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AntcuFaalb said:

If the following is true, then I'm really fucking excited despite what I've said in the past. http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/

Still not excited. While there's always the possibility for a good film to be strung between all of the plot points mentioned, that's far from certain. And frankly the revelation that something from the PT is even acknowledged in the ST shows a lack of judgment that could show up elsewhere--I mean, it's four movies later, decades have passed, and all the PT characters and plotlines could very well be left for dead, without even implying an insult to the fans of those movies.  But instead we get bitter half-robot Sebulba collecting Jedi scrap off eBay. Great.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I still hate that godforsaken lightsaber to the deepest inner core of my soul, though.

Would you still feel that way if it was exactly the same, but mauve or chartreuse?

PM sent.

PM sent.  Lots of requests for Portuguese lately!

PM sent.

Thanks as always!

Summary of changes?

danny_boy said:

I would have to disagree with the definition of the special edition as constituting a fan edit.

Harmy did not work on the original production of star wars in 1976....by all accounts....he was not even born!

Lucas,Muren,Hart(who cut the negative on ESB and ROTJ) and Burrt were all involved in making those  original flicks......and yeah they vandalized them  in 1994-1997.....but they are not "fan editors".

You don't think they're fans of their own movies?  That's harsh ;)

Well, actually, Lucas has recently said things that sound like he's no longer a fan of these films, but I think it's fair to assume he was once a fan of them.

Just kidding, mostly.  I was pointing out that it's a matter of semantics, which means there's plenty of room for alternate interpretations.  It's perfectly reasonable to say fan edits exclude edits done by the original production crew, I just don't buy into that.

I think putting the word "fan" in front of "fan edits" is often used as a way to marginalize/demean the quality of the work, when I feel we have plenty of examples of fan edits with notably better technical execution and fidelity to the spirit of the originals than edits done by the studios.  And also because I don't think any particular post-release edit is any more legitimate than another.  Neither the Special Editions nor Revisited are The Real Thing (although one of them is trying to pass itself off as such)--in my mind, who created them is irrelevant to that basic fact.  For that reason, I do rather intentionally lump all post-release edits into the same bucket, for better or worse.

70mm please 70mm please 70mm please oh please.

danny_boy said:

 

When I ask Conheim if there’s a Honus Wagner card of film prints, he names the British Star Wars, processed in Technicolor. It doesn’t fade, he says. “They were still using that process in England up to 1977 or so. Those are really sought after, because even the original negative has faded.” A Technicolor print of Vertigo is also valuable. “I saw one sell for $10,000 two or three years ago.I’ve never seen a Star Wars British version for sale. I know two people who have them. One guy is so freaked out it’s going to be a disappointment he’s never opened the box it came in. I’ve been standing in front of the box with him many times, he’s like, ‘I’ll get there.'”

http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2014/01/05/the_projectionist/

Yes, we're very lucky to have so many members with access to these prints.  We already knew that, but it's good to hear you say it, even if using someone else's words (and, FWIW, the prices have gone up since your quote).

It's definitely a semantics thing.  I consider Harmy's to be a fan restoration, which is a subset of fan edit in my book.  I also consider the Special Editions to be a fan edit, just one that's neither as enjoyable nor as well done as Harmy's.

My favorite part is:

Last edited on November 23, 2014 at 7:51 AM by TheDoctor1987

Because it shows the original post had imperfections, perhaps ones that made it difficult to read, that were found and fixed.

I'm surprised anyone who's been here this long could have missed out on these developments, but I guess if you're actively avoiding fan preservations, you'd miss a lot of what's going on here.  FWIW, every claim of IB print ownership has been quite thoroughly backed up already, although the legal gray area of print ownership does mean it's not trumpeted loudly enough for everyone on the planet to hear.  Feel free to keep pretending it's not true if that suits your fancy.

Thanks, I've made such "probably inaudible" improvements myself, so I understand the itch to fix such things.  I'd appreciate the PM whenever you have the time.

EDIT: Nevermind, even with my tragic Internet connection, I was able to snag the updated files.

schorman13 said:

Ok, as I was checking a few things out with some of the mixes for Jedi, I found a couple of errors with the Audition files for the 1993 mix and the 1993 Commentary track.  Since it seems the NTSC versions are more appropriate now anyway, I've updated the torrent and have reposted.  All of the LD rips are identical and should check out with the new torrent, if you've started downloading already.

So wait a sec... are the 93 NTSC syncs in the new torrent the same as the PM'd ones or different?

Thanks again--this is a completionist's dream. Well, my sort of completionist, at least...

You can always PM the links.  I think posting the links is discouraged.

You wouldn't be able to knock off NTSC-synced ROTJ mixes for someone who's not deeply familiar with Audition, would you? Best 83 and 93 is what I'm looking for.  I'm sure I can manage if it's not something you can do (as if you haven't already done plenty for us!)

Listening to the synced tracks, so far so good.  In fact I'm pretty sure I'm going to toss out my own syncs of the ROTJ stereo mixes in favor of yours.  Also planning to give the SW 85 and 93 mixes a listen, and the ESB 93 mix, will likely have more feedback later.

Also, FWIW, future preservations of ROTJ are switching frame references from PAL to NTSC (yeah I know, don't blame me).  Which means your ROTJ tracks sync just fine with everything right now, but they'll need modifications for DeEdv2 and Team Blu, etc.  No big deal--I actually made some quick and dirty NTSC-synced versions from your PAL versions for just this purpose--but I wanted to give some warning.

Hello new user titl... er, nevermind.

In spite of my own personal ambivalence about this, and the fact that IANAL, I should point out that all public performances, even nonprofit performances, should first get permission from the copyright owner, etc etc.

I'm assuming Surf Warrior got all required permissions in advance (probably for the Special Editions, but that's likely good enough), and so his fundraiser was entirely kosher, but I didn't want anyone reading the above and thinking you could just show the DeEd at a public event without going through the proper channels.

The Spleen is back up, seed before it goes down again! ;)

I think my new role here is to provide Frink with new titles... which is actually fine by me.

I'm insinuating that Frink doesn't limit his offtopic posts to sanctioned offtopic forum*, but I've been known to be oblique.

* But with threads like Harmy's, who needs offtopic?

TV's Frink said:

Says the guy with a sense of humor who never uses it in off topic. :(

Says the guy who's annexed the rest of the forum under the flag of the Grand Duchy of Offtopic.