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#360064
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Janskeet said:

I just finished watching the purist version. Well, I didn't really watch it, more like skimmed through the parts I wanted to see if they remained the same. I'll have to say, I prefer the full/DVD-9 version. I didn't realize how lame the lightsaber battle is with no backround music now. Especially now that it is edited longer with less breaks. The picture of the purist version seems a little lower quality than the DVD-9/full version. Am I just imagining things or is the purist version less color corrected and lower resolution than the DVD-9 version?

Well, the Purist version is a DVD-5, not a DVD-9, so yeah, it's not going to look as good.  DVD-9s have 8.5 gigs to use, while DVD-5s only have 4.7 gigs, which means anything on a single-layer DVD (aka DVD-5) will be more heavily compressed to fit than if it were on a DVD-9.  That's the whole point of releasing a DVD-9, even though most people don't want to bother with or can't do dual-layer burning - it's better quality.

Ady didn't spend that much time on the Purist version, if I remember correctly - it was mostly done to appease fans who were unhappy with some changes to the full version (specifically music changes and such).  Apparently there was one other big reason that he's being all secretive about.  At any rate, because it wasn't "his" verison, so to speak, he didn't release a DVD-9 of it.  And since the original ANH:R files no longer exist, that's the best the "Purist" version will ever look (which is fine by me since I don't really care about it that much).

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#360056
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LOST
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I'm fairly certain Juliet's dead now.  After all, Elizabeth Mitchell was a major character in the new "V" pilot, and if that goes to series she won't have time to work on "Lost" anyway.

I think Locke as Locke is dead, and the next season Locke as the Man in Black is going to be the major villain.

And I love how distrustful Richard has been of Locke, but I'm kinda surprised he just went with it as long as he did.

All in all, I think it was a fantastic finale, though the last shot made me absolutely furious.  Guess we'll have to wait for the final season now ... so sad, it's almost over ...

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#359965
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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No, he promotes him when he kills Ozzel, then says "You are in command now, Admiral Piett."  When he says it later, he's reminding him of how he got promoted, basically saying "I can just as easily do the same to you."

And Admiral is a Navy rank, while General is the equivalent Army rank.  General Veers commands ground troops and walking tanks (Army), Admiral Piett commands a space-based aircraft carrier (Navy).

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#359940
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Abrams is Destroying Star Trek like Lucas has Destroyed Star Wars
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Ripplin said:

Oh, and how old was Spock's mother supposed to have been in the movie, anyway? (and in turn, how old was Spock in relation to her age?) The guy that played Spock is 6 years younger than her. :p They can wrinkle up Winona Ryder, but uh...well, I found it weird. She looked her age, which isn't even 40 yet, just a bit weathered.

It's because they cut a scene with Winona Ryder and baby Spock.  That's why they originally cast Winona Ryder - they figured it would be easier to cast a younger actress and "age" her later than cast two actresses.  If the baby Spock/mother scene hadn't been in the script, they would have cast an older actress.

And Captain Pike was indeed a great character.  I would've liked to have seen him as Captain in at least one more movie.  After all, Pike was supposed to be the captain on the original show before Jeffrey Hunter quit when "The Cage" pilot was rejected.

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#359939
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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AxiaEuxine said:

Dont all of you hate the PT becuase it wasnt what you thought Star Wars was? And now you want to reinvent it?

And finally comparing Star Trek and Star Wars is just ridiculous, they are completely different from one another.

Why is it so hard to accept that we honestly feel that the PT were BAD MOVIES?  That's it!  They weren't good.  We didn't like them because they weren't good.  You can disagree, that's fine, but three important things:

1) Don't lump us all in the same category.  There are plenty here who don't mind the PT.

2) You don't need to turn EVERYTHING into a personal attack against you.  Just because we dislike the PT doesn't mean we're bashing you because you like it.

3) It's not just the PT.  ROTJ sucks, too.

And finally, here's the reason for the Star Trek comparisons:

The new Star Trek movie takes place before any of the other ones (minus the Enterprise series).  Therefore, we can compare its success in telling a story before the others to the PT's success in doing something similar.  The new Star Trek succeeded where the Star Wars prequels failed.

And we know that Star Trek and Star Wars are very different.  I hate Star Trek fans that hate Star Wars just because it's not Star Trek, and vice versa.  I love both.

