C3PX

The PS2 was my first CD based system, the first one I had was a hand me down slim model, and it died. I immediately went out and bought a brand new one. But the fact that the guy who gave it to me only had it two years before giving it to me (and I know the guy really well, he takes great care of his stuff) makes me kind of weary about these modern systems (my old NES is still alive and kicking, this is what I am used to when it comes to game consoles. Over twenty years of gaming, and my PS2 was my first ever experience with the death of a console). I do not like the idea of having to replace the things every three years or so. I'd really like to get a 360 sometime within the next year, but I have heard a lot of about the red ring of death.

So, for Xbox and Xbox 360 owners out there, what kind of life spans have you gotten out of these systems?

Also, if I were to start looking at 360s, what size harddrive should I get it with? Is the harddrive that important?

I know this is a long ways off, and probably 100% inaccurate, but just to generate some discussion:

Batman 3 villian rumors.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/895/895689p1.html

Definately need someone British to play the role of the Penguin, if they decide to use him as the villian, I hope they don't screw him up as bad as they did with Batman Returns.

Depp as the Joker... I guess it could work... he is a bit too mainstream for my taste though... it would suck to basically get Capt. Jack Sparrow in Joker clothing.

"Mutt Williams and the Search for Elvis or something"

Sounds like a great spin off film.

Yeah, the two clashing philosophies of T-2 and T-3 where painful. T-3 basically made the majority of T-2 pointless.

As for T-2 being unnecessary, I agree with CO, no sequel ever is really necessary, unless the first one was made with the intention of of a sequel and a cliff hanger ending (i.e. Lord of the Rings trilogy, Back to the Future 2 & 3, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi). But personally, I think T-2 makes T-1 a stonger movie. It adds more depth to it too me. I liked T1, but after T2 I promoted them both to "favorite movie" status, some thing I do not think I would have ever done with T1 alone. It was such a great follow up to te first movie. After something like the events of T1 happen in your life, how do you go back to a normal life? What do you do with yourself? How do you raise your kid? I think T2 does a great job at showing how Sarah went about these things, and how she nearly failed at them. What if your mom was this crazy nut job who through your whole like taught you about this inevitable coming war against the machines, and trained you how to be a soldier from the time you took your first steps?

These plot points are to good not to follow up on and make a story about. I also thought the tone of "the future being unwritten" was a great way to end the story.

Sluggo said:

But the Amish use fire, right?  It wouldn't be totally useless.

 That was an awesome response!

Also, bigdaddy makes a very excellent point about investments.

As for justifying the price, nothing about this thing seem reasonable. This sucker is huge at 210 pounds and 23 1/2 inches long. The whole thing seems like a joke, all the numbers seem rediculously large. That is just half an inch under two feet long, and it weights just 30 pounds less than I do! I don't even know how they could make the stupid thing that heavy. Cost another small fortune just to ship it. I would really like to see one of these things up close.

Janskeet knows this, he was using a literary device to get his point across.

Yeah, I am looking forward to seeing it too.

@ Johnny Ringo, thanks for the link. While others have probably seen those pictures before, I had not. It is kind of cool getting a better look at the costumes. Easier to catch details on them in those pictures than it was in the trailer.

I am not too worried about them messing it up, if they do we still have the original graphic novel. 300 was actually almost frame for frame exactly like the graphic novel, other than the inclusion of extra scenes (a few that made absolutely NO sense at all, like the orc and the sword arm retarded giant thing, others such as the scenes back at Sparta made sense though, otherwise the whole movie is just one big fight scene).

The fact that most of what is shown in the Watchmen trailer is immediately recognizable as a scene from the graphic novel, give me the feeling they will stay pretty true to the source. Since unlike the 300 graphic novel, the Watchmen graphic novel has a ton of substance to it, there is no way they will need to add stuff, only remove it. SO our biggest concern ought to be what is left out. I have even heard that they are making an animated short of Tales of the Black Freighter that will be included on the DVD.

Sluggo said:

Might be a perfect gift for the Amish.  They can practically see the whole movie without electricity. 

 LOL, unfortunately, Amish also don't like photographs. So the even though it doesn't use electricity, if you give it to an Amish pal, it isn't gonna do him any good.

ChainsawAsh said:

Apparently, T1 and T2 are 100% canon with "Salvation," but T3's events, while they happened, won't be followed as strictly (i.e. some elements may be retconned or just not mentioned).

 Nice. I like how film makers have reached this point of no shame, where they can admit a movie was pure crap and simply wait a few years and remake it again, like the other Hulk movie and T-3. I suppose that is why they are calling this Terminator Salvation instead of Terminator 4, so we can put it on our DVD/Blu-ray shelves displayed right next to the first two without skipping a number.

ChainsawAsh said:

And I had a perfect idea for who could play that rendition of the Riddler a while ago ... then completely forgot who I'd thought of.

