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Post: #279464
Topic: Could you answer Klaatu's question: 'Who is the greatest thinker?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279464/action/topic#279464
Time: 27-Mar-2007 9:38 AM

1. Al Gore
2. John Lennon
3. Dexter

Post: #279458
Topic: Newb question: Lucas originated vs. fan fiction
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279458/action/topic#279458
Time: 27-Mar-2007 8:41 AM

Originally posted by: yemenmocha
Yes that was the FAQ I needed thanks.

Basically my dispute with a friend boils down to me accepting the movies as the only true canon whereas she reads and memorizes all of the expanded universe fictional stuff and then "takes the high ground" and proclaims herself a more knowledgeable star wars fan. How lame. Oh well.

If she enjoys the EU that much, let her. The whole point of fiction is entertainment, if someone is entertained by it then it is doing its job. I think the EU is a pretty tangled web, but there are some things about it I really like. There are many, many parts I would rather take as "canon" than parts of the PT. Like Jaster Mareel (sp?) for instance. I thought his story was much more interesting than Ep. II's origins tell, the stuff from the story in Tales of the Bounty Hunters is a lot more convincing, I mean, who would actually name their child Boba (or Jango for that matter. The Fett family much contain generation and generations of really silly names, I bet each generation tries to out do the previous one and name there kids even more silly and embarrassing things).

Anyway, EU can be fun. When it is fun it is totally worth it, but when it is not fun it is time to put the book down. I have seen fans force feed themselves this crap (even when they are not enjoying it) just because it has the SW name on it and they feel they should know/read/see everything Star Wars to be a "real" fan.

Post: #279455
Topic: I will be away for three weeks.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279455/action/topic#279455
Time: 27-Mar-2007 8:24 AM

Take care Laserman.

Post: #279454
Topic: Star Wars prequel film noir (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279454/action/topic#279454
Time: 27-Mar-2007 8:19 AM

Great to hear you are back on it Spence. I was just wondering about this the other day.

Post: #279453
Topic: BSG
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279453/action/topic#279453
Time: 27-Mar-2007 8:15 AM

I have heard this show was worth watching from many sources, and I had been wanting to see it for a long time. Yesterday evening I picked up the three hour miniseries and watched the first hour and a half. I really liked it. My friend has the DVDs, I think I'll borrow them and work my way through the series. What I find funny is that the original BSG was considered a bit of a rip off of Star Wars, now the two are not even comparable. Star Wars is now infantile crap, and BSG is completely serious well done show (from what I have seen). Who would have thought that would happen. Both have gone a long ways since the late seventies.

Post: #279294
Topic: The Best Star Wars Books?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279294/action/topic#279294
Time: 26-Mar-2007 12:16 PM

I think rather than finding a well "tied in" series of books, you are more likely to just find a confusing mess. Personally I found the best way to handle the EU was to check out the abridged audio books from the library (or through inter-library loan). This way you get the gist of what is going on without having to read the whole book, if the book turns out to be pretty interesting or enjoyable, stop the tape, return it to the library and check out the book. If the book turns out to suck, suffer through all four tapes (if you are that determined), then return it and check out the next one.

There are many SW timelines available online that have been put together by fans. They will usually list all the books, comic books, and revelvant video games, as well as the movies of course. Usually the reverse side of the front cover of most Star Wars books contain a mini time line listing where that particular book fits into the time line and what books come before and after. At least the older books did, I wouldn't be surprised if the new ones don't due to the vast amount of SW books published these days. Your best bet is too search google.com for "Star Wars Expanded Universe timeline" or something to that effect (maybe if that doesn't work try searching "star wars book timeline").

Post: #279293
Topic: Return of the Jedi Remixer Boss Edition (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279293/action/topic#279293
Time: 26-Mar-2007 12:07 PM

Remixer, any updates?

Post: #279240
Topic: Story Time!!!!!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279240/action/topic#279240
Time: 26-Mar-2007 1:14 AM

I think it would be safest for you if his most recent picture ends up on a milk carton. Just safer that way.

Post: #279192
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279192/action/topic#279192
Time: 25-Mar-2007 5:37 PM

Originally posted by: Dug
I have come so close so many times to watching the Holiday Special (notice how any Star Wars with the word "special" in it is bad? Wink-wink), and after repeated warnings from others, I've stopped myself. Damn, but my curiosity is through the roof!

