CatBus

rockin said:

I'm not really sure what to make of the Superman movies.

IMO, at least for the first film, the blue is too shifted to teal and the reds are too saturated.  Other than that it's actually pretty good.

thejediknighthusezni said:

It's a pity they were just too far above it to provide recognition.

Yeah, it's not like they gave Star Wars more Oscars than they gave Annie Hall or anyth... er, okay, it turns out they did.

But showering Star Wars with Oscars like they did doesn't count as recog... er, okay, it does.

What was your point again?  Six Oscars and a Special Achievement Award doesn't count?  They just give six Oscars to every movie that gets made that year? Maybe you thought Star Wars should have swept every single Oscar category?  According to those standards, those dirty elites haven't recognized a single movie EVER!  They are too busy watching opera and eating caviar!

They are so DOWN on Star Wars!  All the Oscars they gave it weren't even real gold I bet!

DominicCobb said:

Look, I know my Oscar history which means I know what kind of bullshit it is. But when you're movie wins 11 Oscars (tied for the most ever actually) then IT HAS TO BE GOOD. That's all I'm saying.

Titanic got 11, Forrest Gump got 6, Gladiator and Braveheart got 5.  All were terrible.

I wouldn't say the number of Oscars is predictive of anything but commercial success.  And Shakespeare in Love was better than Saving Private Ryan (although neither deserved to win that year), because the former had some mild entertainment value beyond the first ten minutes.

Is there anyone I didn't manage to piss off with this post?  I'm sure I can do better.

TV's Frink said:

CatBus said:

To quote Frink: "SHUN!"

I stole it.

SHUN!

To quote Frink: "SHUN!"

Admittedly, I prefer his earlier, funnier movies ;)

L0conut said:

What's the difference between Project Threepio and Harmy's versions, if you don't mind my asking? 

Project Threepio is an ongoing subtitle project not tied to any particular preservation.  When Harmy wants subtitles for his project, he gets the latest subtitles that are available at the time.  So Harmy's subs in DeEd 2.1 are equivalent to Project Threepio 5.1, which had the problems I was talking about earlier.

There have been two versions of Project Threepio released since DeEd 2.1, and DeEd 2.5 will include those updates (including fixes for the VLC issue).

You can click the image link in my signature to see the discussion thread, including release notes for each version.

If you're using VLC to watch 2.1, there was a VLC-specific bug in the subs (flashing for one frame) which is fixed in the latest version of Project Threepio.

To see the ones in 2.1, you'd need to use MPC or a hardware player.

roback214 said:

When will the version 2.5?

Very soon.  But it's been "very soon" for a while ;)

Beyond that, we just don't know.  Would love to hear that file, thanks!

roback214 said:

hi!

I Have the first spansih (mexican) dubbing... sampler here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubTVG1imwYo&feature=youtu.be

I live in Chile, South America, sorry if my English is not very good. I have the audio of the 3 movies. I'm adjusting to the versions "Despecialized"
hopefully be of any use.
The audio comes from old betamax tapes recorded at the time that the television broadcast here in Chile.

 

That's great--many prefer the Latin American Spanish dubs over the Castilian ones!  Once you have synced audio for all three movies, send me the links!  I'd love to hear them!

EDIT: And if you finish syncing audio for the first one before the others, let me know too.

Well I can imagine who the "Matt" he's thanking for help is...

That said, I'm curious what the actual adjustments anyone used to improve this disc were.  Heck, an avisynth script would be great...

Laserschwert said:

Since I'm gonna need the credits for TESB and ROTJ anyway (unlike SW the German versions of those still had the English credits), I can recreate them. If someone has proper captures of the VHS releases to use as templates ;)

GOUT isn't good enough?

EDIT: You mean German credits, right. Okay, following now.

I think if I recall correctly, Laserschwert did the main work/rendering and the rest of the OT.com community provided anal-retentive copy editing and color commentary.

Also, was the one on your Jedi 1.0 authentic or re-created?  Would it be omitted in a 2.x?

red5-626 said:

This is looking good.
ESB first? OK.
I will ask this.
With ROTJ in the works
is there a chance of getting
Lapti Nek and Yub Nub cleaned up
 early so Harmy can use them?

 And Vader's eyebrows.

timdiggerm said:

Is there also an advantage for people with 2.0 setups (like me) in that there's no downmixing going on? The mix was designed for 2.0, and thus will sound better than 5.1 downmix?

Well, in the sense that the 5.1 upmix often involves some audio shenanigans (it's rare that a soundtrack gets a tasteful conservative upmix).  So when downmixed to stereo it still has all the other stuff they did to it, whereas the stereo track doesn't have all of that.  A tastefully upmixed 5.1 track should sound about the same downmixed to 2.0--it's just that that sort of thing is pretty rare.

That said, Laserdisc 2.0 tracks aren't perfect either.  They can have somewhat compressed dynamics (the so-called near-field mix), dropouts, etc, but the audio guys simply didn't have all the tools at the time to be so tempted to make little changes all over the place so easily, so there's at least the semblance of theatrical fidelity.

Molly said:

It's that weird bend around the neck point.

But what is it?  A deformed extra vertebra?  An invisible multidimensional parasite?  It is starting to seriously freak me out.  Can't stop looking.

timdiggerm said:

Can I get an explanation of the advantages of using these soundtracks over whatever's on their blurays?

I can't vouch for all of them, but I'd say the goal is to get something that more closely resembles the theatrical audio.  The problem is, in many of the above cases, the soundtracks are a relatively small problem on the Blu-ray compared to the video (Back to the Future, Alien/s).  But, lacking a correction for the video problems, they're the best we can do.

poita said:

Davinci Lite is free and is great for high bit depth work, and is apparently used by pretty ladies. 

Something... wrong... with her ponytail.  Can't figure it out.

PM sent.

AntcuFaalb said:

Can someone upload this somewhere else please?

I'm getting terrible terrible speeds with MEGA.

Thanks!

You need to delete some PM's ;)

captainsolo said:

The only big color criticism off the top of my head I have with WB overall is the Superman films

He is the "Man of Teal" after all.

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

Video schmideo.  The next version of Project Threepio will have Braille subtitles.  It may not sound like much, but it actually works really well in 3D.

Will we finally have Lapti Nek in HD?  Could it be?

dvdmike said:

It's like working a project in Nazi Germany!

In Soviet Russia, the terms define YOU!

Yeah, I'm taking a lot of my cues for "preservation" from the physical art preservation and historical preservation world, where things do in fact get regularly restored because otherwise natural processes will slowly destroy them.  Even digital files may need restoration if they come from partially degraded analog sources.