I wonder, has Hal listed off all the things he would like to do with TRoS, but can’t due to the limited resources he has at his disposal? That would certainly be an engaging read! 😄
Hello, I am retiring from fanediting to focus on some major health issues. Thanks for your understanding as I will no longer be responding to fanedit inquiries.
Is it COVID-related or somewhat less serious? 😧
Wow! That’s really appreciated. Sorry I’ve not been involved in conversation. I find it tough not contributing to an edit thats so close to finish.
I’ve honestly really missed the escapism. I hope you’re all doing good though.
Thanks guys.
How are you still active without a working computer? 🤔
Smartphones are a real thing 😉
Figures. 🙃
I amended my comment to specify anyone who is able to should get the vaccine - yours sounds like a legitimate health concern, and I respect that - but for the most part this is science, not “different opinions.” It shouldn’t be controversial to say that vaccines are important.
Not that I want to turn this into a Covid thread; just me offering moral support to a friend.
So let’s just move on to further updates regarding the project, shall we? 😉
Wow! That’s really appreciated. Sorry I’ve not been involved in conversation. I find it tough not contributing to an edit thats so close to finish.
I’ve honestly really missed the escapism. I hope you’re all doing good though.
Thanks guys.
How are you still active without a working computer? 🤔
There’s also the VFX left for Rey’s eyes in both the vision and when her Dark Side self flares.
I’d like to see a preview clip of those if at all possible! ^^
Hey, so I know there’s been a couple of ideas about using Voice AI replication software to get new lines out of people such as Kylo Ren or Luke.
Anyways, I just finished watching the new episode of Disney Gallery about the Season 2 finale of The Mandalorian and they talked about how they used this software called ReSpeecher to replicate Mark Hamill’s voice from back in the day for his new lines. Granted, they had raw audio files from the films to use. But, I think with stuff like the Lego Force Awakens game, we could get some good stuff for Kylo Ren at least.
Has anyone looked into possibly using this? I know on the website (here: https://www.respeecher.com/?hsLang=en) it says something about scheduling a demo or whatever. I’m not sure what kind of price it has but has anyone thought about maybe biting the bullet and looking into it?
I think Skywalker Sound used some modern voice manipulation technology to have the late, great Alec Guinness speak Rey’s name. I wonder if we could try and replicate this method for a few potential new lines of dialogue? 🤔
We currently have completed:
- Duel in Kylo’s quarters
- Duel on the DSII
- Everything on Exegol
Still needed are:
- Opening training sequence (I can’t boot into Sierra right now to check, but it claims to be created last year so I think this is just kewlfish’s original, but it could be from Luka Frik and be finished)
- Underground with the worm, and faceoff with Kylo’s TIE
- “I think you’re okay” on Kijimi
Care to explain these changes in more detail please? 🙂
Well a little while ago I finished the edit and gave my full honest review.
Thank you so much for the detailed and very fair review. Criticisms I would add to my own edit are some of the audio transitions in the cuts were not smooth enough especially in the monkey elf scene. And an earlier instance of the edit had slightly better editing on the revamped Kylo Dialogue. But unfortunately I did this edit in Premiere and it glitches when saving audio at a granular level and reloading the project.
My hope is someone builds off Ascendant while using my or a similar implementation (idea by idir_hh) of Rey Killed her parents. I’d also like to see others moving the Emperor reveal to later but no one has jumped on that. Hal’s implementation of the Emperor’s broadcast, though, is quite brilliant and I’d be fine with his version of the scene in a “definitive” cut.
The best parts of my edit are probably the improved Rey Vs Ren in TIE Fighter, replacing, new SFX for the cartoony stormtrooper yells, tightening up of the final battle sequences (Finn and Jannah getting rescued) and celebration/hugs afterward.
Glad you appreciated some of the elements. Hope someone else takes some of my ideas and builds something even better!
I’d like to see if an experience editor can make “Rey killed her parents” work as seamlessly in the film as possible with the currently available material.
Isn’t it, though?
But of course! It has only made me all the more enlightened for the new version. 😃
How do you plan on restoring the original Cimarron trailer? 😱
It’s been quite a while since I’ve followed this project and I’m speechless. I can’t put it into words how phenomenal the film is becoming. I haven’t read all the posts I’ve missed as it would take me a couple hours to read it all. Is there an easier way to see all the finished clips for 2.0? I’ve been able to find only a couple (the puppet show blew me away!) as a lot of them are lost within the discussion. A version 1.5 workprint maybe? Keep up the great work to Hal and everyone who has contributed to this edit. 😃
That sounds like a smart idea. Access to all the currently available preview clips for the latest version. HAL, get on that! XD
I wonder if you’ll pursue another full-length fan edit in the foreseeable future, Poppa? 😉
I’ve noticed this clip contains a noticeable reshuffling of shots that doesn’t seem to be noted elsewhere.
https://streamable.com/81qs12
Was this intentional on your part, SP? 😃
After reading all this, I’d like to check out the recent workprint version of your cut if you would be so kind. 😉
Bumping this project thread with some updates on my stuff in general:
I’m still working on everything, nothing has been dropped or abandoned, but it’s going to be at a slow pace for a while. Here’s what I’m working on:
- TROS: Ascendant. I have to finish editing the Jedi Voices scene to include new dialogue of Sors Bandeam. I know a few people are pretty excited about this one. Also about three quarters done.
