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35 or 50 look the best to me. I wonder how this would work on the Hayden ghost as it currently exists in ROTJ…
The speedup & pitch increase instantly kill all benefits of PAL for me.
There is an MKV someone made using the 720x576 PAL video from the PAL DVD9, but with the framerate flag reset to 23.976 and the Dolby 5.1 audio from the NTSC DVD9 paired with it. That’s the ideal version of ANH:R at the moment unless you need a disc/menus. It’s available on MySpleen if you have an account (note to all: don’t ask for invites, the site is closed and likely won’t ever reopen).
When converting from Pal to Ntsc i could see that. Do they film in 25 frames per sec in Europe?
Not movies. Theatrical movies are 24fps across the board. Until Blu-Ray, there was no way to watch a theatrical film (or a TV series/TV movie from an NTSC country) at its correct framerate on a PAL home video format. Some movies did pitch correct their releases, but the people still move 4% faster which has a subtly unnatural effect, at least to me.
But Blu-Ray/ATSC now allows for 24p in PAL countries, so 90% of Euro BR releases of films are at the correct framerate.
Shamefully, they did not allow for 25p, so that’s why most Euro TV material on Blu is 1080i, because the only way to avoid changing the framerate is to just run 25p as 50Hz interlaced. The Doctor Who S1-4 Blu-Rays are actually slowed down from 25fps to 24fps so they could make it 1080p (can’t remember if they pitch-corrected for the slowdown, I don’t own the Blu’s of those).
Cause filming at 25 frames a sec is different than converting from 23.what evs to 25, which would cause a speed up.
Of course, but we were discussing which release of a 24fps film to get, so the speed up is important to consider.
Hobbit was filmed at 60 frames per sec with the only effect being the reds were washed out and had to be artificially pumped up on set with overly vibrant reds and make up
No, The Hobbit was filmed at 48fps, and all home video releases just remove half the frames and run it at 24fps, which doesn’t result in any speedup or slowdown. I don’t know what they did for 50Hz PAL DVD releases, but I’d assume they just sped up the 24fps master to 25fps.
Personally I don’t think Qui-Gon fits since none of the characters involved except Palpatine likely even know who he is, and according to TCW he can’t manifest physically anyway, only as a voice.
Now, all the other ghosts plus Qui-Gon’s disembodied voice saying something…that I could get behind, since he could kind of represent “all the other Jedi” in a way.
The speedup & pitch increase instantly kill all benefits of PAL for me.
There is an MKV someone made using the 720x576 PAL video from the PAL DVD9, but with the framerate flag reset to 23.976 and the Dolby 5.1 audio from the NTSC DVD9 paired with it. That’s the ideal version of ANH:R at the moment unless you need a disc/menus. It’s available on MySpleen if you have an account (note to all: don’t ask for invites, the site is closed and likely won’t ever reopen).
I for one would love to see Hayden’s ghost with his ROTS outfit + robe in both ROTJ and TROS, especially if we can get a less creepy take of him for ROTJ.
I’d say that seems like a very accurate assessment.
RE Anakin:
Using Christensen in TROS might actually convince me to accept Christensen in ROTJ. Though I’d rather see a fanmade ROTJ Christensen ghost that improves on the hack job from 2004.
Also, I…really don’t like aged Hayden in any capacity.
Honestly, I think they’re all fine. I probably lean towards 2 or 3.
I’d certainly be interested. I’d also be down for something akin to Loose Cannon’s still-image reconstructions of missing Doctor Who episodes to make some kind of visual to actually watch from the audiobook sources.
I mean, the “legal area” of a fan edit is the same regardless of the source (film, TV, radio, book, comic, podcast, whatever) - there may be an argument for fair use, but overall, it’s a violation of copyright law.
As for the concept itself, I know that someone once tried to edit the Thrawn Trilogy comics to fit with the prequels (this was pre-ST), but I don’t think it was ever finished, and I don’t know of anyone who’s edited audio in the way you’re suggesting. It’s an intriguing idea!
I like the idea, but it would take some serious audio wizardry to make it not sound like he’s pressing buttons on a Palpatine soundboard. I think it may be a bit too ambitious but I’d love to be proven wrong.
+1
Force Ghost new version
https://vimeo.com/409718237
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Alright, now I’m sold. Fantastic work!
I hate anything with “National Lampoons” in the title.
Even Vacation/Christmas Vacation?
If you’re asking that it means you don’t have a MySpleen account, which unfortunately you can’t get since MySpleen is a closed tracker now. Sorry.
Go ahead and shoot poppasketti a PM and he’ll send you his link. 😃
I’d vote to leave Qui-Gon out simply because it’s explicitly stated in canon that Qui-Gon can only manifest as a voice.
Then again, Padme canonically died in childbirth, so…
V3 (the full version with Palpatine teases) is now uploaded to MySpleen in both 34GB 1080p and 4GB 720p flavors!
I’ll do the “NoPalp” version if there’s interest, but it’ll be a week or so before I can upload it.
For everyone who’s into real science fiction with deep philosophical themes, check out Alex Garland’s Hulu/FX miniseries Devs. It’s absolutely fantastic and features a surprisingly great dramatic turn from Nick Offerman.
If you liked either of Garland’s films (Ex Machina and Annihilation), you’ll love Devs.
Comparatively, CGI Yoda looks like he was pulled out of a not very impressive video game cutscene and jarringly plopped in the movie.
So…just like almost everything else in the prequels?
CPY looks nothing like Yoda or the AOTC/ROTS CGI models. CGI Yoda doesn’t look any more like Yoda than the AOTC/ROTS CGI, but it’s at least consistent with AOTC/ROTS instead of being the one odd man out.
The reason Lucas went with a CGI Yoda was so that he could make him into a backflipping twirling ninja who was never supposed to fight to begin with.
Enough said.
I mean, yeah, but it’s also because the TPM puppet looked like straight trash.
I can’t argue with that!
Thanks for further justifying my dragging my feet on the MySpleen uploads! 😉
I’ll get to them this week, I swear…
He looks like Yoda while the puppet doesn’t at all, and he matches the other prequels. Those two things mean he’s immediately superior to me.
Plus CPY always made me uncomfortable.
Don’t get me wrong guys, I want the 100% theatrical version preserved as well, CreepyPuppetYoda and all, and I’d keep it for archival purposes. But the “theatrical but CGI Yoda” version would be the only one I’d ever watch outside of full-on fan edits.
A 35mm scan is in the works at the moment. I believe ZigZig would be the person to get in touch with about that.
My biggest “compromised purism” in Star Wars is wanting to conform the BR cut of TPM to the theatrical cut - that is, keep the editing of the theatrical cut exactly, but with all the visual updates of the BR (CGI Yoda, mainly).
It’s the only one where something like that would outright replace any official version forever for me.
But Creepy Puppet Yoda™ looks infinitely better than CGI Yoda.
I mean, everyone’s entitled to their own opinions. Even when they’re objectively incorrect. 😉