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#301585
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Why, oh, why do they cancel shows this good???
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Originally posted by: Johnny Ringo
It really is a shame because you get a sense watching that last episode that things are really starting to go somewhere new, Especially with River. But then if it had gone on we probably wouldn't have 'Serenity' Which I also love.


If you hadn't gotten Serenity on account of the show going on to a second season and beyond, then you can bet what you would have gotton would have been a lot better and there would have been a lot more of it than just a couple of hours.

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#301582
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so I finally acquired the '95 boxset
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301582/action/topic#301582
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"Sorry guys"???? It was just me making the "hurrican" into a "drizzle". Most people see it as the end of the world. I used to get my panties in a knot about it, but I decided there was nothing I can do about it.

"you call the OOT being designated as "special features" as an official release?"

Well, no matter how you put it, it WAS a release of the OOT, no matter how substandard, and no matter how you put it, it WAS official. So yes, there was an official release. No matter how much you or I wish that pathetic release away, the fact remains that it still happened. So yes, just for the sake of calling things as they are, I do designate the "special feature" as an official release. As I mentioned in my last post, in some ways that "special feature" is a good thing. If you remember, George once said that the OOT no longer existed, I consider it no small step that several years after he made that comment, the thing he said no longer existed wound up as a special feature, an admitance that it no longer no longer exists. Or to translate the double negative, it once again exists. I don't see it as too much of a stretch for it to once again be included as a "special feature" one day in HD. Either way, even if we never get another release again, I wouldn't consider it as one of life's "category 5" hurricanes". I have had hurricanes in life, and in the grand scheme of things, being stuck with old VHS tapes and bootleg LD transfers of the OUT isn't one of them.


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#301543
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so I finally acquired the '95 boxset
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301543/action/topic#301543
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
But what you're all forgetting is that the will of Geroge Lucas eclipses every effort we throw at him. The OOT is doomed to die because of his own cyclic logic, and he has an iron grip over all hollywood companies- he even forced AFI to show the SE of SW! It doesnt matter if its HD or something ridiculousy good looking such as maybe, 256:81 presentation, or 2480p quality in the next 20 years. It doesnt matter if its 1998 or 2028 or even 2108! IT is Lucas' absolute iron will to keep the OOT in rotting VHS and film reels, and sealed forever in DVD quality that would be substandard even to Soviet Bloc standards! The will destroy a film out of existence is the single thing that helps Lucas sleep at night.



Some how I have a feeling Lucas is not quite that shallow. I mean, he has a family, I doubt the suppressing of the OT is his primary motivation in life. If anything, I would label it more as wounded ego. He made his special editions of the films to be the updated and definitive versions and very likely never thought anyone would ever want to go back to the outdated ones. He said he would never release them, yet he did so just last year. Yeah, the quality is awful, I never bought the things myself, I wouldn't touch them. But the fact is, it is an official release of the OOT, something that he said would never happen. He sees that there is demand for them, and that it has now become pretty standard for a high quality release of all versions of films that have multiple versions. Just as George, the huge supporter of new and inovative technology such as digital filming and CG, was slow to release his films to DVD even when it was quickly replacing VHS, he will eventually come around with an HD Star Wars. Like usual as of late, he is just a little behind the times.

If it is in fact a matter of a wounded ego that people want the old versions rather than his improved versions, than it is just a matter of a bit of time covering things up so he can come along and say he knew the OOT would need to be preserved and release in HD format from the very beginning. Once he can pass it off as his idea, it will be a good idea and he can play the winner and we will all be happy. Both sides win. This seems to be the way ol' George works. I would even hazard to say that the longer that there is a group of angry fans constantly reminding him that he stiffed them on the OT and that they dislike his ever changing SE versions of the films, the longer it will be before he will decide that he had always intended to release them on HD once the technology became availible and affordable.