Hasn’t HAL already done that one?
Yeah, how? Weren’t they trained Jedi back in their day?
Will the epic force ghost ending be updated in any way based on jon_h’s recent progress? 😃
Do you plan on changing the colour palette based on the recent change for the Disney+ release? 😃
…yeah?
I didn’t know that! 😱
Hold on a moment, HAL… is your Vimeo name actually “Kirk Shelton”? 😱
Something I’ve been thinking about, based on RogueLeader’s idea for Rey to receive a vision of the Death Star when she picks up the dagger on Kylo’s ship…
It feels (to me, at least) to be the perfect moment to reveal Palpatine’s return structurally (“structurally” as in, at this point of the movie - about a third to halfway through the film). It would mean that the stakes for the film are allowed to grow naturally as it progresses - we’d have been told about the Sith Fleet ahead of time, but now we know how the Fleet came to be. It’s not just introducing some dumb power spike (like “planet-destroying Star Destroyers”) that’s never relevant to the film again; it’s a raising of the stakes that actually has relevance, and changes the scope and urgency of the mission.
Plus, it makes Grandpa Palp’s return a legitimate twist, rather than a hasty retcon for the final film.
So, how would you go about doing it?
- In the Exegol opening, cut out most of Palpy’s dialogue. Maybe keep some vague line like “Come to me” (“Huh, what? Who said that? That sounded like Palpatine!”), or just replace the whole thing with Sith Whispers. Cut to black with a little music sting as Kylo walks off camera, to investigate
Palpatinesomething. (“Ooh, what’s he looking at? What’s on Exegol?” Mystery, baby; that’s what.) Fade in on Rey.- During the Resistance Intel Meeting, trim direct references to Palpatine. Focus on the discussions about the Sith Fleet on Exegol. “It’s gonna blow us all up if we don’t find it!”
- Rey tells Leia they have to find a way to find a Way-Finder (God, this movie…) in order to “Find Exegol.
Find the Emperor.”- Kylo Boardroom Meeting is fine. They just talk about the Sith Cultists, the Fleet, and a mysterious “he.” (Who’s “he,” you ask? It’s a mystery, baby!!)
- In the Pasaana Skype Call, replace Kylo’s line “Palpatine wants you dead” with the later “Wherever you are, you’re hard to find.” Or, heck, just have him stare at Rey menacingly. I don’t care.
- Move Kylo’s Palpatine conversation back to right before Endor. Or overdub the scene completely. Have Kylo talk to himself, something like, “Please, Rey. Join me. Let me find you.” Or even call back to TFA, say “Grandfather, help me find her.”
- Slot in a shot of the Emperor during Rey’s Dagger Vision, have his laugh linger in the air after the vision fades. She whispers a disbelieving “No…” in response.
- Replace Kylo’s next line with the previously swapped out “Palpatine wants you dead.”
- Re-add the scene of Palps raising the Sith Fleet out of the ground to right after Rey leaves Ahch-To. He’s preparing the Fleet to depart.
The rest of it should play out exactly the same, I’m pretty sure.
So, in summary, you’d get:
- A better structured sense of building stakes.
- A surprising, twist Emperor reveal that’s actually built towards and hinted at, rather than a quick, “Hello, boys! I’m baaaaaaack!” in the first five minutes.
- Gives Palpatine’s return more personal stakes to Rey, as she’s the one who discovers it…instead of Hux?
- Palpatine’s plan doesn’t contradict itself every other scene. (Kill her! Don’t kill her! Bring her to me! No, lure her here! Oh, she’s here anyway? Kill me! You won’t? Fine, kill her! No wait, I can just suck up her life force! Ha, I’m a genius!)
- The Sith Fleet rising is now an actual source of tension, and is a visual representation of the Fleet being ready to depart. (Shit Poe, you’ve gotta take them down now!) No more “Okay boys, you in place? Great. Just hang out here for
16 hoursan arbitrary amount of time until I feel like launching the ships, cool? Maybe wait for like 20 minutes after the Resistance arrives. Then you can start leaving.”- Have Rey say “No…” to something actually significant while holding the Dagger, instead of *checks notes* repeating an echo of a vision of a memory of herself that the knife reminded her of? (God, this movie…)
I know that we’re trying to incorporate the Dagger-Vision angle for Ascendant, which is the first piece to all of this; but this felt like one of those “dramatic changes” that Hal probably wouldn’t jump on right away - hence my suggesting it here. But you never know, Hal…
Oh, my God… this sounds… AMAZING!!! XD
Duo you still have it? 😃
A shame this never came to fruition, because the breakdown in the OP sounds really promising. 😃
Holy shit, we are nearing 600 pages of replies already! 😱