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#266115
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Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266115/action/topic#266115
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You're damn right about the writing being on the wall. As soon as that '95 release said "own the trilogy for the last time." Red fucking flags should have gone up and told us to expect some pretty crooked shit.

Really sad that it'snow become a "if only..." type of thing. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out over time. Will people one day realize that 1-3 suck and that thye ruined the whole thing? I think that will be the case. I remember people thinking Pearl Jam and Nirvana were awesome when they first came out, but after a few years, they couldn't stand them anymore. When the new-ness and the novelty of the prequels wears off, I think people will realize that they aren't what they're cracked up to be.

What will happen then, I wonder? Eventually, SW will just become another sci-fi film that has good parts and bad parts and the common reaction will be, "Meh." It won't have the enduring effect that the LOTR books had, that's for sure.

Way to go, George....you killed your own creation. Dipshit.

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#266107
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The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266107/action/topic#266107
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Damn, you're right!!!

Crank post!!! Crank post!!!

Screw the death penalty and the harsh prisons. When someone gets sent to jail, we need to be caring and understanding. All these murders, rapists and child molesters really need is a BIG hug. That will cure everything.

In fact....the victims should be apologizing for the crime. The criminal obviously couldn't help themselves and the victim is the blame. If the victim wasn't there, tempting the criminal unknowingly, then nothing would have happened.

There...I think that's about right now.
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#266102
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Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266102/action/topic#266102
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Yeah....it is pretty fucked up both ways.

I know a little bit about writing and plotting and such, so I know when something works and when it doesn't. Lucas deliberately tried to play to his audience. He's done that to the detriment of his story. That's really disappointing. It's also phony as hell. He says he's an artist and he's all for the artist to do things the way they want to do, but he if really was an artist, he wouldn't have tried to appease anyone. He would have done what was best for his art. He even fucking says so in the commentary that he knew people wanted that stuff in. Fuck that.....you do what's best for the story. If you have to leave something out, then you do it. Roger fucking Waters knew to do that with Dark Side Of The Moon and look how that turned out...fucking masterpiece album. Lucas is a two faced phony who's bowing to one thing only...the almighty dollar.

Too bad the story of Star Wars was the ultimate casuality here. It had a chance to be the best piece of fiction since the LOTR books. Lucas had the keys to the kingdom and fucked it all up. That's what pisses me off more than anything. I would fucking DIE to be in a position to tell a really good story like that. This moron gets the opportunity and makes totall shit and an ass of himself in the process. The ultimate justice is that he doesn't realize it and everyone keeps kissing his ass anyway. I'd like to see the actual story of Star Wars (1-6) critiqued by some honest to God professional writers. Lucas would get so ripped to shreds.

The whole thing just pisses me off cuz I'm a writer and would love to have been in his shoes.

I've always entertained the idea of writing my own version of Star Wars as a series of novellas, making it 9 or 12 parts each only being about a 100 pages. I doubt anyone would like to read it and it would get dismissed as some fanboy obsession.
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#266094
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The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266094/action/topic#266094
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You forgot those damn outfits that Manson wears. If anyone should be put to death, it's him for wearing that fucked up shit......

I think prisons are far too comfortable for convicts. It should be a rough place to be. I think it should be a combination boot camp/work farm. Put a bunch of Sgt. Hartmans (see Full Metal Jacket) in charge and let them fucking wail on these prisoners. Make their lives so damn uncomfortable that they are crying like babies to get out. I guarantee that if we made prison as unpleasant both physically and mentally for these people, all but 10% or so would shape up and never come back. The ones that do....they go to the special prison where they just stay in a cage until they die. The people who do the really heinous shit get the death penalty, get one appeal and then get nuked after that appeal is denied. No waiting years on death row. You're convicted...a week later you get your appeal....a week later you're dead and buried. Fuck ya anyway. Worthless piece of shit. You want crime to stop....start making prison as unpleasant as humanly possible.
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#266089
Topic
Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266089/action/topic#266089
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Originally posted by: SW
Am surprised how quickly ep 3 changes and joines in with ep IV


That's one of the things I don't like about the ending of ep3. It does end a little too abruptly. The other films allow you to catch your breath after all the action and then they end. Ep3 does slow down, but it throws all this shit at you in those last minutes...way too much shit I might add and then it abruptly ends and connects TOO much with Ep4.

It should have ended the whole PT on a melancholy note with everything tied up but sets up Ep4. Remember there's 20 years in between 3 and 4. The end of 3 should feel like things are gonna be this way for a long time.

