I have a feeling this edit has become lost. Unless a miracle happens, I doubt we’ll be seeing a single trace of this edit again any time soon — or ever.
Here’s the general update, since people are asking. Yes there was a workprint, but there’ve been so many changes since then that I’ve taken it down for now. There will be a new workprint eventually. I said I was going to send one out a few months ago but had second thoughts. Part of my dilemma at this point is how long I’m willing to wait for elements that are being made for Hal’s edit to be ready. I know in the meantime some of these things have been finished, and I plan to add them and potentially do another workprint then. But in the meantime I am busy with the holidays and finishing up a V2 of my ROTS edit.
Thanks for your patience everyone!
That’s understandable. Take care and happy holidays. I’ll certainly check out your next workprint when the time comes. 🙂
There is a workprint, I’ve seen it. Just give Dom some time to get back to you.
Right. 😌
I wonder if a workprint of this even exists? 🤔
It seems that they buried the fans wishes even though we know about most of them and Peter Jackson spoke about most of them in commentaries and we have seen small snippets and so on.
Yeah bit of a let down to be honest.
Wow. WarnerMedia really are useless when not talking about the Snyder Cut. 🙄
“No, it’s too dangerous”
I’ve haven’t really been too fond of this fucking line in sci-fi/fantasy media myself. 😅
Is it possible that VFX can be done to remove it hanging from her belt in the shot where she runs to grab the Jedi texts during the Resistance briefing?
We’ve already tried everything there. A crop cuts too much off. VFX would be too large of a task.
If it were up to me, I’d just remove that entire brief scene of Rey running up to the chest with the books in it. So she runs away in the middle of the Resistance meeting only to return with the books (still makes sense). Plus, Merry has a weird line in the background of that brief scene. Something like, “There were always whispers of his hunger to cheat death.” Most people didn’t know of Palpy’s Sith origin in the Empire, so it’s a strange line to say the least.
Great idea for a compromise, Jar Jar! With the name of a character as reviled by the Star Wars community as can be, that is certainly something I don’t think anyone in-universe would even dream of saying! ^^;
Me too!:
“‘Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone’ Director Wants His Original 3-Hour Cut Released: ‘Put Peeves Back in’”
https://www.thewrap.com/harry-potter-and-the-sorcerers-stone-3-hour-cut-release-chris-columbus-comments/
Should we get #ReleaseTheColumbusCut trending, everyone? 😏
And JJ, I must applaud your efforts on removing the green screen from the “Dudley’s Redemption” deleted scene. Hopefully, there will come a time when the rest of the noticeable green screen layouts will be adequately erased from the picture, but this is a huge step forward! I will most certainly be using this, with a touch of my own colour correction, for when I decide to pursue a two-in-one condensed version of DH someday. 😃
Thank you Colin Robinson.
Ha ha! 😂
Idungeddit. 🤷♂️
CamSMurph the plan is the same as the last time I answered this same question from you.
I’ll take that as a “no”, then. 😅
I hope you’ll take extra care this coming winter. Flu season is right around the corner and we wouldn’t want to end up back to square one. 🤞
I had not been in this thread for quite a while, and I am sorry to hear about any health issues and would like to wish you the best.
Hal thank you! Luckily I’m slowly bouncing back from severe pneumonia (and pulmonary embolism) and tests came back negative for cancer. So I’m doing much better.
Does this mean you’re foregoing your planned retirement from fan editing?
No, or at least not unless something changes on MR’s end. His computer is kaput and he expressed a desire to retain a few things for his own fan edit. And while that moment is cool and insanely well done, it doesn’t bear in any of the other changes and is okay not to get.
Well, shit, Hal! It’s been five months now and MR has been shit out of luck since then. I have no idea what’s going on with him now, but I hope his holidays go along as smoothly as they can in his current situation. 😧
I’m not waiting on anything from jonh for the ghosts. The only shot that was affected by his upgraded work has been put in place.
Right, right. 😅
How are the VFX coming along? I believe it’s Rey’s eyes and Anakin’s saber that’s left. Unless I’m forgetting something else. I promise I’ll be patient.
Well, the Phantom Four by jonh still needs an upgrade. 🙃
Wasn’t that one side shot of Anakin already upgraded back in May?
I know, but I wonder if he’s been able to work on something else. 😃
How are the VFX coming along? I believe it’s Rey’s eyes and Anakin’s saber that’s left. Unless I’m forgetting something else. I promise I’ll be patient.
Well, the Phantom Four by jonh still needs an upgrade. 🙃
Has jonh reached back with his updated force ghost VFX yet? 🤔
May I please grab a link to v3.0, good sir? 😃
I didn’t mean to derail, my intention in posting all of what I said was that I think what we have locked for v2 now is a significant improvement over the original while still residing within what was ultimately decided for the film. My two cents is that a lot of these other ideas on Palpatine’s plan have their merits, but may belong in a Starlight/Rekindled branch of this project.