Do it! You know you want to! Just bear in mind, once you do you can NEVER go back.

Post: #279189
Topic: Story Time!!!!!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279189/action/topic#279189
Time: 25-Mar-2007 5:30 PM

From my experience I have always found mild mutilations to have an extreme psychological impact. The whole "carpet beater" thing from Casino Royale has haunted the nightmares of men all over the world for many years now, you might give that one a try.

Sean, this is just a story right? You don't really have some kid with a mohawk locked in your basement do you??? Just thought I would make sure.

Post: #279139
Topic: 300
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279139/action/topic#279139
Time: 25-Mar-2007 11:26 AM

I think there is pretty good evidence to say Spartans were by no means avocates of the gay lifestyle. History is actually a pretty funny subject. Let's say you and a group of friends go to a party or a concert, the very next day each and every one of you will have a variations in your stories. Two people get in a fight, each will have very different stories to tell just half an hour later. You ask them for details on that fight years later, if it was a significant fight and they still remember it, then they are likely to have stories that vary even more. I don't think anyone can disagree with this, yet we think we can figure out exactly what took place during a particular battle or during one event in history. We can get a pretty good approximation I suppose, but if we think we can figure out the whole truth, then we are fooling ourselves. Spartans lived over 2500 years ago, I think it is safe to say we will never know exactly what they were really like. Every country needs its heros and legends, Leonidas is one of Greece's great heros (they even have the words Malon Labe meaning "Come and get them" as their military slogan, referencing Leonidas telling the Persians to "come and get them" when they asked for them to hand over their spears). Let them have him, and let them depict him they way they have traditionally. Modern Greeks are extremely homophobic, and Frank Miller wrote the graphic novel with a very strong bias in favor of the Greeks.

EDIT: My Greek Characters for "Malon Labe" didn't work, so I have to transliterate it.

Post: #279059
Topic: 300
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279059/action/topic#279059
Time: 24-Mar-2007 4:03 PM

Originally posted by: Tiptup
For what purpose would they argue about homosexuality in Greek culture?

Heh, I really liked the "boy lovers" in Athens line from the movie. That was also in the graphic novel, correct?

Yeah that line is in the graphic novel. As for why they should argue, I don't know, it is IMDB after all. I think it started with somebody saying the film is inaccurate because the Spartans are historically an extremely gay culture and the Persians were not, while the film depicts the Spartans as anti-gay and the Persians as ultra-gay.

Post: #279050
Topic: 300
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279050/action/topic#279050
Time: 24-Mar-2007 2:32 PM

Just for fun I checked out the IMDB boards to see what was being said about this movie. Man, it is sad. Those have got to the crappiest most useless boards on the net. All arguments about weather or not Greeks were gay and complaints about Americans not knowing their history. I like how everybody things this film is American propaganda.

Post: #279042
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/279042/action/topic#279042
Time: 24-Mar-2007 1:51 PM

Some of the 'Power of the Force' line of Kenner action figures from the 80s came with special collectors coins. The one for Darth Vader had the words "Dark Lord of the Sith" written on it. So the idea of the Sith was out there and known to people long before the PT, and even before the "Tales of the Jedi" comics popularized the name "Sith".

Post: #278988
Topic: I clubbed a baby seal (well, sort of)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278988/action/topic#278988
Time: 24-Mar-2007 3:03 AM

You guys have got to stop making these kinds of posts. You wouldn't want Zion to club anymore baby seals.

Post: #278987
Topic: Tax refunds...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278987/action/topic#278987
Time: 24-Mar-2007 3:00 AM

Eh, I'm boring, mine went right back into my checking account.

Post: #278986
Topic: Story Time!!!!!!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278986/action/topic#278986
Time: 24-Mar-2007 2:56 AM

Peace lover eh? I am all for creative writing, and I have put some of my characters through hell, but this seems a bit sadistic. Are you sure this is healthy? I guess it is a good safe way to vent you annoyance with somebody.

Post: #278884
Topic: The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278884/action/topic#278884
Time: 23-Mar-2007 5:09 PM

Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Is there any part in particular that's special or a part that you think everybody should have read? I don't plan to read the whole Bible but if there a small part you could recommend I would like to read it.
Do you also know if and where in the Bible "hell" is described?