I don't know really....not sure I'm articulating this correctly. The ending should have just been done differently, that's all. It doesn't feel right to me.
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#266085
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If George Lucas Did Lord of the Rings
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266085/action/topic#266085
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I didn't watch the video cuz it's blocked here at work, but....

I used to think that if anyone could pull off doing LOTR as a film, Lucas was the man. I remember thinking this after I discovered the books back in the early 90s. Lucas was the only person who could successfully pull it off.

After seeing the prequels.....shit....I'm glad he never got his hands on it. Would have fucked it up so royally.
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#266083
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The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266083/action/topic#266083
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I would like to host today's discussion....the death penalty.

Naturally, Gomer feels that this is wrong. We should take the moral high ground and demonstrate to people who commit heinous crimes...such as killing multiple people and eating their remains or killing a pregnant woman and then cutting her baby out of her womb...that killing them is not the answer to their crimes of killing others. As Gomer has said before..."Two wrongs do not make a right."

We should just let people like this, who are worthless pieces of shit, live and continue to support them with our tax dollars so they can live in semi-comfort for the rest of their lives since they can't be let out for their crimes, right? We should just let Manson and others like him continue to exist and put food in their mouths and a roof over their head, right? Even though he's killed quite a few people, right?

Of course....cuz that's the Gomer way of thinking.


Well, that's all I have. Until tomorrow, when somebody else hosts this has been the Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread.



Disclaimer: The above statement or question does not reflect my own personal opinion. This comment also does not reflect the opinion of Go-Mer-Tonic™. The above was a random controversial topic posted for entertainment purposes only.
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#265919
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Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265919/action/topic#265919
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Yeah....ESB introduced something more to the first film and it was done very well.

I never minded the Luke/Leia thing. I agree that it was kinda stupid to make the two siblings, but only cuz it was handled really bad. You find out they're related and nothing comes of it. Now if Leia had showed up in that throne room on the Death Star at the end of ROTJ.....damn.....that would have kicked the movie up a few notches and would have put it in the same league as ESB.
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#265903
Topic
Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265903/action/topic#265903
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I hear what you're saying CO....

You make a VERY interesting point though.....I think it would have been genius to have never explained who Vader was in the prequel. Maybe have us believe that Anakin died during the fight with Obi-Wan and then just have this new apprentice, Vader show up and start helping the Emperor whoop Jedi ass.

There's quite a few directions to go in. Some bring up some serious continuity errors....but given some talented creativity, Lucas could have come up with something really ingenious.....instead he seemed to take the easy and lazy right which was to write them as prequels and make it all one big story. He should have stuck to what the press "created"....those three trilogies that were all separate stories, but slightly interconnected.

I think the biggest mistake was to shift the focus to Anakin. That was retarded to the extreme. The PT should have been about Anakin and the OT was about Luke, plain and simple, cut and dry.
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#265878
Topic
Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265878/action/topic#265878
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I don't think there was any way to save the "surprises" in the OT when the PT got made. It just wasn't possible. An unfortunate by product of making the PT, that's all. it does suck, but what can ya do really.

I do agree that the trilogies should have been more seperate. No droids in the prequels, things wrapped up between 3 and 4 a little neater, etc. There was too many loose ends between the trilogies. I don't think they are connected all that well. Lucas seemed to do it in a way that felt more out of obligation that for the sake of story flow.

Then again, I may not know what I'm talking about here. The whole thing just feels wrong now, that's all.
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#265838
Topic
Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265838/action/topic#265838
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Well, despite his criticisms of the PT and the intended order, he ultimately came to the conclusion that he really enjoys the saga and prefers to watch them in that order. So I wouldn't say it was exactly a rousing success for us.

I agree, but I think that's to be expected. People will ultimately watch them in the intended order and have this same reaction, I'm sure. It's the little things that he says that makes me laugh...

For the newer Episodes, you can practically see George sitting at his Mac on top of his pile of money and giggling as he types lines line 'Whoa, that's tense' and 'How rude!' I looked it up and he was never a writer for Full House, which means he came up with those ditties all on his own. It could be the 4 o'clock in the morning talking, but it's almost as if he didn't have anyone proofreading his scripts. And did he even hire a casting director?

I like that one.

Obviously the CGI in the newer films is impressive, but to actually see what Lucas was able to do with limited technology is almost even more impressive.