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#301540
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Why, oh, why do they cancel shows this good???
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301540/action/topic#301540
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I discovered that show about a year ago. I had seen the opening video once before and the spaceship flying over the heard of cattle just struck me as kind of lame. The whole Space Western taken so literally had me very skeptical of the whole thing. Even though it had a very loyal fanbase who swore by it, I figured it was probably cancelled for a reason. And what the heck kind of name for a sci-fi show is "Firefly"? So these were my brief considerations of Firefly before I ever saw the show. Finally after sometime later my wife was away and I was kind of board, so my friend loaned me his DVDs and said they were definitely worth watching and if I were to watch even half of the first episode I would be hooked. I watched them all the way through in just a few days. It is truely ashame it didn't get the chance to go on. As great as the show was, I believe it, like many other shows, would have got even better as time went on. The 14 episodes are for the most part really good, there were a couple towards the end that I felt were duds. After my wife returned I tried to get her to watch it, and told her about it but she wasn't in the least interested. Finally this last summer she agreed to watch the pilot of Firefly, and then I couldn't keep her away from the TV, anytime we had free time she would say, "Hey, let's watch the next episode of Firefly!" And this is a girl who isn't big on sci-fi. This show could have been a huge prime-time flagship for Fox, had they treated it fairly and given it the appropriate advertising and given it a chance beyond 14 eps.

Glad you have joined our ranks ferris. Though sometimes I wish I never had. Everytime I watch that show I get this huge feeling of disappointment and everytime I turn on the TV and see what stupid shows come on I get this deep feeling of injustice. I can imagine how excited early fans of the show were when they first heard that they would finally be getting to see a conclusion to the show and on the big screen now less.
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#301537
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Beowulf
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301537/action/topic#301537
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab


When you get right down to it, Beowulf is better suited to the wartime campfire exaggeration


I didn't see the "wartime" the first time I read this, I just saw campfire exaggeration. So strike the "children's" from my comment.

Anyway, I wasn't serious about any of that, I was just playing around.
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#301535
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301535/action/topic#301535
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
What did I say so wrong?

Luigi's Mansion was obviously inspired by Ghost Busters!


I was just messing around. Having been raised with Ghostbusters myself, and with Luigi's Mansion being an obvious knock off of Ghostbusters, it was just funny to hear some one describe Ghostbusters as being like Luigi's Mansion. Kind of like someone seeing Star Wars for the first time and saying, "Oh, I see, it is kind of like Battlestar Galactica."
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#301521
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Beowulf
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301521/action/topic#301521
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Jeez Chaltab!

First you liken Ghostbusters to Luigi's Mansion!! And as if that wasn't enough, then you liken a great piece of historical literature, and one of the most frightening tales I have ever read to childrens campfire stories!!

Not only that, but not too long ago you admited to not liking the original Metroid for the NES, possibly the finest video game that was every made with the hands of mortals. Have you no taste!! I really liked you before man, but now I have to say you have dove to my absolute least favorite poster. Even lower than Rob.



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#301515
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Silly Pics
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301515/action/topic#301515
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally posted by: daveytod
who the hell said I had any opinions on abortion one way or the other? I think Ive bben misquoted

Than why did you say you wanted Sean to die? I thought it was because of his "thank you for not aborting me!" pic and the discussion that followed. What is your opinion on abortion?


I am too lazy to go back and see if that was what daveytod told Sean to die about or not. I think tod is generally fairly hostile towards Sean, as are a many other members around here.

Anyway, whether you thing aborting is wrong or not, surely we can all agree that saying that someone should have been aborted, or that it was a mistake that someone was not aborted because they have some sort of deformity or any other reason is pretty rotten. All theistic or atheistic beliefs aside, it puzzles me how abortion can be accepted. No matter how you spin it, it is a human life. Even more staggering is when the same "Oh my gosh!! You can't club baby seals!!!" people also go about saying it is a womans right to kill a baby human, as long as it is living inside her. Does that mean if we remove the unborn baby seal from its mother first, then clubbing becomes fair game? No matter how you spin it, if you really stop and think about it, it is what it is and there is no disguising that.

But even worse than this is someone else judging if someone should have been allowed to be born or not. Even the implication that someone should have been aborted for whatever reason is several steps to far. If you want to kill your own children, do as you will. But I swear if anyone were to ever say my child should not have been born, I will make them wish with all their heart that their own mother had aborted them.

