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#1175327
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

Sorry that I keep tweet spamming this thread but it’s not my fault nobody writes articles anymore.

https://twitter.com/AlogoAgogo/status/966663128736940032

After every massacre, there’s inevitable talk about Australian gun laws post-1996 and how successful they’ve been at reducing gun violence, homicides and suicides. Also a lot of misinformation about ‘bans’ and such.

Here’s what actually happened and what it means today:

https://twitter.com/AlogoAgogo/status/966663187138359298

Undoubtedly true. But an interesting thing has happened. The bad guys with guns, for the last 20 years, have been using them almost exclusively on one another. No one seriously worries about being shot in public any more. There’s no armed guards in schools.

https://twitter.com/AlogoAgogo/status/966663198769213441

Oh, almost forgot. Aussies still watch the exact same movies and play the same ‘violent’ video games as the US, yet no more massacres. It was both the guns AND the person holding it that was the cause. But no longer.

This all sounds like precisely the type of common sense legislation that we need in the US, and I can’t see one legitimate argument against any of it.

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#1175326
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Mrebo said:

CatBus said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’ll admit I only skimmed a bit but I’ve still not heard a single argument why a civilian should be able to buy an assault weapon like an AR-15.

Well, here’s how I’ve seen the argument go in the past. First off, they’d say the “assault weapon” terminology is a meaningless term invented by the anti-gun crowd to make guns seem scary and dangerous. And they’re half right on that front. The “assault weapon” terminology is a meaningless term designed to make guns seem scary and dangerous, but it was invented by the gun industry as a way of selling more guns because “scary and dangerous” makes them more appealing to certain target audiences.

So, rather than defining guns you can’t buy based on meaningless marketing copy, you come up with arguments for guns you can buy, and that’s activity-based. There’s some categories:

  1. Hunting. These days, this is mostly a form of entertainment, but this is still utilitarian for a handful of people.
  2. Varmints. Seriously, coyotes suck, and guns are a pretty effective way to keep them at bay.
  3. Fantasy fulfillment. This is where your “protection from government”, and “protecting your family” come in. None of this is real, but if you close your eyes and wish real hard, you become fantasy Dirty Harry.
  4. Culture/heirlooms. Dad gave me this gun, it’s been in my family since great grandpa James used it to rob a train. It has intense personal value.

So, going at the list from easy to hard.

#4 is easy. Heirlooms have no need to be functional. Fill it with epoxy and you can keep your family heirloom gun forever.
#3 is easy too. Protecting your family in a fantasy world is not worth endangering your family in the real world. If you fill your gun with epoxy, it still works just as well in your fantasies and doesn’t endanger your family anymore.
#1 is mostly easy. For the entertainment angle, there’s a big arcade cabinet version of Big Buck Hunter down at the bowling alley. You’ll probably do better at this version anyway.

So we’re down to utility hunting and varmints. You don’t need an AR-15 for either of these activities (although it’s common for both). For these activities, you do not need semiauto, you do not need concealable, you do not need lightweight, you do not need large clips, you do not need rapid reload. Frankly, bow-hunters will tell you you don’t even need a gun, but bow-hunters are crazy so we don’t listen to them. An old-west-style Winchester rifle works fine for both. You have to cock it every time because it’s not semiauto. You need to stop and reload it frequently. It’s not particularly fun to shoot. Luckily none of this matters for those utilitarian purposes. Could one still be used in a crime? Absolutely. A less common, less deadly crime. And if it’s still too deadly, we can still weigh the right to varmint control against the right to remain breathing and decide which one we, as a society, value more.

So while you’ve still not heard a single argument why a civilian should be able to buy an assault weapon like an AR-15, I haven’t heard a credible argument why a civilian should be able to buy a handgun.

Re handguns, why isn’t the argument for self defense credible in your eyes?

I’m curious about this too.

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#1175226
Topic
What are you reading?
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ray_afraid said:

moviefreakedmind said:

If it’s revised it will have an introduction by Stephen King titled “On Being 19” or something like that. If it doesn’t have that then I’m guessing it’s the original.

Oh, I guess it’s the original then.
What’s been changed?

The original novel places the story in the distant future of our world through various references scattered throughout, which conflicts with later books. The revised version changes these references. It also smooths out some of the rougher prose and peppers in some language from later books, as well as some foreshadowing in the form of the number nineteen, and changing some language at the end that establishes two different antagonists that later became one person using different identities.

An excellent way to tell if it’s the revised or original - if you finish the Tull section of the book and the number nineteen didn’t come up, it’s the original. (If you’re unsure about it, then it didn’t come up, it’s a pretty major part of that sequence in the revised version.)

And like MFM, I haven’t read the original, so I’m just going off what I’ve heard about the changes over the years.

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#1175222
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Last movie seen
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Okay, I finished Justice League.

