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#570715
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
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XyZ said:

One last word,

Any fault involves that you have some reponsability in a situation. For the few I did I think I apologised enough (if you can read or listen). But that's not because you are able to point at someone else's fault that you don't make ones too... And that's not neither because nobody mention any to you that you don't make any.

I haven't been here to "give lessons" er professor. Too bad if sharing some personal views with my two cents philosophycal touch whatever I make it through jokes or rants (and whatever the subject !) has been taken as such by someone who can't stand a false illusion of "awesomeness" I've been sticked with despite my will. But that's the effect it did on a couple of dudes unfortunately and one of them hasn't been greedy giving a lot of lessons back.

Sensitivity you say ?... Who knows me here ?... I gave a few strings through a virtual "character" on a virtual forum and you think that sums up the whole being behind the keyboard ?... Seriously ?

I read your post a couple of times, and I think for the most part I have understood what you are trying to write. First off, I am not claiming to be perfect or faultless. Hardly! Second, I never claimed to know you. I don't know anything about you beyond the way you behave and act on this forum, and I don't claim to know more. Bottom line is you kept badgering Warb and I called you out on it. In the past you've badgered him pretty hard, even when he has made it clear you are annoying and upsetting him and he just wants you to stop, you tend to persist in your badgering by offering ways he can improve his life. 

 

Would it be sob stuff to point at the thing that upseted me the MOST lately, something I didn't take care to mention ?...

Here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Can-you-list-name-the-greatest-examples-in-the-world-of-epic-heroic-myths-past-and-present/post/566695/#TopicPost566695

This boy won't have any chance to face his reponsabilities in life, on the contrary of some who keep complaining years after years publicly. He has had an accident being younger, and isn't armed like someone like you, Warbler or I. That I hardly find "amusing", whatever you meant precisely.

Maybe it was wrong I said that, I didn't intend it negatively. I have actually jumped to Tim's defense in the past. I didn't mean it as a knock against him, Tim goes off on some funny post (and I mean funny in a positive way, perhaps "cute" would be an okay word to use, though it sounds a bit gay), meanwhile you go off on some pretty crazy stuff yourself (and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way either; there have been plenty of times I found your stuff interesting or amusing). My comment came from the thought of two users with very unique posting styles engaging in a one on one conversation. I am actually very sorry you didn't bother to mention how much it upset you, if I were picking on Timbox, or taking sly shots at him, I'd certainly deserve to be called out on it.

 

Anyway... You can't forgive if you can't forget.

So, just drop your anger and vulgarity once for all or accept some may make a fun of it. 

I wasn't angry, but I was very vulgar and I feel you deserved every word of it.

People can make fun of it if they want, but I don't think it would be very funny or amusing. If they can manage to get a good giggle out of it, I am all for it. You keep making some really awkward threats/statements about things that will happen to me. First that I am going to lose friends, and now that I will get made fun of. I am not sure if something is getting lost in translation... or if you are just trying to make a case for karma or some such silly business. 

 

PS: I'd like add a word in favor of Bingowing who contacted me my PM when I posted Warb's picture as he thought that was a bad idea.

Well I should hope so, it was a very immature and mean spirited thing to do, the only other forum member who thought it was a good idea was the guy who spends most his free time stoned as hell.

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#570585
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

walkingdork said:

For the record I didn't bring up the past, Warbler and Bingo did.

Nope. The way I remember it, and the posts back me up on this, you asked Warb to unignore you, and he did. So you then suggested that he unignore Bingo too, and he explained why he didn't want to. Ultimately this got people asking about the past and Bingo and ABC queefing eloquent about their awesomeness and how they are never at fault.

I know you didn't mean any harm. Just saying.

Anyway, that wasn't a serious anger filled "fuck you" to everyone, I am not pissed off at anyone. ABC's relentless BS toward Warb just irritates me, and I feel he needs to be called out on it.

 

I just read it and have a better understanding of where Warbler is coming from. I'm glad I read it too, or I would still be telling warbler to suck it up. Warbler and I have had a private conversation about it as well and we're cool.

That is good to hear.

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#570582
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

XyZ said:

CP3S said:

... and then you preaching at him for how very wrong he is and why he is such a loser in real life.

 

Wow ! Your words these are.

I was explaining that this is what you guys would do. I don't think he is a loser. You guys would point out all his faults based on the things he was saying to you guys on the forum and tell him that is why he was having trouble in the real world. That is bullshit. You no nothing about him in the real world.

 

I consider Warbler superior as a human being to what he says he is. If you keep on defending him and comforting him in his whining attitude
instead of convincing him he has enough strengh and ressources to surpass this and be above it all, I don't call you helpful.