And as far as the argument about so many women dying from illegal coat hanger abortions, that is tragic, don't get me wrong. But that is almost like saying that it is important to legalize murder, because so many murderers end up getting shot while running from the police, and if murder was legalized these tragic deaths could be avoided. If you were to count one life as being as important as the next, then which life is more important? The life of the mother who dies from a botched back alley abortion, or the life of the baby that was the victim of the back alley abortion? Maybe a better solution to the whole thing would be to make sure the mother knows how dangerous illegal abortions are, and that if she goes through with giving birth to the baby she will never have to so much as look at it, before it is taken away and handed into the arms of someone who really wants it. She should also be informed that having sex does in fact make babies, that no single form of birth control is 100%, and that without birth control the risk of pregnancy is rather high. Oh, and one more thing that she might ought to be warned about, men don't get pregnant, and some don't give a damn if you do, which is a good reason for carefully selecting who you sleep with.
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#301514
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Beowulf
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301514/action/topic#301514
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I don't see why people are so up in arms about this. The source material isn't that great or thought provoking to begin with. Beowulf himself is an incredible Gary Stu and constantly veers off into random moralizing while not living by the morals himself.


I am not too familar with the term Gary Stu, but from the provided link it seems like it indicates a cliched character. Which is an odd term to use, since Beowulf predates most of the characters that would make him a cliche. And as far as the story not being that great or thought provoking, I don't think you can really hold such an old work up to modern standards. It would be like critizing Homer's works because they didn't live up to todays standards, or saying that Odysseus is a cliched character. For such a not so great story that is not thought provoking it sure has influenced modern story a good deal. I am in no way "up in arms" about the whole thing, but there is no possible way of denying the historical importance of Beowulf and the impact it has had on stories. I just think it is ashame that such an important work gets such an adaption. I would have liked to have seen something more along the lines of Braveheart and Lord of the Rings, rather than 300. Don't get me wrong, I liked 300 and I thought it was a fantastic adaption of the graphic novel, and its style worked for what it was. But Beowulf? I just felt it deserved better than CG and Angelina as Gendel's mum.
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#301470
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Beowulf
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301470/action/topic#301470
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I think it is kind of going to the 300 look. It is ashame because a serious adaption (along the lines of Lord of the Rings or Braveheart) of Beowulf could be something very worthwhile. But this film isn't aiming at the literary crowd or anyone who might have ever even considered reading the epic, but rather they are aiming at the same crowd as 300, anyone who will be blown away by the special effect, CG blood, and Angelina's bra size.
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#301386
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Why Anakin should have been 20 years old in TPM.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301386/action/topic#301386
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As you can see, Ben had already given his last line by that point, which was the similar, "Was I any different when you taught me?" which is probably what you're thinking of.


Yeah, you're right, that is what I was thinking of. It has been a long time seen the movie. Disregard my post.