It wasn’t that horribly awful. The first half hour or so is, though.

It’s tonally inconsistent throughout, the CGI is some of the worst I’ve seen in recent memory, the story is basically nonexistent, and the painfully obvious reshoots go beyond Superman’s awful CGI face (which sadly encompasses 90% of his spoken dialogue).

But overall it’s a dumb superhero team-up movie and if it weren’t for Marvel doing it first and doing it much better both the first time and multiple times since, it would have been better received.

It’s bad, yes, but it’s not as bad as the first 30 minutes would have you believe.

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#1174738
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

TM2YC said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.

What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?

yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777

Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840

Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392

Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470

Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.

You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.

  1. Going into a school where no one is armed.
  2. Going into a police station full of armed cops.

Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:

23 percent of emergency department shootings involved a perpetrator taking a gun from a security officer

But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.

Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.

Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.

Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.

First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.

So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.

We manage just fine in the UK without letting our Police execute members of the public

  1. the UK isn’t the US. Many more badguys are armed here.

You are so close to getting it! Why are more bad guys armed here?

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY GUNS AND HAVE BARELY ANY RESTRICTIONS ON GETTING ONE.

Quoted for truth.

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#1174639
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.

What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?

yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777

Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840

Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392

Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.

https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470

Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.

You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.

  1. Going into a school where no one is armed.
  2. Going into a police station full of armed cops.

Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:

23 percent of emergency department shootings involved a perpetrator taking a gun from a security officer

But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.

Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.

Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.

Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.

You do realize that there are countries where the police do not, in fact, carry firearms, and it works out pretty well for them, right?

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#1174529
Topic
Am I a Bully?
Time

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

yhwx said:

You keep on saying that, but having to explain that it was a joke proves that the joke failed at what it was supposed to do.

Your posts make me want to snort a speedball.

Ok, actually, that post wins, and it wasn’t even in this thread, I just found it through this thread.

Can one snort a speedball? You’d think that’d be something I’d know. Maybe Neglify does.

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#1174496
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Last movie seen
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DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

DominicCobb said:

Man of Steel isn’t that bad. It’s not great, but it does have good aspects.

I’m surprised you liked BvS more than Justice League though. BvS was simply one of the worst films I’ve seen in recent memory. JL ain’t great either, but at least I didn’t want to kill myself while watching it.

It might have helped that I’ve only seen the director’s cut, I dunno. From what I’ve seen of the differences between that and the theatrical, I don’t understand how the theatrical was comprehensible in any way.

It wasn’t.

Personally, I can’t imagine how making an already interminable film longer would make me enjoy it any more, so I haven’t seen the director’s cut and can’t really compare.

Well, from what I’ve read, the theatrical cut removed large chunks of plot, especially surrounding the Africa stuff, Lois’ investigation of Lex, and Clark’s investigation of Batman. So it’s longer, yes, but the short version seems to have sacrificed narrative coherence for a shorter runtime, crippling an already flawed film.

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#1174469
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Last movie seen
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Collipso said:

ChainsawAsh said:

DominicCobb said:

Man of Steel isn’t that bad. It’s not great, but it does have good aspects.

I’m surprised you liked BvS more than Justice League though. BvS was simply one of the worst films I’ve seen in recent memory. JL ain’t great either, but at least I didn’t want to kill myself while watching it.

It might have helped that I’ve only seen the director’s cut, I dunno. From what I’ve seen of the differences between that and the theatrical, I don’t understand how the theatrical was comprehensible in any way.

Is the director’s cut the “ultimate version”?

Yep.

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#1174397
Topic
Last movie seen
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DominicCobb said:

Man of Steel isn’t that bad. It’s not great, but it does have good aspects.

I’m surprised you liked BvS more than Justice League though. BvS was simply one of the worst films I’ve seen in recent memory. JL ain’t great either, but at least I didn’t want to kill myself while watching it.

It might have helped that I’ve only seen the director’s cut, I dunno. From what I’ve seen of the differences between that and the theatrical, I don’t understand how the theatrical was comprehensible in any way.

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#1174190
Topic
Last movie seen
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Tried watching Justice League tonight.

Tried. Holy shit is it bad.

And this is coming from someone who genuinely liked Man of Steel and didn’t think BvS was quite the abomination many saw it as (though it’s not exactly good).

I’m going to try to finish it someday, but I’ll need lots more booze first, if only to be able to see past the mustache removal (which isn’t even the worst of the CGI I’ve seen so far).

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#1174187
Topic
Info Wanted: Legality, fan-edits, and more. Legality, fan-edits, and repercussions
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

BobbyDigital said:

Do creators of fan edits normally put their name/username in the end credits? And is it risky to do that? I’d think if a fan edit was made anonymously then the creator would have less of a chance of getting in trouble.

Every fan-edit I’ve seen had the creator using an alias.

HAL puts his real name in the end credits. I’m pretty sure Adywan does the same, too.