By not being an asshole to him I am enabling him? I am not comforting him in his "whining attitude", I am just telling you to lay the fuck off and stop tearing into him. You may think you are being helpful in some sick way, but you are not. You are just being an asshole to someone who lives thousands of miles away from you because he is an easy target.

 

In the end I send you my congratulations to both of you Warb and CP3, as you got what you asked for explicitly two weeks ago: a forum whithout ABC posting. You may have lost a few friends by way of contrast though. Sorry if it happened.

I am pretty sure all my friends are intact, thank you. If I lost any friends here on account of what I said to you, they really weren't worth anything as friends begin with, so no apologies needed.

 

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#570548
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

Fuck the rest of you too. I am sure this thread (with a title originally calling out Warbler personally) was made with the best of intentions, but all you managed to do was bring back old problems. The ignore feature exists for a reason, let Warbler ignore whoever the hell he wants without giving him grief, and butt out of old issues you know absolutely nothing about.

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#570541
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

XyZ said:

But that's not the problem anyway. The problem is only between Warbler and Warbler. Now I'm not a monster and I don't want to add to his distress. Because unfortunately that's what humour, as innofensive as it is, can do to someone who hasn't that sense at all. :/

ABC, you are one dumb motherfucking asshole if you can't see you are the sole aggressor here. Maybe Warbler is being too sensitive on somethings, but you are still being a provoking piece of shit. In every situation where there is an issue between you two, it is you picking Warb to pieces, him getting fed up and asking you to stop, and then you preaching at him for how very wrong he is and why he is such a loser in real life. You are a fucking worthless bully, you add nothing to this forum but dumbass shit and drama. This instance is a good example of your bullshit, when he says he wants to be left alone, you push harder and make fun of him by taking his avatar and mocking him with it, then you make a comment about how the whole thing is on him. This is the short of shit you've always done with him.

Warbler is one of the least aggressive guys on this forum, there would be no tension here if you didn't feel the need to press him and be a total dick to him. You've been saying since the beginning that this is only between Warbler and Warbler. Why, because it is his own damn fault for taking it hard when you mock him and pick on him? Because he is an easy target and it makes you feel good to know you can bring him down. Fuck you, you worthless French piece of shit.

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#570339
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

Warbler said:

I'm done.   Maybe I also need to take a break from the forum for a while.   I don't know.  

Don't take a break from the forum! I'd miss you. I know we disagree a lot politically, often times very strongly, but you are very high on my list of fellow members I care the most for. If you need to vent, let off some steam, or talk about anything, shoot me a PM. You know I am always good for that. 

 

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#569834
Topic
Electro-Magnetic Thread
Time

I said:

"The AMA may be a big greedy entity with loads of wealth and power, but even if they are, they'd have to rig every microscope in the world and be able to practice influence over the bodies of every human being and animal on the planet in order for germ theory to stand as firmly as it does if it is a conspiracy."

 

You (doubleKO) responded:

"There could never be an AMA conspiracy! Except for maybe the three or four times that they were convicted of um... conspiracy."

 

I never said there could never be an AMA conspiracy. I simply said the provable evidence all firmly indicates that germ theory is accurate, and that for there to be an AMA conspiracy at the level you are suggesting they'd have to be able to exercise incredible power over every organism and tool for viewing microorganisms in order to create all this "false" evidence supporting germ theory. But since they've committed conspiracy in the past (not as exciting or intriguing as it sounds if you take the time to read about those cases), I am clearly wrong and your belief that a man once discovered a way to cure "all disease" but was suppressed by the greedy AMA is entirely justified.

 

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#569723
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

Warbler said:

whatever.    I think you just don't want to see your fault in all of this.  

oh well,  I tried.

Give it up, Warb. There is a reason I nicknamed him Pontifex Maximus, the fact that he found that nickname so amusing he used it in his description speaks volumes. You'll never convince him he is wrong in anyway.

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#569707
Topic
The "Let's Hug It Out" Thread (we all like SW, can't we be friends?)
Time

XyZ said:

^ I think it's rare having Bingo having to explain his posts... How many times I pointed out to some we don't have so serious language barriers but rather wavelength barriers. Was a time when even C3PS used to explain the idea behind my posts to those who used to take grip out of my words uselessly.

I used to rather like you and cared to take time to read your drivel and try to understand it. Every now and then, I still take the time. I speak multiple languages, and I think that goes a long ways in finding understanding through the language barrier (especially when it comes to syntax). It really isn't worth the effort because so many of your posts are just judgmental BS touting your impressive level of enlightenment over the rest of us.* Darth Ender summed you up perfectly. You really do pick Warbler to shreds, then you claim to be perfectly innocent, any fault to be found belonging strictly to Warb.

