CatBus

Not only that, but if it weren't for that nail, the Holiday Special would have been much less entertaining.

I have to say I spent quite a few minutes looking at 13.13.51 saying to myself, "What did he...?  How did he even...?  Holy crap that looks good!"

I just took a look (didn't download, but checked date and NFO) and it doesn't appear updated.  I may have caused a panic, sorry.

negative1 said:

why is using a new mix a bug?

The GOUT was pitched as the "original trilogy as it existed originally in the theatres", which is why they went through the trouble of putting in (or re-creating) the original crawl and flyover for Star Wars.  Given that description of what it was supposed to be, the only appropriate mixes for Star Wars would have been one of the '77 mixes.

It's not a technical glitch, but it is a point at which it clearly deviates from the purported design specs--and it's not even a matter of attempting to meet the design specs and doing badly at it (anamorphic could qualify as that), it's just not even in the same ballpark as the goal.  I think that qualifies as a bug.

You know, like if your software was supposed to be a Word Processor but it turned out to be a toaster oven.  Perhaps fully functional and even good at what it does but still wrong.

Actually I think it's just Star Wars that's wrong.  I'm not sure it's easily provable if ESB and ROTJ are wrong, and I'd err on the side of caution for something trying to be a definitive list.

AntcuFaalb said:

CatBus said:

I thought h_h mentioned once that the GOUT version of Star Wars had the wrong soundtrack--i.e. something that was assembled to resemble the '77 mix in most respects, but wasn't the actual '77 mix.  Anyone know the details, or am I maybe imagining things?

I thought they used the '93 mix?

Possibly--either way, the whole soundtrack can be called a bug.

I thought h_h mentioned once that the GOUT version of Star Wars had the wrong soundtrack--i.e. something that was assembled to resemble the '77 mix in most respects, but wasn't the actual '77 mix.  Anyone know the details, or am I maybe imagining things?

"aliazing" should be aliasing

"Jap" is not a very good choice for an abbreviation for "Japanese" (the term has a racist history).  I'd spell out Japanese Special Collection once with (JSC) in parentheses, then use JSC from that point on.

schorman13 said:

Yeah they are done, I forgot to mention that :)

Wait.  My brain just woke up... do you mean the ducked commentaries are done and already in the updated existing archive, or done and waiting for the rest of the tracks to be done for a big update?  If it's the former, I feel sooo sheepish.

Wait, wait.  Laserschwert is right.  We need to tie this back into Star Wars somehow.

So Darth Vader will be in it.  But he can't wear a black cape, and he can't use a lightsaber.  But other than that, he'll still be Vader.  This is gonna be AWESOME!

Forget Harmy! You and me are going to Hollywood, Mr. Wings!

Put a giant spider in the third act and this thing could go places in Hollywood.

I was thinking he'd be good in a reboot of the F/X movies.  The bad guys try to thwart him using all these fancy digital effects, but he cobbles something together using models and rubber masks that saves the day.

Man, everyone's focusing on the negative!  How about some speculation about which superhero franchise reboot Harmy's gonna star in?

I'm serious, 50-50 odds on a name drop.  Like: I'd like to thank my mother, my analyst, Petr Harmacek, my voice coach, my dog trainer, blah blah blah.  So many people go up there onstage and say the most random things, a name drop is pretty small potatoes, and I think by the time the awards roll around, some of the right people will have seen it to make it happen (yes I know Pegg and Wheaton are unlikely to be up there themselves).  I'm not suggesting Billy Crystal shows a 15-minute clip or something.

You are correct to detect a half-joking tone for the whole thread.  Speculation is fun, especially when we're betting which starlet Harmy will soon be having breakfast with!

I personally think Lucasfilm will say nothing and do nothing, either from a genuine belief that it has no significant impact on them, or for fear of drawing more attention to it.

10000:1 - The Nobel Prize Committee finally caves to the times and expands their Literature category to include "The Arts".  First winner?  You guessed it.

I don't think finding a DTS-MA encoder is the hold-up on getting the lossless version out.  h_h just sounds extraordinarily busy right now.  That said, I'd love an updated ETA on the lossless mix if there's anything to report.

A lot of people are worried/excited/fascinated by the fact that the Despecialized Edition is now apparently known to and loved by the Hollywood insider crowd.  Rather than panicking and speculating in all the other threads, let’s put it all here.

I’m placing odds on the following events:

1:1 - Harmy gets name-dropped by someone onstage at the next Academy Awards.

3:1 - Harmy gets name-dropped by more than one person at the next Academy Awards.

50:1 - Within a year, Harmy has permanent guest privileges at several Hollywood homes, and spends the next few years couch surfing with the stars.

700:1 - A small Czech flag keeps showing up on the sidewalk in front of the Chinese Theatre, on the same sidewalk square dedicated to a certain film franchise producer.  The flag keeps getting removed, but a new one keeps showing up to replace it.  The theater owner is perplexed.

3000:1 - A famous Hollywood hillside landmark gets some of its letters replaced, and the O-L-L is replaced by an A-R-M.

Ain’t gonna happen - Star Wars is officially released on Blu-ray.  Sorry, folks, let’s keep it realistic.

pat man said:

Lucasfilm ltd. should see your Despecialized Edition V2.1...

no they should not.

not until the other

two movies are done

at least.

it's all fun and games

until Gringo gets shot.

later,

CB

I want to add that even though your work is impressive enough to the community here, who have seen the slow evolution of fan preservations through the years, it is flat-out unbelievable to "civilians" outside OT.com.  I've shown your 2.0 version around and, without a doubt, the most common reaction is: "How is this even POSSIBLE?!?"

I'm reminded of Clarke's Third Law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.  I'd say this definitely describes your work.

Bingowings said:

I can only play Harmy's versions on my computer as they become out of sync on the Primus for some reason.

Audio processing causes a delay, so if your system has any dynamic room correction or other processing enabled, it'll throw the audio out of sync with the video.  Worth looking into at least.

Nothing planned right now, but my local independent run-by-hippies theatre lets you rent the place for private showings (i.e. closed venue, no advertising, no concessions): $50+an hourly rate, which doesn't sound bad at all.  They can show Blu-rays, so that's how I'll handle the media.  Not sure how big their screen is, but it's an older theatre and therefore bigger than a modern multiplex.  Also not sure how many real channels their audio supports, depending on what I discover I'd go with 5.1 or 2.0.  They have a ton of seating but I bet I can fill it.

It's all very preliminary, I'm in no rush.  I might not get around to it until Spring.  Maybe May the 4th...

Harmy said:

I'm done with all the fixes now except the Obi-Wan scene, which should be a piece of cake.

Piece of cake to make the change, sure.  Piece of cake to satisfy the picky, picky masses? Maybe not so much. ;)

Kingherb said:

You know Harmy the only thing i missed in the finished mkv of 2.0, was the old cinema countdown like you had in your test parts, would you consider bringing that back for the Blu-Ray?

 ++ Those countdowns were awesome and would make great menu transition lead-in/outs.

Harmy said:

 

Slightly darken some of the very bright shots in the Luke meets Ben scene.

Not that even more needs to be said on this topic, but I'm curious--what's your target here?  Are you still aiming for close fidelity to the Technicolor prints, or are you going for something somewhere between that and your final workprint?  I remember when you were discussing those awful blue tinted shots, you were considering doing a "nod to the blue tint" without actually making it as blue.  Are you considering a "nod to the overexposed look"?