Now.  Back on topic!  :-)

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#359816
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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It never bothered me.  I'm in film school for editing right now, and it bugs the shit out of me when other students in my classes show their stuff and feel the need to show EVERY little action that gets a character from point A to B to C - we don't need to see every little detail, we get it.  People are smarter than filmmakers in general like to think they are, in my experience.

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#359785
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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You're not getting it - I know there's a horizon line, I'm just saying we wouldn't see a division between the clouds and ground as shown in sgdelta's mockup.  I don't get why you can't seem to differentiate between the artistic idea of a horizon line from a perspective standpoint and a visual, actual HORIZON that you can see which divides the ground and the sky.

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#359774
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I know there's always a horizon line in terms of cinematography and perspective, I'm just saying we wouldn't see it the same way on Bespin since there's no ground to differentiate between the clouds.  By definition, a "horizon line" is where the ground meets the sky, correct?  Well, if there's no ground, how can we see a traditional horizon line?

Anyway, I don't see a problem with that shot - it doesn't feel off to me at all (I'm referring to Vaderios' mockup, not the original).

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#359770
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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sgdelta1771 said:

...more visible horizon has been added...

Isn't Bespin a gas giant?  As such, there would be no horizon, correct?  I really don't remember if there's a horizon in any Bespin shots (and I certainly don't know for sure if you can see a horizon in a gas giant, I've never been to one).

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#359769
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Ideas Thread: for... The Dark Knight edits
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Ah, see, therein lies the core of why we disagree.  Note that I'm extrapolating from your post, if I'm wrong please tell me, but this is my understanding.

You (and many others) feel that fan edits, if made at all, should be made to fix mistakes and problems.

I (and many others) feel that fan edits should be made when someone dislikes something about a film, and they feel that they can improve upon it.

I'm sorry if you got the impression that I don't want to discuss things, but that's what I got from your post:

"People I can't believe you want to re-edit a perfect movie like TDK."

This statement implies that you are inherently against any change at all to said "perfect" movie, and I was just trying to get you to understand the reasoning behind said changes.  Admittedly, I may have been a bit carried away, but your arguments against my points seemed, to me, to be little more than "Well, your complaint is unfounded because I can explain it!"  I know there are explanations for these things, and I don't think they hold any water.  That's all.

The reason I was so stand-offish in my arguments was that it seemed to me like you were simply trying to convince people not to edit TDK at all, which I feel is pointless since A) it's already been done and B) it will be done again.

And with fan edits, EVERYTHING is about opinion and personal taste.  That's why there are so many different fan edits.  If you disagree with something in a fan edit that's being discussed here, bringing it up is good and brings about healty discussion.  But when someone is trying to argue against the very existence of an edit, as I felt you were, the entire discussion is pointless since that person's never going to convince the editor not to edit it and the editor will never be able to convince that person that editing this particular film isn't somehow sacriligeous.

I apologize for coming across as being rude.  That wasn't my intention.  I posted my last comment after getting into a heated argument with my jackass roommate, so some of that anger bled over into my post.  Sorry about that.

Whaddaya say we agree to disagree?  :-)

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#359759
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Ideas Thread: for... The Dark Knight edits
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1. Um ... yes, it IS impossible.  Latent fingerprints are oil prints left by human secretions on the finger, which you can only get if you combine the oil with something else ("dusting for prints" being the most common, but a process similar to fumigation is also used).  What they do in the movie is scan a 3D computer image, probably with lasers, and combine the shards into the original shape of the bullet.  There would be no possible way for this or any similar technique to tell the difference between the human secretions making up the print itself and the physical body of the bullet.  Plus, the physical act of firing a bullet would burn off the oils in the chamber, and even if it didn't I find it incredibly hard to believe that the oils would be left after the bullet goes through a CONCRETE wall and fragments into hundreds of tiny shards.

2. Saying that "well, there are other things in the movie that are impossible, so this other impossible thing must be okay" is ridiculous.  So if I made a movie that involved faster-than-light travel in spacecraft that had artificial gravity with no centrifugal force, with humans travelling on that ship, with sound detectable in space, would it be okay if a human goes outside the ship and is able to function in space without a spacesuit?  It's impossible, but hey, so is faster-than-light travel, artificial gravity with no centrifugal force, and sound in space, so that makes functioning in a vacuum okay, right?

