C3PX

Darth Chaltab said:

Okay, mine starts with a baby, only he's in a rocketship, cause he's from another planet. And a couple of podunk farmers find him and raise him as a Methodist and he becomes this protector of Earth because it turns out he has alien super powers.

Whoa! You just totally blew my mind with that one! That is the craziest idea for I story I have ever heard! Personally, I'd absolutely love to see a film like this one, but I just don't think there would be a market for it. I mean, rocketships, aliens, Methodists, superpowers, and protectors of Earth? Perhaps even truth, justice, and if I could be so bold to assume your story takes place in our fine country, the American way, I just don't see people buying it. Too out there. Too far fetched. We'd see Sean's story about the guy dating the mentally retarded girl before we'd ever see this thing on the big screen.

And canohumdingers, no offense man, but your story sounds awful! A Western in space? Come on! Those are two seperate genres, and they just don't mesh like that. They both stand well enough on their own, westerns are fun action stories, and the silly space stuff keeps plenty of kids entertained well enough, but when you mix them together like that, you're just asking for something awful.

There's these monkeys, they get lost, and find a planet with a f**load of humans! It could be a sequel to Johnny Ringo's movie.

Okay, here is my original idea, there is this little girl and she has a little dog and then there is this tornado and the little girl and the little dog are in this little house and the tornado comes along and... freakin hits the house! And the house is all spinning around and stuff and the little girl and the little dog are all like "Oh no" and then the house lands in this weird place filled with midgets (we'll think up a politically correct name for them though) and there is this witch under the house and she gets pissed off so the little girl steals her silver slippers and runs away.

I think this story would make a great film/novel/play/video game/graphic novel or something, especially if I can come up with a way to incorporate flying monkeys into the story. Flying monkeys = f-king epic!

Whoa! Scary stuff bbdv, glad to see you pulled through okay. Thanks for checking in, and glad to have you back.

It isn't really hard in a challenging, "alright! I gonna beat it this time!" kind of way, but more in a, "Holy freaking hell! That guy just came out of nowhere and killed me and I haven't saved the game for a whole 15 minutes!" kind of way.

The first bit of the game was kind of slow, a clever way to let you customize your character (the baby book and the G.O.A.T. exam) while also giving you back story on your character, but perhaps a bit unnecessary, it did make for a rather slow start. I didn't mind it so much though. When I sit down to play an RPG I am not expecting things to move along super quickly anyway.

Anybody else playing/played Fallout 3? I find it to be a terrible waste of time, takes hours to make very little progress, and I feel like I am constantly wasting my free time treading across the desert, making it halfway to my desired location before being ambushed and killed by mutants and having to load from my last save point. Frustrating and time consuming, but it is a hard game to put down. Amazing visuals and occasionally some pretty unique game play make it worth sticking with it despite it being the time waster it is.

The "Traquility Lane" portion of the game was brilliant! Psychotic and rather disturbing in many ways (this is the kind of thing you don't want kooks like Jack Thompson or Hilary Clinton to see), but also incredibly amusing, and sometimes outright hilarious. Very reminiscent of the old Twilight Zone episodes, they captured a really cool erieeness with the whole black and white thing. Seriously, this single quest is a great concept for a whole game in itself. I'd pay good money for an extended experience of Tranquility Lane. Imagine spending hours doing tasks for Betty, or figuring out ways to defy her. I'd buy it.

Crygor64 said:

The opening crawl of Episode 1.

What a pile of nonsense.

See Also: Anakin's Space Jesus Virgin Birth.

LOL, right after ROTS was released I sat down and wrote a mini screenplay that spoofed on Terminator. In my screenplay, sometime in the years between ROTS and ANH, an IG-88 assassin droid was sent back in time to kill Shmi Skywalker, and a young Han Solo was sent back to protect her. Following the major plot twist from Terminator, during Han's time with Shmi Anakin is conceived. Once the droid is destroyed and Shmi is safe, like a jerk Han leaves her and goes back to his own time. Shmi finds she is pregnant, angry and ashamed she tells everyone that there is no father and she has no idea how she got pregnant, she really can't explain it.

Of course, nobody believes her, but she persists in her story even into her old age.

Makes the whole OT love triangle even more warped and incestuous than George managed to make it. :p

Isn't that the one about Luke and Wedge traveling across a volcanic planet in order to throw a magical ring into a pit of lava? I think I may have read that one.

Yeah, it works great. Which is why George put it in the script... then in his infitite wisdom, edited it right back out again! Arrg!

Anchorhead said:

In all my years of posting on message boards & forums, I believe that is the most off-topic post I've ever made.

 

You've just taken your first step into a larger world... :)

Mielr said:

Huh. So, they had a bunch of those butt-ugly covers left over. I like the '06 covers MUCH better.