Steve Carell? Whoa, that'd be weird.

bigbaddaddyvader said:

Regardless of the merits of releasing this Clone Wars movie to the cinema,which as has been said is nothing new-LFL have been doing this kind of thing since we were kids too...

Keep in mind, this is something new for us in the US, the Ewok films were made for TV movies here in the states. A lot of shows made for TV here in America make it to theaters on your side of the pond. This is the first SW related movie to be released theatrically outside of the actual movies for us.

But I agree, alot of us need to just settle down and get over this. It is for kids, kids will enjoy it.

A lot of us just feel like the SW name is really being drug through the mud and over sold, which is damaging the integrity of the series. But this has really been the case for a long time. Back in the early 80s it was way over marketed, probably more than any film had been marketed before. And it managed to survive and be remembered with fondness.

-1, I am not quite sure what you are trying to prove, or why it matters to you so much. Even if more people really did watch the PT than the OT, so what? Is it suppose to change the way we feel about the PT? Prove it is the better series? I don't see how.

Yeah, from what I have read it does consider T-3 canon. Wouldn't make sense if it didn't. John's wife (girl from third movie) is portrayed by Bryce Howard in this new film.

You forgot the apostrophe (looks like this ' ) between the X and the s. Should be "C3PX's XXX Links" as you have it is as if you are using the plural form of C3PX, which would mean there are more than one of me (and there is not).

Kid, you've got way too much time on your hands. Anyway, glad to see you are no longer using the TDK thread for your games. I honestly appreciate it. Good night.

Anyone who has read the Dark Knight thread knows why this thread is necessary. Any pointless arguments that are taking place in that thread should be moved here so as to stop mucking up the Dark Knight thread and making serious discussion of that film overly difficult.

Hey, I thought at one point you had said something about not making personal attacks and getting offended by being called a nitpicker (pretty tame name calling), and yet after my very first post addressed to you on this subject, in which I expressed my annoyance in the degradation of this thread and asked you stop (admittedly, perhaps not as politely as I should have), you call me a douch and a twat. Thanks for proving your maturity. Now if you don't mind could you just shut up and stop hijacking this thread with your crap.

EDIT: Okay, the GhostAlpha's Ridiculous Arguments thread has been started. Feel free to move any dumb arguments there. Also, GA you are of course more than welcome to play games and make illogical arguments in order to prove how foolish people are based on how long they continue to argue with you. Sounds like a fun game, but not in the TDK thread.

From now on it would be really cool if this thread could be used for discussing Batman.

negative1 said:

the only good thing about t2 was the special effects................you can tell a movies had

problems, when the re-release it about 10 different times, with different versions (*AHEM*)

Interesting line of reasoning. Seems like it is usually the better movies that suffer from constant rereleases. Like E.T., Blade Runner, Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, etc.

While Terminator has been rereleased a million times, I am pretty sure there are only actually three different versions of the film, the theatrical, the special edition, and a third version which is just the special edition with the alternative ending tagged on that was made as an easter egg for one of the releases.

@Ringo, yeah I am pretty sure that this is still intended to be the first of a new series of films. But I am sure a lot of that will have to do with how well this does. I am not to worried about them messing anything up by making too many movies at this point (T-3 already did that), this is not like the SW prequels where take place ahead of time and change everything about the old movies. In this case they are all sequels, (especially with the, "this is not the future my mother warned me about" thing) and you can just cut them off when you stop liking them.

By the end of Batman Begins, we all knew the next villian would be the Joker. This one didn't leave us with a clue.

I hope it is one of the lesser known villians, though a proper Penguin or Riddler would be kind of cool. I hope they leave Catwoman out of this series completely. Especialy with the crappy Hallie Barry movie still out there on the loose. I guess with Rachel gone they will need another love interest for Batman/Bruce Wayne, but I really hope this doesn't give them the idea to use Catwoman to fill that void. I really don't want to see her pop up in the next film.

ferris209 said:

Damn C3PX, that was probably the oddest post I've ever seen from you.

LOL, and we all know I have typed up some pretty odd stuff in my day... Hopefully my point didn't get lost in all the nonsense.

As for what you said about Colmes, yeah, I like the guy. He seems smart, and honorably brave consider the his role on Fox News' Hannity and Colmes. I just don't trust him as a liberal, being in the pay of the Fox News and all. And how much would it suck to have your job simply be to lose arguments to Hannity all day. For that I can't take him too seriously.

Rob said:

You just need a stern talking to... Finally take a good look at America's real history instead of the feeling you get when you look at the flag... I can just here you thinking "But it's the best country in the world!"

Stern talking to has never worked. Especially not this time (not sure how to tell you this ol' buddy, but you suck as a stern talker).

