ChainsawAsh

Might as well wait until V5 (the final version) is out, which shouldn’t be too much longer.

Been at work for 2 hours, got 6 left to go. Woo.

I think the alternate music track is an isolated score anyway, so all you’d get is the music with no dialogue or sound effects.

JEDIT: Words are hard.

Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of the first one, though it isn’t bad for a found footage style movie.

Lane would, in fact, have been better with a very different last 5-10 minutes, but that doesn’t completely invalidate the superb psychological thriller the rest of the movie is.

If digital downloads have to be treated like physical copies - as in, able to be resold and purchased “used” - that would have huge implications indeed.

I’m particularly interested in how it would affect the idea that digital copies aren’t owned, they’re licensed, meaning if the platform you’re using for your digital copy goes under, you’re screwed and out the money you paid for the media. If the rules change so consumers do own their digital copy, what does that mean for DRM? Would they necessarily need to be DRM-free going forward so they’d still be usable if the platform that can play them is scrapped? What about if your hard drive fails and you lose your copy - would there be an obligation on the part of the distributor to provide a new download free of charge, or is it like you lost your DVD and need to get a new copy?

I’m glad this stuff is finally being challenged in court, because there distribution companies have so far pretty much had free reign to handle digital distribution as they see fit with little protection for the consumer.

Especially 10 Cloverfield Lane.

Collipso said:

I thought one of the main points of the First Amendment was to protect what you say against the government, not to protect your psycho absurd fetishes against people with common sense…

Exactly, but people are dumb.

Collipso said:

You also lose “let’s go chromedome!” the best line in the movie.

Man, I used to like you, too. 😉

I picked up a night shift for Saturday night at work, so I’m still awake, trying to shift my clock a little to make sure I’m fully functional for tomorrow night. Er…tonight, I mean.

Um…R2 is perfectly fine in the last scene of ANH, while Finn is decidedly not in the last scene of TFA.

darthrush said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Collipso said:

Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

I half-jokingly wondered if somebody had used this app for porno purposes. Then my curiosity got the better of me. Now I need therapy. The things I’ve seen should not be seen.

It’s like the plot of the second X-Files movie only with computers performing the surgery. What the hell is wrong with people?! How can THAT possibly be erotic?

Sweet Christmas.

FakeApp had to be either regulated or banned in Reddit because of porn…

Yep, a whole ton of subreddits went down over this just, like, a week ago, including the old-fashioned Photoshop fake subreddits. And all the creepy basement dwellers whined about their free speech and bullshit…fucking gross.

And this is why you carefully curate your subreddit subscriptions, folks…

Why do people not understand that free speech doesn’t just take away the consequences of what you say. All it protects is your right to say it. Not to force others to tolerate it in their own spaces.

Not to mention that it doesn’t mean a company has to allow you to say whatever you want on their turf - it just means you can’t be thrown in jail for what you say. And even that has its limits.

We had a similar issue with our ancient extensometer in the lab at work last year. The issue was, we didn’t have the paperwork for it anymore, and they refused to service it without the paperwork, even when we offered to pay though the nose for it and had proof that they’d serviced it a few years earlier.

We said fuck it and bought a new one from a different manufacturer. Sadly, replacing that meant we had to hold on to our shitty lab extruder for another year…man I fucking hate that thing…

lovelikewinter said:

I’m shocked at how many people think that JJ is going to use Hayden Christensen in IX.

I’m shocked at how many people want him to.

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh, I appreciate what you’re saying. And I am not advocating silence (as CatBus suggests) but following page-after-page of mostly pro-gun control statements, I think the other solutions deserve some attention.

It just seems to me that the “other solutions” are like putting a bandage on a severed limb before trying a tourniquet.

oojason said:

ChainsawAsh said:

oojason said:

Collipso said:

Something’s not right here. I don’t want to post this in the bully thread, but if we’re losing so many valuable members in such a short period of time then something’s wrong.

Many people come and go - then come back again mate. It’s happened on here, and other places online, for many years - and will continue to do so.

It may seem a little more noticeable when people who are leaving for a short while announce it as they have - yet I don’t think it’s a sign that something is wrong - or not right.

At least when I left, I just up and vanished for 5 years. That’s how you do it! 😉

You’re fooling no-one, TimeLord 😃

Haha, I’m gonna have to plead the fifth on that one!