 

 

* The "wavelength barrier" comment being a good example of this BS. Face it, your English sucks. Not a slam, my French is nonexistent and so therefore infinitely worse than your English. I simply mean any problems other people have understanding you has nothing to do with wavelength or the pseudoscience you always talk about (that stuff is extremely popular and well known in the states), and everything to do with you having a hard time conveying your thoughts and views in the English language.

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#569228
Topic
Video Games - a general discussion thread
Time

Don't worry about it georgec, I am pretty sure DJ is the only one who read your post and took it as a serious accusation rather than just a joke. He tends to be kind of sensitive sometimes.

 

xhonzi said:

CP3S said:

Minecraft.

Just played it for the first time two night ago, and again last night. Wow, this game is really stupid. It is a massive waste of time, can be really frustrating, and the graphics make my eyes hurt.

That being said, this is the most fun I've had playing a game in a while. Playing with friends makes for a really fun experience.

My 30 minutes or so with Minecraft didn't hook me at all.  I didn't play with any friends, so maybe that's what I was missing.  I made a block house with a bookcase wall, I dug a really deep hole, I made a stair case to nowhere... and then I was done.

I tried playing it alone for a bit myself earlier this evening, I lasted five minutes before feeling incredibly bored and movied on to do something else. Yeah, playing with friends definitely makes it more fun.

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#569018
Topic
Religion
Time

XyZ said:

CP3S said:

I bet he is about to start talking about vertical erections again soon.

 For those who don't ignore me yet, I'd like to point out CP3S's deep ignorance and misinterpretation of what I call a "vertical erection"....

It isn't deep ignorance or misinterpretation, I am familiar with the chakra. It was a joke. When you very first showed up in off topic long long ago, you starting going on about "the vertical force" and several of us made jokes about it and referenced it for a bit, you seemed to get in there and laugh with us, which made me think you might have picked up on our joking, but I have never really been sure.

 

... And totally religion related. If this is the reason you put me on ignore... Well.. Haha.

Is that addressed at me? I am very happy to hear any comments or ideas you have on any religion. When you engage in real discussion, I usually find what you have to say very interesting. I put you on ignore because I sometimes find your posts really annoying, you post in nearly every thread and they are frequently just a couple of sentences long and don't make sense in the English. Sometimes it is easier to follow the conversation without those posts in the way.

 

Sorry I'm not discussing on Islam and Christian writtings. I guess I'm just different. Certainly I'd look like an atheist for the people you're discussing about in this thread.

So sad.

This sentence doesn't make much sense. I am trying to figure out what you mean by it. Care to give it another go?

I could be totally off, but what I am interpreting is that you are trying to make a tongue-in-cheek apology for talking about religions other than Islam and Christianity, suggesting that you feel the comments being made about you are because you are talking about religions we don't want to hear about. Right?  As for the atheist comment, I can't make heads or tails of it.

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#568728
Topic
Religion
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georgec said:

CP3S said:

 But thank goodness the Kuran is incorruptible, so that won't ever happen again.

How can someone be objective and logical with that kind of attitude?

No, seriously, the Koran (dude, I totally spelled it wrong in the above quote) claims that the two religions that came before it are corrupt as hell, while pointing out that it itself is corruption proof. I just think that is really funny. Could be something out of an infomercial, "Unlike other leading brand religions, Islam is now 100% corruption proof!" Why didn't God think of putting this magical corruption deterrent on his other religious texts? Live and learn, I guess.

I am not being objective, I am being as biased as they come, but my logic is sound.

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#568711
Topic
Religion
Time

To avoid wasting time skimming my massive "wall of logic" above, one could simply read this bit of Akwat's post, which pretty much covers everything valid in this discussion:

It's not quite that simple, though. Islam does not teach that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same God. Rather, it holds that Allah is the only true and living God to which the Jewish and Christian Scriptures originally testified. However, those Scriptures have become corrupted over time and therefore by the time of Muhammad were no longer to be considered completely reliable. Just as Joseph Smith's angelic vision is held by Mormons to signal the restoration of doctrinal truth, so also Muhammad's angelic vision is held by Muslims to signal the restoration of doctrinal truth. This is the Islamic doctrine of abrogation: where the Old and New Testaments err, the Qu'ran and Hadith correct them--and one of the most egregious errors in Jewish and Christian Scripture, according to Islamic teaching, is the departure from belief in Allah and the concomitant advocacy of false gods (Yahweh/Jehovah, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, etc.). The only way that Jews or Christians may come to worship the true God to whom their Scriptures originally pointed, is by converting to Islam. That's why the Islamic version of hell contains two levels reserved for the everlasting punishment of Jews and  Christians (Al-Hut?amah and Laz?a respectively; cf. Dictionary of Islam, edited by Thomas Patrick Hughes [Clifton: Reference Book Pub., 1965], 171.)