Where the Bible really shines is when you can look at is as a whole and see how well it snaps together, which is impressive when you consider how many different writers it has and over how many hundreds of years it was written. To recommend one particular part everybody should read, that is hard. I guess it depends on what you are looking for. If you want to read one small section that will explain to you everything you ever wanted to know, or that will inform you of general Christian doctrine, you are not going to come up with anything. You have the four Gospels containing four accounts of Jesus life, death and resurrection, but if you do not believe in God or don't have any interest in Christianity, then I don't think you will gain anything from reading them. The rest of the New Testament consists of Paul's letters and some other letters by various other people, these are more about the Christian life and address certian controversies in different Churches during and around the first century. So again, if you are not a Christian and have very little interest in Christianity, then you will find these pointless and boring. Most people who do not know much about the Bible dive right into Revelation because they think it is cool. I would not recommend this, as Revelation requires a pretty good understanding of both the Old and New Testament to make heads or tails of, and it is most often misinterpreted by novices and scholars alike.

In the Old Testament you have the books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The first eleven chapters of Genesis is a quick read, and it takes you from the Creation story, the story of the Ark, and the story of Babel, and ends before Abraham. Many scholars believe these first 11 chapters to be more of Jewish mythology rather than actual history. Not to say this section is just irrelevent fairy stories, they do have a very strong and valid meaning regardless of weather you choose to believe them to be history or myth. It is important to realize that these books are claimed to have been written my Moses who lived a VERY long time later. Exodus is about Moses and the Israelites exodus from Egypt and the years spend wandering in the desert. Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy spend a lot of time on the law and can get pretty tedious to read.

My personal favorites are the books of history, especially Joshua, Judges, Samuel, and Kings. The books of Poetry can also be quite enjoyable, Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiaties, Song of Solomon. My favorites from this section are hands down Job and Ecclesiaties. Proverbs is also a pretty cool read. The rest of the Old Testament is the Books of Prophecy.

If you are interested to learn more of Christian history, I would recommend Luke and Acts. Luke being one of the Gospels tells the story of Jesus, Acts which is written by the same author as Luke continues right where Luke lets off and tells the story of the early church, including the conversion of the Apostle Paul and his missionary journeys.

You asked where hell is described in the Bible, there are actually not that many descriptions of it. Hell as it is modernly precieved is mostly from Dante's Inferno, this is where the fire and brimstone stuff comes from. Several things in Revelation could be taken as descriptions of hell, depending on how you interpret the book. In Luke 16:19 you have the parable of the Rich man and Lazarus, which also has a sort of describtion of the afterlife. My personal conclusion on the subject is that the Bible was not meant to describe the afterlife, but does have warnings that there will be punishment in store for the and rewards for the righteous.

Post: #278834
Topic: The Go-Mer-Tonic™ Thread - Today's Topic: Whose your favorite author and why?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278834/action/topic#278834
Time: 23-Mar-2007 12:56 PM

Originally posted by: Arnie.d

Originally posted by: WESHALLPRESERVE
Very good words Coov----very-
Well, why should evolution be taught as fact in the school? If it is a THEORY, which it is, don't I, (as a 14 year old "ignorant" student of the public education) have the right to hear other theory? Its disgusting the way this is taught. At least my 8th grade teacher had the balls to say "Well, I have to teach this to you, but for the record, I do not believe in it. That is all that is going to be said"--Like, I mean, can I as a kid have some sort of disclaimer warning me that this is not fact? Just a theory?

Like every time you go to church the reverend has to say: "all that I'm going to say is not fact, it's just a theory"? Children who go to church go there because their parents want to. Not because they want to. They are brainwashed from a very early age. I think you should not confront children with evolution or religion until they are 12-14 and than show them both theories so they can make up their own mind.

I think the idea is that not everyone is forced to go to Church, while everyone does have to go to school. But I disagree with the idea that the ancient Jewish account of creation should be taught in school. That is doing just the opposite of what they are doing in public schools now. Something more of a middle ground is needed.

As far as kids being brainwashed in Church, that is an interesting idea. What do you define as being brainwashed? If teaching evolution in school is also brainwashing, then I suppose brainwashing is a very common practice in our world. I myself prefer the term teaching.