CatBus said:

So while solutions that can pass a legislature are preferred in the near term, I don’t feel we should feel obligated to be silent about solutions that solve the problem more effectively without as many downsides, just because they’re currently unpassable.

Even though I don’t fully agree with some of the more “extreme” solutions you’ve proposed, I am 100% fully on board with this statement.

Collipso said:

Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

I half-jokingly wondered if somebody had used this app for porno purposes. Then my curiosity got the better of me. Now I need therapy. The things I’ve seen should not be seen.

It’s like the plot of the second X-Files movie only with computers performing the surgery. What the hell is wrong with people?! How can THAT possibly be erotic?

Sweet Christmas.

FakeApp had to be either regulated or banned in Reddit because of porn…

Yep, a whole ton of subreddits went down over this just, like, a week ago, including the old-fashioned Photoshop fake subreddits. And all the creepy basement dwellers whined about their free speech and bullshit…fucking gross.

And this is why you carefully curate your subreddit subscriptions, folks…

poita said:

I personally had a mild heart attack, and have to rest up a bit, but the work will continue soon.

Jesus, I’m sorry to hear that! 😮 Please rest for as long as you need to. Your health is the most important thing for you to be concerned about. Take care, man!

TV’s Frink said:

I disappeared for a few hours once.

I don’t believe you.

oojason said:

Collipso said:

Something’s not right here. I don’t want to post this in the bully thread, but if we’re losing so many valuable members in such a short period of time then something’s wrong.

Many people come and go - then come back again mate. It’s happened on here, and other places online, for many years - and will continue to do so.

It may seem a little more noticeable when people who are leaving for a short while announce it as they have - yet I don’t think it’s a sign that something is wrong - or not right.

At least when I left, I just up and vanished for 5 years. That’s how you do it! 😉

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mrebo said:

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mrebo said:

I think we should all be pleased we’re talking about gun control (mostly large scale banning of guns) exclusively, while some are)admitting it’s almost certainly not going to happen in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile we ignore the enormous numerous failings that could have been avoided to prevent the deaths here and at other schools. Round of applause!

Okay, why don’t you start? What sort of failings?

They’ve been in the news and I’ve mentioned them previously in the thread. But there were the calls to the FBI, including a post by Cruz that he wanted to be a “professional school shooter.” He was expelled from school because he had bullets in his backpack. The family he lived with knew he was deeply troubled, knew he had guns (but apparently not how many and where). Kids at school were afraid of him. People knew he tortured and killed animals. Numerous police and social service visits to the house with no actions taken. The deputy working at the school that day stayed outside when the shooting was going on.

But if he hadn’t had a gun, we wouldn’t be talking about this right now. We would be talking about Trump’s claim that he is, in fact, one-fourth Chinese.

Setting aside the practicality of gun bans, if he didn’t have a rifle, I don’t see why he wouldn’t use a handgun, and if not a handgun, a knife or an explosive device. And then maybe we could talk about how we could stop him from killing whatever number of people he killed. Would it be only 5 dead children? Maybe. We can only guess. There’s a sleight of hand going on here and it’s not by me. If you think this kid only killed people because he had a gun you’re ignoring all those facts, strangely because they’re not controversial.

Of course he had the desire to kill because of all these factors — where did I ever doubt that? Making the process more efficient at catching those at risk is part of the guns debate.

Didn’t mean to respond to your post.

But restricting access to guns makes sense.

The total gun ban idea is unrealistic and wrongheaded.

And for the millionth time, a total gun ban is not the objective. Go back and look at the Australian law posted a couple pages back - that’s the ideal objective we should be working toward IMO.

Depends who you talk to in this thread. Some say ban semiautomatic rifles, some say handguns too. Some say it’s never going to happen but we totally got to do it.

As I’ve expressed in previous pages, some kind of additional gun regulations can be a good idea. I don’t think the Australia law is permitted here under our Constitution, even beyond the 2nd Amendment, but would have to study that further. I think the obsession with banning guns is distracting from taking other concrete steps to end mass shootings at schools.

And I think reasonable gun control is the most concrete step that can be taken to end mass shootings at schools.

Are there others? Sure.

