROTJ can get much better than a 7/10 without being re-written and re-shot from the ground up.
The sad thing is, I used to like it when I was a kid ... but I liked TPM when it came out, too ...
And in case you were curious:
TPM: 4/10
AOTC: 1/10
ROTS: 3/10 (it gets 2 points for the Order 66 scenes ONLY)
I'd ask to see the outlines for the rest of the series that were written while ESB was in production/being written. I'd really like to know where everything was supposed to go before Lucas booted Gary Kurtz and fucked everything up just to spite him ...
It's all your fault, vbangle! Good job!
;-)
Stinky-Dinkins said:ChainsawAsh said:That's good news! I really hope this project can be salvaged.
I'm just sick of people coming in and asking "So is there any progress?" or "When will this be released?" when they could easily look at, say, the last two pages at the very least and know that they're just going to get shit for asking that and no real answers.
Well, I asked and I got a real answer so put that in your pipe and smoke it. PUT IT IN YOUR PIPE MOTHERFUCKER!
Touche. :-)
Donation sent, Ady! I couldn't send too much, but I hope what I could send helps.
That's good news! I really hope this project can be salvaged.
I'm just sick of people coming in and asking "So is there any progress?" or "When will this be released?" when they could easily look at, say, the last two pages at the very least and know that they're just going to get shit for asking that and no real answers.