 

 I find them both to be unbearably unattractive, but I guess the '06s look a little better. I haven't seen the '04 cover for quite sometime, but they mesh better with the prequel covers don't they?

It is not the difference between low/non fat and whole milk, it is the difference in how it is prepared. This horizon milk to be kept in the pantry and not refrigerated would have to be radiated or go through some other process of killing off all the bacteria, which would mean you could keep it on the shelf for several months without it going bad, regardless of its fat content. The Tuscan stuff looks like just your typical 1 gallon of milk, which when left out of the cold for even a few hours can turn sour, even if it is reduced fat or skim milk.

I am guessing Nightwatch is an anime? I was refering mostly to actual foreign films with live actors, no matter how good of a dub it is, it is nothing like the real thing. I feel the acting is an important part of the movie, and when I am watching a dub, I am not hearing the original actors preformance.

I really don't watch any animes or any other foreign cartoons, so I don't really know how I feel about dubs on them.

I rather enjoy watching foreign films with subtitles, can't stand dubs! Much rather have it in its original language with subtitles any day of the week. However, I'd see little point in watching an English film where I have to read subtitles to a fake alien language. To some degree it adds a hint of realism I suppose, but for a sci-fi show/movie I find the instant translator sort of thing to be more than adequate for explaining away the fact that everyone speaks English as spoken by Americans many hundreds of years ago (in the case of ST). Star Wars was kind of unique in having aliens speak alien languages with English subtitles, but I still feel that it is rather awkward for two fellows to be speaking to each other and having a fluid conversation while speaking two very different languages. Last time I mentioned this some others piped up and said that it was not only perfectly plausible, but that it is not entirely uncommon. I guess they are right enough, but still just doesn't quite feel right to me.

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. I didn't believe you at first, I just couldn't bring myself to, I was sure you were mistaken. They sure are flooding the market with these damn things.

I still cannot share others optimism that this means the originals are now becoming a standard part of home video releases of SW. They are ready have the GOUT put together and ready to go, all it takes is for them to press a few more copies and include it in the set as a cheap and cheaply made bonus disc, which somehow is suppose to put these on the standards of the PT DVDs (which were excellently done) and allows them to jack up the price.

Putting the unaltered trilogy on a blu-ray however, would be an entirely different story. Some love and care would have to go into the process, and that is something I have a hard time imagining LFL doing. It is not like they can just used the LD master again, which was their quick and simple solution last time around.

I really don't see this as anymore than the company trying to squeeze a few more dollars out of something they have already gone through the trouble to create. Obviously that is what it is.

With our luck, if we do get the originals on blu-ray, it will be a beautifully done standard definition, anamorphic widescreen, dual layer DVD, and it will look absolutely stunning! But only on outdated technology... and George will be slapping his knee until it turns black and blue he'll be laughing so hard.

skyjedi2005 said:

Why do the Romulans and Klingons in some of the Star Trek films speak English they are Aliens, it should be alien dialogue with Translated text.

Only bad sci fi has the aliens speak English, even on Earth not everyone speaks English as their language

Obviously they do it to decomplicate things, coming up with alien languages, getting actors to speak them, remaining consistent, and having an extra character around to translate everytime a conversation is to take place between a human and an alien is a lot more difficult than just having everyone speak English.

Trek has at least tried to explain this away by using the in universe explanation of the universal translator, a device that translates everything in real time to the listeners language. For any H2G2 fans out there, basically a non biological version of the babelfish. Though ST has never remained consistent with this, as sometimes we will see Klingons speaking with subtitles and English speakers not understanding them, when clearly their translation device should be translating for them. ST:Enterprise focused much more on the linguistic aspects and dealt more with translations since the universal translator was not invented yet, or at least was not technology the humans possessed. I have not seen it myself, but I heard that there is an episode of DS9 where Quark and his family go back in time and crash in Rosewell, New Mexico, it is explained that because their translator is broken or because the humans don't have translators, or something along those lines, that the humans only hear gibberish when the Ferangi speak to them. Yeah, DS9 is known for some pretty over the top retarded episodes, but it is a citation of an episode that explains the translators at least.

Gaffer Tape said:

AxiaEuxine said:

You all KNOW thats not what I meant. I love episode 3. I was commenting on how the audience never gave it a chance, like all the prequels.

Then you obviously haven't been reading any of the posts surrounding yours.  Like the one I wrote directly above yours that said the first time I saw it I was enthralled.  And how about Erikstormtrooper's post right above this one that explains he liked it the first time but after repeat viewings he realized that it wasn't as good as he first thought.  He hit the nail on the head.  It's not a movie that holds up well under close scrutiny.  All of us gave the prequels a chance, otherwise we never would have seen them.  Conversely, I could say that I never gave The Clone Wars a chance because I never bothered to see it.  But since I saw ROTS three times in theatres, I think I gave it quite a large chance.  It is possible that people dislike certain movies not because they have a vendetta against a franchise or fans of a franchise but because they've (objectively as they can) weighed the good against the bad and ultimately decided it's not that good.  Just like I assume you love the prequels and special editions not because you simply love anything that has a Star Wars label attached to it no matter the value but because you honestly believe they're good movies.