I think we need to be teaching our children to be free thinking. If our children believe in God merely because they are told to by their parents, then they hardly believe in God at all do they? It is more of a tradition than a belief. If they go through their whole life beliving in God just because of what they were taught as a child, then it is a very empty and easily broken belief. The same goes for unprovable scientific theories. If it is to be believed simply because it is what we have been taught, then it is an empty belief.

The idea of a God is an interesting one that has so many different meaning for different people. Some people find great comfort in the idea of an all powerful being protecting and watching out for them. They find comfort in the idea that when they die they are in his hands. Other can't stand the idea of not being in control of their lives. They can't bear the fact that there is something so much greater than themselves.

For my part, as much as I have wanted to be in control of things in my life. And as many times as I have wished to think that everything in life can be seen and tested, I can't. Not because I was "brainwashed" as a child, but because I have seen too many things that cannot be explained by science. On top of that I have studied the Bible through and through and I have studied other acient documents and have never found anything remotely as impressive as the Bible. The Bible truely is one of a kind.

Post: #278823
Topic: A Heart-Warming Message from the RIAA
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278823/action/topic#278823
Time: 23-Mar-2007 11:36 AM

Those stupid Disney DVDs. I had always thought VHS was retarded how they loaded up the beginning of movies with advertisments when I have already paid them money for their movie. And even more retarded that years later they were outdated ads advertising films "coming soon to a theater near you" that have not been in the theaters for several years. When DVD first came out I remember this was one of the big selling points they used, "No commercials". Now they not only have commercials, but they sometimes even force you to watch them. A step in the wrong direction if you ask me.

I often wonder how much money the MPAA really looses over piracy. The last DVD I bought was Revenge of the Sith (actually it was bought for me, but it is the latest DVD I own) and that is because of all this new HD technology coming out, and the infinate releases of every single film. Any DVD I buy I know I am going to sooner or later find a better more updated version on store shelves, that more than anything makes me think twice before purchasing any thing.

Post: #278821
Topic: R2 goes postal!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278821/action/topic#278821
Time: 23-Mar-2007 11:31 AM

ROAD TRIP!! I'm gonna see em all! Whose coming with me? Three more seats left in my car.

Post: #278820
Topic: What were your original expectations for the PT?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278820/action/topic#278820
Time: 23-Mar-2007 11:27 AM

No kidding! It is so bad... I really cannot think of anything to compare it to. I think it actually has its own category of bad. And it makes no sense either. There are so many "what the hell?" moments in that show and it just goes on like nothing happened. Like Chewies dad watching the sort of porn video, or the instructional video for the thing Lumpy got in the mail. Ever since I first heard about this thing I wanted to see it so badly. I actually could not stand having a Star Wars "movie" that I had not seen. My dad had seen it when it first aired and he always told me it was so worthless and terrible it was not worth seeing at all. He even told me the basic plot of it, and it just made me want to see it more. I always figured that since my dad was not much of a Star Wars fan that is why he didn't like it, I figured any true SW fan would appreciate anything SW. Years and years later I got my hands on a bootleg, and I just stared at my TV with my mouth gaping open the whole time. It was bad. No words to describe it. No words could do it justice. There is no exageration when saying that the HS is absolutly, terrible bad. The PT is a very describable type of bad, the PT has nothing, nothing on the HS.

Post: #278666
Topic: The Secret History of Star Wars
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278666/action/topic#278666
Time: 22-Mar-2007 11:26 AM

Nice work Zombie, I will look forward to reading this when I get the time. Looks like you did a great job on it. Thanks for sharing.

Post: #278665
Topic: R2 goes postal!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278665/action/topic#278665
Time: 22-Mar-2007 11:24 AM

That is really weird. What is the point in even decorating them in the first place if you are only going to leave them for a few days. I wonder if it is because people are peeling off the covering? I live in nowheresville, so my chances of seeing one out of the 400 is extremely slim.

Post: #278628
Topic: Idea: a Star Trek VI edit - Klingon blood from pink to red?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/278628/action/topic#278628
Time: 22-Mar-2007 3:28 AM

Nice to hear you might be having a go at this Ringo. I just really think the red blood would make the movie fit much more tightly with ST continuity. If you find a way to make the blood red let us know how you did it and post some screens. I like your idea about using some of the Voyager "Flashback" footage. I think that could be interesting if you can get the quality to match up. Good luck.