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#568709
Topic
Religion
Time

georgec said:

The ROTJ and sequel analogy doesn't work because you're essentially saying The Bible is authentic and The Quran is an illegitimate knockoff, written by a different author, at odds with the original work. Once again, The Quran is meant to be an extension of those previous teachings while correcting what it says are errors in how those faiths approached aspects of belief in God.

But it does work, my Return of the Jedi sequel isn't an illegitimate knockoff! George's trilogy just got a lot of things wrong, that my sequel corrected. If you're a true believer in George's trilogy, then it would stand to reason that you'd have to take the stance that my sequel with its countless retcons and changes is a hack work and not in any way part of continuity. If you are a believer in my sequel, then you'd have to take the stance that my sequel is the real cannon and that George's story got a lot of things wrong.

I mean, Luke didn't really grow up on Tantooine, he was a long lost Naboobian prince who got exiled when Emperor Xizor took over his planet and murdered his father and 13 older siblings. In fact, those siblings were only his half siblings. His father was a knight named Alkaline who had an affair with Queen Panda behind the Naboobian king's back. King Ricoli Olie III never knew of his queen's infidelity, but it hardly mattered because two months after the birth of the infant, originally named Prince Ricoli Olie the IX (the other male sons of king Olie III were given the names Ricoli Olie IV - VIII), the Naboobian kingdom fell. Emperor Xizor's men murdered Queen Panda's husband and 13 children before her very eyes as she tightly clutched her young illegitimate son in her arms. As the Emperor's general approached to kill the last heir to the Naboobian throne, Panda screamed out a confession to her affair, begging the general to have mercy on the infant on account of him being nothing more than the lowly son of a knight. The general, general Lars granted her this mercy, swearing an oath to raise the boy as his own son, his own wife being barren and very much wanting a child. After giving his word to the queen, she handed him the child and knelt before him so that he could smite her dead, and he did.

General Lars fabricated a story to tell the boy, that he was the son of a Noble Coresantian Knight, named Alkaline Skywalker (an entirely fictitious character named after his own father who was merely a lowly Naboobian knight killed in battle whilst cowardly running away from the battle, rather than defending the Naboobian Royal Family as was his duty). General Lars claimed Alkaline Skywalker was his wife's brother (Skywalker being his wife's family name). Luke grew up dreaming of becoming a knight, in his youth he even gathered his friends and led them on conquests, pillaging and raping small Tusken settlements and bringing the spoils back to his father, who was very proud of his son.

Anyway, you get the picture.

Clearly, a claim that these two greatly varying stories were genuinely connected and one not just stealing ideas from the other and altering them would raise a few eyebrows. A claim that they came from the same author would be impossible to accept, unless you were to believe that the earlier story was altered and screwed up, and that the later was made to fix it. Either way, there is really no argument that they are completely at odds with each other, that the characters resemble each other in name only, and that you can only take one of them seriously at a time.

 

Judaism considers itself to be the final monotheistic faith (as to them Jesus was not the Messiah). Christianity considers itself to be final as Jesus was the son of God. Islam considers itself to be final because it is the word of God.

Akwat essentially said the same thing, though perhaps a bit more accurately, when he said Christianity claims it is the fulfillment of Judaism while Islam claims to be the abrogation of Christianity (or at least Christianity in its corrupt form, which is Christianity as we know it). 

 

I don't know which one is correct (if any), but your perspective in this argument depends on which faith you have. Christians will say the Muslim God is different. Muslims will say it's the same God (but He didn't have a son). I'm not sure what Jews will say...

Because much like the two Lukes, (my Prince Ricoli Olie IX and George's Luke Skywalker), the characters of God mentioned in the Koran and God mentioned in the New Testament are very much at odds with one another.

 

You guys are saying what Islam says can't be resolved with Christianity because Christianity came first (ROTJ vs hack sequel). Then within that logic Christianity can't be resolved with Judaism, because Judaism came first. Which is the original work then - Judaism or Christianity? If one is consistent, we'd say Judaism is the original.

I think this is where your lack of understanding of Christian doctrine is tripping you up. Christianity claims to be the fulfillment of Judaism, so a Christian can easily say that the Old and New Testament mesh, even though to a Jew Christianity is a total bastardization of their religion. To a Muslim, Islam is the correction of the previous two religions that fell into the hands of corrupt people who twisted and ruined them. But thank goodness the Kuran is incorruptible, so that won't ever happen again. 