The America's real history doesn't really bother me either.
And about the feeling I get when I look at the flag, I'd consider myself a bit of a patriot, but the feeling I get when I look at the flag isn't so much pride as it is something to hold onto (its complicated, don't feel like explaining at the moment).
I haven't said the pledge of alligance to our star spangled banner since I was in the 5th grade, since then anytime I have been in a pledging situation I have left my hands at my side and remained silent while those around me put there hands on their hearts and spoke those words (again, its a bit complicated). Yet, I would die in a second for my country and the freedom of its people.
As for "best country in the world!", yes for me it is the best country in the world. But I do not consider it to be a universal truth, and it is something that took me a very long time to figure out. I have lived in other countries, and in each one for a time I decided they were much better than America for many silly little reasons, I grabbed onto their customs and culture and began to consider them home. Eventually I realized I would always be a fish out of water in these other places. When I first returned to the US, I didn't like it at all and could't wait to pack up and leave again. After time I realized that no matter how long I lived overseas, I would always just be an American pretending to be something different. Now everytime I go abroad, sooner or later I really begin missing my country. So, for me, America is the best country in the world, but for most people it is just another place on a map.

On a final note, this line cracked me up. "You need to be edjucated like nobody's business."

Anyone who has ventured into the Politics thread knows that I am one of the idiot right wing types. Much like Eric Cartmen, I absolutely hate hippies. But, with that said, I must confess there is a little hippy that lives inside me... okay, okay, not so much your traditional 60s hippy, but one of those college professor "intellectual", high horse, science-is-the-answer-to-all-things, only-retards-vote-republican-or-believe-in-God, sort of hippies. The type that listens to John Lennon's song "Imagine" and is constantly blow away by what an amazing thinker ol' John was. I'd say this inner hippy of mine controls somewhere around 5 - 10% of my brian, leaving the other 90 - 95% in the control of the gun loving, war-mongering, Bush sucking, Republican voting, black hating, confederate flag bearing, poor hating, abortionist condemning, destined to be rich SOB, animal abusing, meat eating, talk radio listening, gas wasting, intollerant, biggoted religious fanatic, right-winger. (Okay, just for the record, I was kidding about everyone of those except for the gun loving, gas wasting, and occasional talk radio listening).  

So yeah, this inner hippy controls 5 - 10% of my brian. A part of me that wants to believe God does not exist, science has the answer to everything, that believes violence and war are never necessary under any circumstances, that we should not have to be held responsible for our mistakes, that the government should be responsible for handling any part of our lives we do not feel fit to handle ourselves, that medicen should be socialized, that socialism in general is kick ass. This is the part of me who has spent so many years living in and traveling around Europe, who wants to be a snappy dresser and forever throw tennis shoes and blue jeans out of the closet. This part of me is also overly concerned for the enviroment and sheds tears nightly for the sake of the polar bears misfortune on account of destructiveness of mankind. (Okay, I realize I am being pretty hyperbolic here, forgive me for that).

That 5 - 10% extremist liberal living inside of me desperately wants something truely intelligent to grab onto, wants to really come up with some good arguments to confound the other 90-90% of my brian as well as my rightist extremist friends and aquantances, but it just can't find them. Just can't. The best it finds is Bush bashing, America hating, and CNN. And those things just don't cut it.

So, where can I find some really solid stuff to turn me into a liberal? Seriously, please turn me into a liberal (you know you want to), help my little hippy to become a big full fledged hippy (just not of the 60s variety please). I have wanted for years to be an athiest, but have seen too much science cannot explain. So, please turn me into an athiest, seems like a lot simpler life to me.

Whoa, anybody else want of puff of this shit I have been smoking? (just kidding).

GhostAlpha26 said:

If you couldnt tell I have not cared nor taken this "argument," seriously at all with you. Hahaha its hilarious to watch you continue on. Watching you give a legitimate attempt at making "logical" arguments against statements that I make that are purposely outlandish, its very entertaining. The fact that your making arguments against statements that are not intended at all to have any substance shows how easy it is to tweak you. What a tool hahahaha

And you werent ignored your way to fun and easy to mess with :p

Dude, shut up. You are really freaking annoying, and have managed to make an idiot of yourself as well as destroy the TDK discussion thread. If you think playing the "I was intentionally making retarded arguments and an idiot of myself in order to see how far others would take it..." card is going to dig you out, and make everyone think you are the cool one and the others are the loosers, then you are wrong. I would have recommended quiting while you were ahead (and that was a long time ago), but perhaps you still feel the need to have the last word. If this is the case I would recommend starting your own "ridiculous arguments" thread or something to that effect, instead of making everyone who is interested in real conversation about TDK dig through your crap.

skyjedi2005 said:

Saw the new Clone Wars tv preview still looks like a video game cutscene from a ps2 game.

 A PS2 game with cartoonish graphics.

negative1 said:

every single movie that followed the first one, has gotten progressively worse (yes, t2 was much nowhere near as good as the first one)..

 I thought the second one was awesome. The third one was a pile of crap (words cannot truely express how very much I truely hate that movie). And I actually enjoyed the TV show, don't get me wrong, it was FAR from perfect, I would never spend any money on the DVDs or anything. But as long as I can DVR it and skip commercials, I enjoy watching it. I consider it Terminator EU.

How is this conversation still going on?