Poppa should get on that, actually. See what he can do with the material at his disposal.
That’s what I like about Hal’s edits: they don’t deviate too much from the original film, they mostly seek to enhance what’s already there.
“Truer to the filmmakers’ intentions?” 🤨
Don’t mean to speak for JarJar but I don’t really understand the confusion here.
What were J.J.'s intentions for TFA exactly?
Again, I do like this idea and wish it could be fully realized without seams. But by this point my TFA edit is a diet version of Nev’s Starlight, and my TLJ edit is a diet version of poppasketti’s Rekindled, so I wonder what this edit will end up a diet version of??
I don’t see them as Diet Hal, without your hard work we wouldn’t have half of what we have. I haven’t been around the forums as long as a lot of you but have seen enough to know that almost all editors take inspiration from your edits and even use them as their main to work off.
As for TROS this seems to be the fan bases main thread.
Neither do I. In fact, I’m planning on continuing to use Restructured because it’s truer to the original filmmakers intentions.
That’s what I like about Hal’s edits: they don’t deviate too much from the original film, they mostly seek to enhance what’s already there.
“Truer to the filmmakers’ intentions?” 🤨
Holy shit, there are a lot of ideas on how to revise Palpatine’s master plan, aren’t there? I wonder whose will ultimately come out on top before V2 is locked and ready for release? 😃
I’ve been hoping that Warner Bros would do something like this, or even better, release even more deleted scenes that people haven’t seen yet, while also putting a little money into the unfinished VFX. You’d be spending even less money than over $50 million on reconstructing Zack Snyder’s cut of Justice League. But, it seems like they’re not going to do anything special like that to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Philosopher’s Stone.
A man can dream, though. A man can dream. 😔
By this point my TFA edit is a diet version of Nev’s Starlight, and my TLJ edit is a diet version of poppasketti’s Rekindled, so I wonder what this edit will end up a diet version of??
Yes… I wonder? 🤔
Maybe krausfadr or Acbagel will step up to the plate, I dunno. 🤷♂️
I think they should just release new extended cuts of all eight movies on HBO Max already. I’ve been hoping to see an official DH two-in-one extended cut called The Deathly Hallows, released in a similar vein to Zack Snyder’s Justice League.
Okay, okay… I’m spitballing here, it might sound crazy… but what if we’re approaching this backwards? What if the most straightforward way to sell Palpatine’s plan is to actually take him at his word at the end, and instead remove all traces of him wanting Rey dead?
Opening on Exogol: Palpatine offers the fleet “if you do as I ask.” Kylo, after a moment considering it, silently lowers his saber in agreement. Palpatine smiles menacingly to end the scene: a deal has been struck, but we the audience don’t know what. We can still guess, however, that it could be Rey-related, because Hal’s edit transitions right into Rey meditating.
Board room meeting now has a new context to it. When an officer asks Kylo what the Emperor wants, Kylo silences him immediately. We the audience don’t know what Kylo and the Emperor’s deal was, so we don’t know that Kylo’s outburst is unreasonable; on the contrary, we’re now more intrigued that Kylo is keeping this so secretive.
When Palpatine chastises Kylo after Pasaana, remove references to killing Rey. Full remaining dialog:
“Perhaps you have betrayed me. Do not make me turn my fleet against you.”
“I know where she’s going. She will never be a Jedi.”
“Make sure of it.”
We now know for certain, though we already suspected, that Kylo’s agreement involves Rey somehow. The threat, however, is still vague.From here out, Kylo mentions twice aboard his ship on Kijimi that Palpatine tried to kill Rey as a kid, reveals that she’s a Palpatine, and suggests that they should team up instead. We think we get it now: not only is this the big reveal that Rey is a Palpatine, but it’s the big reveal of Kylo’s mission to kill her and finish the job.
After Endor, Palpatine says that Leia has ruined his plans. We assume this is because Kylo couldn’t kill her. But we’re still assuming wrong.
Finally, on Exegol, in a genuine third act twist, we learn the truth from Palpatine himself, unedited: he never wanted her dead, he wanted her here with him. The audience can now infer that bringing Rey to Exogol was Kylo’s true mission all along, and Kylo had lied to Rey about Palpatine trying to kill her as part of his attempt to manipulate her to his own ends, planning to betray Palpatine from the beginning. Even the times it seemed Kylo was genuinely trying to kill Rey, he was spiting the Emperor rather than serving him. And since Kylo must have actually known Palpatine’s true goal all along, as Ben he is now rushing back to Exogol because he knows Rey is playing into Palpatine’s hands.
Thoughts?
Oh… my… Gosling! Hal, get on this immediately! 😄