For example, our media actually has a pretty sensible attitude toward reporting suicide, because data has shown that when suicides are reported in the news, suicide rates increase. I believe that when mass shootings are reported in the news - especially when we talk so much about the shooter - the rates of mass shootings similarly increase. We need to carefully examine how we report these massacres and the amount of attention we give to the individuals that perpetrate these crimes, and adjust the way these things are reported accordingly.

That would help.

As another example, the treatment of mental health in this country is still heavily stigmatized to the point where most people are either unwilling to seek treatment for fear of being ostracized, or unable to seek treatment because resources are unavailable to them, or both.

Further, when others report on people who show signs of violent behavior, we need to start taking the reports seriously and put procedures in place (or start following existing procedures) to help these individuals or reduce the risk they pose to others, rather than treating the reports as a waste of time and resources, as we seem to have done with Cruz.

Those things would help, too.

You know what would help way, way more than either of those things?

Controlling who can purchase firearms and what type of firearms, accessories, and ammunition are available to the general public.

Mrebo said:

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

yhwx said:

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mrebo said:

I think we should all be pleased we’re talking about gun control (mostly large scale banning of guns) exclusively, while some are)admitting it’s almost certainly not going to happen in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile we ignore the enormous numerous failings that could have been avoided to prevent the deaths here and at other schools. Round of applause!

Okay, why don’t you start? What sort of failings?

They’ve been in the news and I’ve mentioned them previously in the thread. But there were the calls to the FBI, including a post by Cruz that he wanted to be a “professional school shooter.” He was expelled from school because he had bullets in his backpack. The family he lived with knew he was deeply troubled, knew he had guns (but apparently not how many and where). Kids at school were afraid of him. People knew he tortured and killed animals. Numerous police and social service visits to the house with no actions taken. The deputy working at the school that day stayed outside when the shooting was going on.

But if he hadn’t had a gun, we wouldn’t be talking about this right now. We would be talking about Trump’s claim that he is, in fact, one-fourth Chinese.

Setting aside the practicality of gun bans, if he didn’t have a rifle, I don’t see why he wouldn’t use a handgun, and if not a handgun, a knife or an explosive device. And then maybe we could talk about how we could stop him from killing whatever number of people he killed. Would it be only 5 dead children? Maybe. We can only guess. There’s a sleight of hand going on here and it’s not by me. If you think this kid only killed people because he had a gun you’re ignoring all those facts, strangely because they’re not controversial.

Of course he had the desire to kill because of all these factors — where did I ever doubt that? Making the process more efficient at catching those at risk is part of the guns debate.

Didn’t mean to respond to your post.

But restricting access to guns makes sense.

The total gun ban idea is unrealistic and wrongheaded.

And for the millionth time, a total gun ban is not the objective. Go back and look at the Australian law posted a couple pages back - that’s the ideal objective we should be working toward IMO.

TV’s Frink said:

I feel like Mrebo’s argument is just the usual “don’t look at guns because we’re afraid you’ll take them away, look at all this other stuff” sleight of hand.

Yeah, pretty much.

Mrebo said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Mrebo said:

I think we should all be pleased we’re talking about gun control (mostly large scale banning of guns) exclusively, while some are)admitting it’s almost certainly not going to happen in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile we ignore the enormous numerous failings that could have been avoided to prevent the deaths here and at other schools. Round of applause!

Okay, why don’t you start? What sort of failings?

They’ve been in the news and I’ve mentioned them previously in the thread. But there were the calls to the FBI, including a post by Cruz that he wanted to be a “professional school shooter.” He was expelled from school because he had bullets in his backpack. The family he lived with knew he was deeply troubled, knew he had guns (but apparently not how many and where). Kids at school were afraid of him. People knew he tortured and killed animals. Numerous police and social service visits to the house with no actions taken. The deputy working at the school that day stayed outside when the shooting was going on.

Yeah, those were the things I thought you meant. Those things have been talked about, but there’s no real debate to be had about any of them since everyone’s on the same page pretty much across the board, whereas there’s still a debate to be had about guns.

Mrebo said:

I think we should all be pleased we’re talking about gun control (mostly large scale banning of guns) exclusively, while some are)admitting it’s almost certainly not going to happen in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile we ignore the enormous numerous failings that could have been avoided to prevent the deaths here and at other schools. Round of applause!

Okay, why don’t you start? What sort of failings?