Islam can't be resolved with Christianity, not because Christianity came first, but because you'd have to throw out every part of it that made it Christianity and make it Islam in order to resolve it to Islam.

While a Jew could say the exact same thing about resolving Christianity to Judaism, at least Christianity doesn't take everything from Judaism and say that it is flat out wrong and corrupt. Rather it says that Jesus' sacrificial death fulfilled the Levitical law once and for all, so now we no longer have to make constant sacrifices in order to remain clean in God's eyes. Because of this, you can have Messianic Jews who do believe Jesus was prophesied Messiah, but for a Christian to believe the doctrines of Islam, they'd literally have to renounce everything that makes them a Christian, admitting that Christian doctrine is corrupt beyond repair and too full of falsehoods to be trusted.

 

By using the different author idea, you're holding Islam to be illegitimate w/ respect to Christianity. I don't feel this is an objective view on the matter.

I'm trying to convey that, without ruling out Islam because it came after Christianity, the common denominator is the same God.

I think that is precisely where this discussion is at, and where the disagreement lies, you'd have to take the side of Islam (along with its caveat about corruption in the other two religions) in order to make the claim that the Islamic God is the same God as the Christian God is the same god as the Hebrew God. You'd have to take the side of Christianity to say that the Christian God is the same God as the Hebrew God, while the Muslim God is just a bastardization of that God as depicted by a false religion.

The God depicted in the Koran is extremely different from the Christians' depiction of God. It is me writing about a Luke Skywalker that molested Tuskens as a teenager and saying he is the same character we see in the films. Only with my explanation that George got it wrong, can those two characters be the same.

I think what we are ultimately trying to convey, is that without accepting the teachings of Islams, you can't make the claim that all three religion share in a single deity.

Sure, just looking at the surface all three claim the same deity, but once you touch ever so lightly on the surface, things get messy.  

 

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#568686
Topic
Religion
Time

georgec said:

The God of Islam is the God of Abraham. You've basically proven my point but don't realize it.

...

That is why you are unable to see that Allah = God = Yahweh.

Let's say I take a few hours to write a sequel to Return of the Jedi. it may be at odds with the original trilogy, in my story it explains that the whole Leia is Luke's sister things was a simple mistake and they really weren't related. Luke and Leia get married and have seventeen children, Chewie becomes their butler, and Han leaves. The point being, my story doesn't mesh well with established SW lore. But yet, my story is about Luke Skywalker. THE Luke Skywalker. The one and only Luke Skywalker. My story also happens to be good enough that I publish it on my website and score myself a bit of a following. Some fans absolutely love it, for whatever reason.

But other fans read it and find it kind of insulting, it is extremely contradictory and at odds with Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi, it changes entire aspects of who the main characters are and the dynamics of the universe built in those three films.

Now, two fans have a debate. One swears it is the same Luke Skywalker as in George Lucas' SW trilogy, because the author of the story makes it perfectly clear that it is the exact same Luke Skywalker as in the trilogy, while the other fan tries to explain that the story is so at odds with the original trilogy, you can't take it as a continuation.

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#568594
Topic
Electro-Magnetic Thread
Time

XyZ said:

I'm affraid CP3Z will only buy the common usual admitted knowledge until it would become by chance, official.

No, I don't buy anything, it has nothing to do with being "official", I am skeptical of many "official" things. I believe in the methods that can be proven, and not the ones contrary to real evidence.

 

To follow DoubleKo's idea I know for instance a lot efforts (and money ?) are spent to discredit and ridiculise the Kirlian Photography (Electro-Magnetic discharge imaging) wich allows to see the invisible aura of men, plants, objects. This can make visible your state of health. I just don't understand all the sceptiscism around this, if not with DoubleKo's sad statement.

People are skeptical of Kirlian Photography because many people claim it is something it is not. It isn't because being able to see people's auras and figure out the state of their health based on those auras would crush the lucrative healthcare industry, it is because all evidence indicates that Kirlian Photography isn't dealing with some mysterious supernatural life force, but rather with properties of electricity which we fully understand. In other words: the electricity in those charged metal plates necessary for taking a Kirlian photo are 100% responsible for the aura we see in the photos. Kirlian photography is really cool, it produces some really nifty looking photos. But you're not looking at anyone's "aura" and it doesn't tell you anything about their state of health. If it can be shown objectively to tell us anything of a person's state of health, I'll believe it. If that was the case, a lot of other people would believe it too. Not believing in it has nothing to do with greed or "the man" or "the establishment", and everything to do with it being absolutely retarded with no basis in anything.