The examples you used don't annoy me because they're done in a way as to make it feel plausible.  And for the record, I thought the "eject-a-batpod" thing was retarded and impossible as well, but there's no way to do anything about that.  I thought the same thing about the "flying on rooftops" part of BB, too (actually, I disliked most of that chase sequence, now that I think about it).

3. Where do you suggest his voice changer is located?  His mouth is out in the open.  It works for Scarecrow because he can have it in front of his mouth under his mask.  But Batman's mouth isn't covered, so where's this magic voice changer?  Is it in his throat?

Besides, I said the voice didn't bother me, so why are you attacking my opinion on that?

I really don't understand why we're having this argument.  Are you trying to use these points to make a case against any fan edits of TDK?  If so, you're not doing a good job at all.  Here's why people make fan edits:

They don't like a part of a movie, so they change it.  That's it.  If you disagree, then fine, but saying other people's dislikes are invalid because you can justify them in your mind is kind of egotistical and just makes you look like a jerk.

And as for CSI - yes, that show is HIGHLY unrealistic.  All three of them are.  I can't count how many times they took a CCTV camera, that would NEVER have resolution higher than 720x480, and manage to "enhance" it so much that you can see a reflection in a person's eye when you can barely make out his face in the original image.  THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.  And it BUGS THE SHIT OUT OF ME.  There's no way to get any more resolution out of that image than was there to begin with.  You can "enhance" film a lot better than you can digital or analog video, but even that has its limits.

There are a lot of other things on that show that are entirely impossible, but I don't really feel like typing anymore.

My whole point was, if you don't think there should be a fan edit of TDK, great - don't make one and don't download any.  But I don't see why you need to attack people for not sharing that opinion.  I never attacked anyone who decided to edit "Blade Runner" or the first two LOTR movies (ROTK does, however, need a good hybrid of the theatrical and extended versions.  The EE's of the first two are perfect in my opinion).  I just won't download the edits.

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#359746
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JasonN's PT FanEdits (Attack of the Federation, Twilight of the Republic, &amp; The Black Knight Rises) (Released) ** Revised V3 Cuts In The Works
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Jason, what do you think about cutting the library scene and the "right where it's supposed to be" reference?  Those two things really do make the whole Kamino subplot more confusing in your edit.  If all he has to go on is the name, and it's been erased from the Archives, how does he know where it is?  Better to assume he got the location from the Archives.  It doesn't really hurt anything in my opinion, it just helps the understanding of that subplot.

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#359715
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Ideas Thread: for... The Dark Knight edits
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In response to your post, Jedi Dark Knight:

1. It's IMPOSSIBLE to get a fingerprint from a shattered bullet like that.  Plain and simple.  I don't care how advanced your computer is, that is just plain stupid and ignorant.  And I hate that you reference CSI, because THAT program has ALWAYS done incredibly impossible "forensic" work with computers.

2. I just didn't like the sonar thing.  I felt it was weird, and how could he possibly do that to all cell phones in Gotham, and how could it work on the level the Joker is on?  Does the Joker have a cell phone?  Really?

I understand that Batman is supposed to have a lot of SUPER INCREDIBLE BADASS TECHNOLOGY, but that doesn't excuse when the technology is only used as a deus ex machina, and it's even worse when said technology is completely impossible.

And what voice changer?  He doesn't have a voice changer - how could he?  He makes his voice deeper and gravelly on purpose so people don't connect him with Bruce Wayne, which I'm fine with.  I've never had a problem with his voice in BB or TDK.

The ONLY things I'd ever want to change about TDK:

- Cut Scarecrow's "Not my diagnosis," and modulate his voice while the mask is on to match his behind-the-mask voice in BB
- Get rid of the fingerprint-bullet B.S., but you'd have to find a way to get him to the apartment outside the parade that is somehow less contrived than the fingerprint-bullet.
- Cut the sonar thing

That's it.  I love everything else about the movie.  And the problems I have with it are outweighed by the good in the movie, so I don't give a rat's ass whether anyone re-edits it or not.  But if someone did, and they only changed those three things, I'd download it and check it out.

Besides, I don't get trying to convince people not to edit it.  I hate the idea of editing "Blade Runner," the Final Cut is perfect, but a bunch of people have done it.  I just won't download them because I'm fine with the movie the way it is.