If that doesn't give us a boost, I don't know what the hell will!!! Someone is actually more impressed with what Lucas did back then than what he can do now with all the technology in the world at his feet.

For me, the biggest problem with seeing these films in their intended order is that Episodes IV-VI offered little surprises. I know who Luke's father is; I know that the little creature is Yoda. I have to sit through that uncomfortable kiss between Luke and Leia knowing that they are indeed brother and sister. Most of the mysteries and questions that drive the plots of the later episodes are nullified by having seen the first three. I almost envied those who saw them in original order, so I too could have enjoyed the shock and surprise of some of the plot's twists and turns. Luckily I was never a fan of bellbottoms, so I will indeed stick with the intended order.


This is to be expected though....I knew this would happen as soon as we heard there would be a PT. No surprise. Even if the PT was stellar, we would still have to deal with the suprises in the OT being ruined.

But in the end, I agree with ferris209...show the movies to anyone starting with ANH. As far as I personally am concerned, there is no 1,2 or 3 though.
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#265675
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The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265675/action/topic#265675
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I think Gomer is a dick with no life and needs to get laid. Can we debate this?

You all realize that when he sees this thread, he's going to wet his pants, knowing that he's gotten to us to the point where we're starting threads about him like this.

I personally think an "official and recognized" effort should be made to get him permanently banned from this board. He's trolling and uses politeness and self-humility to hide it. Of course, his age old excuse is that he's "just looking to hear opinions." There is such a thing as fucking with people without looking like you're fucking with people. This is exactly what Gomer does. It's proven cuz he doesn't post in any other threads except those that are "hot" debates. He never complains about personal attacks to a mod (at least not to any of our knowledge, I'm sure we would have heard about that if it did happen) and always keeps the discussion going in circles by making snide little comments meant to stir the pot.

I don't care if he makes this board more exciting or whatever. I'd rather not have him here cuz it's going to result in something bad eventually. It has nothing to do with his dissenting views. He's dissenting just to fuck with people. I mean, come on....you can TELL he's fucking with people. If anyone can't see it, they're stoned or something.
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#265464
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Naked Parties
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265464/action/topic#265464
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
That you are two-faced, facetious, and too much of a dumb-fuck to realize it?

Dude, we're ahead of you by light-years on that one.


Gomer....all you do is illicit responses like this from people. You are here on this board to solely fuck with people. You do it such a way that there is no way for you to get banned, so it just keeps going and going. Aren't you bored with it yet? Is you life that empty and mundane that you feel the need to screw with people on a message board?

No one here has problems with dissenting views but you just keep the discussions going in circles. You never bring in anything to back up your views and statements while others have brought in all kinds of things to back up what they're saying....and you make snide little comments and cap it off with an emoticon to stir things up again. See my sig, asshole. You prove it everyday you post here. You just don't insult anyone so you are allowed to stay.

The most pussy thing you do is simply ignore what you don't want to respond to.

What I would like to know is this: you get some pretty mean personal attacks thrown at you? Have you ever complained to a mod about it? If you haven't, then it's clear that you just here to fuck with people and I STRONGLY feel the mods should step in and either discipline you in some way or simply ban you. I don't care if you make this place interesting or whatever. You are a troublemaker and should not be here. I think there are plenty of other users here who agree with me too....
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#265386
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Serenity
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265386/action/topic#265386
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The show is an awesome piece of work. It needed more time to reach the heights of awesomeness that it could have achieved. Stupid Fox Network.....fuckers ruined the best sci-fi show in years.

The chick on the Serenity cover is clearly River. What are you gents smoking? Pass is around please!!!
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#265384
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Naked Parties
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265384/action/topic#265384
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Yeah I'm off in my own little world, just like everyone else is.

Did your mother have any children that lived?

To me being partisan means: I don't know know everything about politics, so I'm going with these guys.


To me your posts mean: "I need to get laid."





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#265102
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Naked Parties
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/265102/action/topic#265102
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I was hoping someone would appreciate that.

walks right up to Gomer and gives him a quick lookover, then takes a step back, looks Gomer in the eye and says...

Dork.

What do liberals in the US stand for? What do they want? Why do most people here don't like liberals?


Liberals in America are of the annoying subspecies of liberal. See...not all liberals are bad and liberalism is not a bad thing unto itself. It's the nimrod dipshits who populate our country and call themselves liberal....they are what has ruined liberalism across the board.

If you would like any evidence....simply look at everything Gomer writes. I rest my case.