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- I didn't like The Force Awakens. Should I see The Last Jedi in theaters? (NO SPOILERS)
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Yeah, I don’t think you’ll like TLJ very much either.
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Yeah, I don’t think you’ll like TLJ very much either.
It’s not even that. I’d say go see for yourself, but…don’t.
It’s cool, sorry if I was a little snippy. I’ve been spending too much time wading through the cesspool that is the TLJ review thread…
I’m not even sure the camera sensors had a wide enough colorspace for HDR to be doable.
There are two. Right here on the front page of this subforum, you don’t even have to scroll down very far to find them. Both have “4K” in the title.
So, uh, is this the good thread now? I think the other one just increased my risk of ocular cancer by about 200%.
Anyway, that’s a great Q&A that goes a decent way toward explaining Rian’s thought processes going into TLJ. I can’t wait for his audio commentary track.
(Sidenote: I wonder how doable it would be to edit and sync JJ’s TFA commentary to the Restructured edit similarly to how the SE commentaries were edited to sync to Despecialized…)
Shit, yeah. Hope he’s alright…
The cores of the blades were a little off, but they felt more “solid” to me than usual in this one.
I do agree about the wipes, though.
I’m fine with either saber, though the blue one does kind of give up the “illusion” game as we just saw it destroyed minutes earlier.
I’d like to see it replaced with the ROTJ green saber just as an experiment to see if it works, though. But the practical on-set glow effect might make that impossible to pull off convincingly.
Just one change to the Luke projection sequence make Luke’s lightsaber green instead of blue throw the audience off
You’d need to change the hilt to the ROTJ one too, then. I’m actually not against the idea if it can be done, but the hilt definitely needs to change if the blade color is changed.
Yeah, that’s actually something I’d like to do someday, too.
The problem with the scene was Hux going along with the joke, made him look stupid and started to look like a comedy skit.
Right, which my proposed edit of the scene would remedy while still keeping a bit of humor.
2K is barely any higher resolution than 1080p and the vast majority of digital projectors in movie theaters are 2K.
2.39:1 1080p = 1920x817
2.39:1 cinema 2K = 2048x856
Looks pretty frakkin’ good to me!
Oh right, I misread your post as saying the opposite somehow. My bad.
I actually have (in my humble opinion) a great and pretty simple idea for the Hux “hold” bit.
Hux starts his big speech, then partway through it we cut to Poe’s cockpit where we see the “loading bar.” When it finishes, Poe attacks.
You lose all the “tooling” stuff, but the humor is still there since Poe now cuts off Hux’s speechifying before he has a chance to finish. You can use the cut to the cockpit to stitch together the two separate longer bits of Hux’s speech, making it seem like he was never interrupted by the “I’ll hold” part.
Whaddaya think?
That may depend on what Hux was saying monologue-wise, which I can’t remember. What was he saying that wasn’t a reaction to Poe’s lines?
It could work though, but at the same time, it might be kinda weird to have Poe silent, but if the loading bar and Hux scene switching is fast enough, edit wise, it may work.Yeah, that could work. I was originally planning to just cut from them seeing a single fighter approaching to Poe’s ship boosting and then beginning his attack. That would mean just no joke but would establish a consistent tone since you get a sacrifice a few minutes later.
That’d probably work too, but I wouldn’t cut the humor to the bone. Toning it down considerably is a necessity IMO, but you can’t get rid of it all. Comic relief is necessary for the film, the theatrical cut just takes it too far.
I had this in mind after seeing it the first time and paid attention to the dialogue the second time around. I think it can work. It means that Poe doesn’t actually have to stall him for very long, though.
But there’s two chunks of Hux’s dialogue that can be kept. First, he starts with a whole monologue about how the Republic is gone and they’ll soon crush the Resistance, then when he’s done is Poe’s first “comeback.” Hux falters for a moment, asks if Poe can hear him, then when it’s confirmed that he can, Poe goes back into another “The Resistance is at its end” bit, but is cut off by Poe.
My thought is to join the two iterations of his “destroying the Resistance” speech (they’re different enough that they could be made into one long speech without seeming repetitive), and when Poe cuts him off in the theatrical cut of the second one, have that be where the timer runs out and Poe launches at the Star Destroyer.
I don’t have the transcribed dialogue handy, so I might be wrong, but I think it can work.
Well, your post (“The Last Jedi added”) implied that you’d done an edit of it already, which is against forum rules until it’s available on DVD/Blu-Ray.
I actually have (in my humble opinion) a great and pretty simple idea for the Hux “hold” bit.
Hux starts his big speech, then partway through it we cut to Poe’s cockpit where we see the “loading bar.” When it finishes, Poe attacks.
You lose all the “tooling” stuff, but the humor is still there since Poe now cuts off Hux’s speechifying before he has a chance to finish. You can use the cut to the cockpit to stitch together the two separate longer bits of Hux’s speech, making it seem like he was never interrupted by the “I’ll hold” part.
Whaddaya think?
I just ripped my Blu-Rays and put my MKVs in that order on my hard drive.
Yes, I own all 6 seasons of TCW and the movie on Blu-Ray. Sue me, I love 80% of the show. (Not the movie though, I’m just a completist. And someday plan to do a TCW series edit that will include footage from it.)
For TPM, yeah. AOTC and ROTS were shot digitally at 1080p24.
Ryan said:
I even remember the movie ‘A Series of Unfortunate Events’ in the theater and the boom mic kept dropping down into the picture all throughout the movie. Then on the DVD release, they must have digitally removed the boom mic as I didn’t see it drop into picture like in the theater.Wasn’t sure if this was answered yet, but that was because the theater had the wrong mask/lens setup. It has been known to happen, but I’ve never witnessed it. Same thing can happen on movie home releases if they screw it up.
Are you talking film or digital? I know that movie was on film as the theater hadn’t been converted to digital yet.
I’ve never heard of a mask/lens setup in the theater that you are talking about. But I could clearly see that a boom mic kept dropping down in the picture throughout the movie. If the boom mic was caught on film in the picture as it was filmed, then I don’t really see what the theater could/would do about it.
Though I know they fixed it for the DVD release.
Any theater showing a “flat” (as in, 1.85:1) film on 35mm has to do the masking themselves unless the film was shot with a hard matte. So yeah, if it was film, that was 100% a projectionist misaligning the masking.
I started reading the Aftermath books after watching TFA because I really wanted to like the movie more. I bought all three after Rogue One. … I can now say those books are terrible! I held my nose through a book and a half before I saw the TLJ. I am done.
For the record, the Aftermath trilogy won’t do shit to help you understand the context of the sequel trilogy. Claudia Gray’s Bloodline is what you’re looking for.
You’ll never get AOTC and ROTS in 4K. If that ever happens, it’ll just be an upscale, as they were shot in 1080p (not even 2K, and not really even 1080p due to the letterboxing).
NEW LINKS coming friday! The Last Jedi added.
How? It isn’t available on DVD or Blu-ray yet.