Though it doesn't make a lot of since that Obi-Wan and Yoda would just sit by and watch as the two last hopes for the future of the galaxy and the Jedi order aged beyond training ability. In fact, since training begins at such a young age in the PT (how old are those youngling? Five or six? It would have made more since for Obi and Yoda to each take a twin, go their seperate ways and train them, since it wouldn't be a very long wait before they could train them. Then if either were to be discovered, only one potential future Jedi and one Jedi master would be lost. Or if neither were discovered, as the case turned out to be, then two fully and properly trained Jedi Knights could have emerge from hiding and brought down the Sith, rather than one Jedi with very little training who came pretty close to botching it, and the other not even knowing they had the ability to be a Jedi, and no one to train her even if she did.
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#301375
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Help needed - using one of the Star wars Characters in my own story?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301375/action/topic#301375
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Hmm, I would think that in order to use an SW character, you would have to make it a full out Star Wars novel, which would require getting your novel/story viewed and licensed by LFL. I think all SW novels are now published by LucasBooks, so I would suggest writing a letter to them. But there may very well be someone else around here who might be able to give you a better answer.
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#301374
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Why Anakin should have been 20 years old in TPM.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301374/action/topic#301374
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Another little continuity issue is from the scene where Obi-Wan's spirit and Yoda are discussing Luke's age, and Yoda says he is too old to begin his training, to which Obi-Wan answers "Was I any younger when you taught me?" Which leads us to believe that Obi-Wan did not begin his training till he was around Luke's age. Nothing wrong with this in itself (other than the whole prequel idea of training starting with "younglings"), but if I am not mistaken (and I very well may be) I believe Yoda gives one of the excuses for not wanting Anakin to be trained is because he is too old. At the age of nine. If this is right than Obi-Wan being near Luke's age was WAY too old.
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#301345
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BSG
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301345/action/topic#301345
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Yeah, I was able to see the screener also. It wasn't bad. I would actually say it was an above average episode, but it takes place during season two, so there is really very little added to the overall story. Which is why it might be deemed as a waste of time. I for one was appreciative of it, especially with possibility of no new Galactica until 2009. And I really love those old Cylons, I with all the Centurians in the new series look a bit more like them, the new ones just aren't that great looking to me. It was kind of interesting seeing the flashbacks of what happened to the Pegasus and its crew, since we have heard about these events, but never actually saw them take place. It was also interesting to see more of Apollo as Captian of the Pegasus, since we really didn't get to see much of that, and when we did he was in that retarded looking fat suit.
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#301313
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Ian McDiarmid's performance in the PT (also the OT) is memorable and absolutely enthralling
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301313/action/topic#301313
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Even if you compare shots of ROTS to shots from ROTJ, they actually don't look that much alike. They do, but they don't. In ROTJ it is very easy to believe that he is just a very old man, nearly a walking corpse. In ROTS it just looks like rubber and makeup, and he has more of a monster or alien look to him than the ancient withered look of ROTJ. He was already a fairly old man, 25 years turning him inot the walking corpse from ROTJ would have been reasonable. The way it goes down in ROTS just feels forced.

So yeah, I would have to say it was just another balls up by George.
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#301284
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Ian McDiarmid's performance in the PT (also the OT) is memorable and absolutely enthralling
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301284/action/topic#301284
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Its the director's job to guide the actors--to say "Ian, tone down the expressions, just play it straight." Its as much a directors job to weed out what is wrong as it is to include what is right--now, true there are some things you simply cannot control, but alas this is not one of them. Lucas allowed McDiarmid to fuck it up, because he is the director and could have directed the performance differently.


Even with the stories of the PT as screwed up as they were, imagine how different it might have been had someone other than George been directing. And even with George directing, how in the world did he let things deteriorate so much? Did he really think people would take these kinds of things seriously?
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#301212
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The Beginning: Making 'Episode I': A comedy masterpiece
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301212/action/topic#301212
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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
Yeah, I'm going to end this exchange in this post. Bear in mind that I was not the one who began the putdown fest, so don't go playing the poor tortured victim here. I don't get preemptively snarky with anyone,...


Uh, dude, if you didn't start this putdown fest, then who did? Your memory isn't that great either, fortunately on message boards all things are recorded, check out your preemptive snarkiness posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 1:01 AM.


... and in fact my first post on this topic had nothing to do with you. To be fair, maybe that's what you thought because my first post came right after a post of yours.


To be fair, maybe I thought that not only because your first post in this exchange came right after my own, but consisted entirely of a quote by quote from my post, which included some slightly "snarky" comments about some of the things I had said, to which I responded "snarkily" only to your "snarky" bits and left the rest respectful. I may have been a bit harsh on your "Yoda/Chinese speak", but you yourself were using it as a way of putdown.

Anyway, my mistake was responding to an exessive quote-and-address-every-sentence response, which usually evolves into pointless time consuming arguments, where each user is on the look out for the slightest typo or gramatical mistake so they can prove how ignorant the other person is. Pretty rediculous. I should not have sunken to that level. Only reason I kept going was because I felt a bit attacked, but I should have let it slide.

And all I have learned from this exchange is that you would make a damn good politician.
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#301207
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BSG
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301207/action/topic#301207
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Well, I finally finished watching season three a few days ago. Season one and two were almost always alot of fun to watch, but season three drug on pretty badly. The beginning was interesting, and then it was pretty sparse from then on up until the last few episode. Now I am ready to watch the Razor. It somehow has the old chrome antique Cylons in it, I love those guys, I am looking forward to seeing it just for that. Then I guess we still all have a long wait ahead of us before season four.