Gaffer is very correct, Axia. Sometimes it feels you really don't spent a whole lot of time reading other peoples posts. There are quite a few people, I'd actually go as far as to say the majority of vocal members on these boards, who either don't mind the PT or absolutely love it.

Gaffer admitted that he never gave Clone Wars a chance, well where he failed I succeeded, I watched several episodes and commented that it wasn't a half bad show for its intended audience. I found it rather juvenile, but that should be no mark against it as it is juvenile because it is intended for children. Some members here older than myself find it entertaining, that is well and good for them, but I myself found it no more entertaining than I would find any other show intended for kids. I do not watch it and I don't feel like I am missing anything. I gave it plenty of chance, just like I gave the other three movies plenty of chance. I just didn't like them. My opinion. My feelings on the matter. It is fantastic that you love them so much, I just don't. I am sure I like many movies you don't, and I wouldn't even think about second guessing you to say, "Well hell, you just didn't like them because you didn't give them a chance!" If you bothered to pay the price of a movie ticket to sit through the movie you gave it plenty of chance.

More proof that I have given them a chance is the fact that I have defended The Phantom Menace on these boards on multiple occasions.

Another member here named Zombie who you would probably ranked among the rest of us PT haters, has also defended them saying that they are not particularly good films, but they certainly are not the worst ever made as some of us make them out to be. He most certainly gave them a chance, but still didn't think they were all that great.

Sure there are a few around who did not give it a chance, but I'd say that number is a very, very small percentage of us all.

My guess would be a space slug.

Sean, what station does Jupiter broadcast from? Any good talk shows or music stations?

Ah, here is a topic I can really get into!

I always encourage newcomers to the series to tackle them in publication order, to me they have more meaning to them that way. It is not just because I grew up reading them that way, but I think, much like the SW saga, that by reading them in chronological order some of the mystery and awe is lost.

For example, as a kid it was great fun to experience Lucy's wonder as she stepped through the wardrobe and found herself in this fantastic place. Even the lamp post was a fun little oddity that originally remained a mystery until the end of the series.

However, by reading Magician's Nephew first, originally the second to last book, now the first, By the time you get to the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, you will already know the origins of Narnia, the wardrobe, and the lamp post. Reading The Magician's Nephew for the first time was kind of a "ah, so that is why..." moment. It is like reading the end of a mystery novel and discovering what was going on the whole time. It explains why the wardrobe transported Lucy, and how different worlds exist, even how the witch came to be in the land.

I often give sets of these books away to friends as gifts, and I always include a list of the publication order and encourage them to read it that way.

Even the movies were being made in publication order rather than chronological order, that says something. Though now that Disney has abandoned them, who knows if we will even get another one.

This debate had been going on even while C.S. Lewis was still alive. I remember reading a letter from him to a little boy who asked him which order he should read them in, Lewis answers that he had not put a lot of thought into it, but concedes that the chronological order may be the preferable order of reading. And now that is the order most newcomers read them in, since newer printings of the books themselves have the chronological ordering on the spine.

EDIT: ripped this off of wikipedia:

Lewis' reply to a letter from an American fan in 1957 who was having an argument with his mother about the order:

I think I agree with your order [i.e. chronological] for reading the books more than with your mother's. The series was not planned beforehand as she thinks. When I wrote The Lion I did not know I was going to write any more. Then I wrote P. Caspian as a sequel and still didn't think there would be any more, and when I had done The Voyage I felt quite sure it would be the last, but I found I was wrong. So perhaps it does not matter very much in which order anyone read them. I’m not even sure that all the others were written in the same order in which they were published.

Tiptup said:

I'm starting to get a better picture of the kind of person you are, C3PX. If I had to guess, you follow the emotional expressions of people to understand the context and motivations behind a discussion. (I don't know if that guess is correct, but it seems like a good guess none the less.) Since I tried to avoid using emotional outbursts in this thread (so as not to offend either of you or lordjedi) it seems (to me) that you then had trouble understanding where I was coming from.

I think I am starting to get a better picture of the kind of person you are, tip. A lunatic! Hopefully I am wrong (seriously, I really hope I am. I like you, just sometimes you start acting like a total ass for no reason and wont give it a rest until you prove yourself right), but are you kidding me??? I can't believe you spent this much time to bring back up this "issue", I had really thought you saw the error of your ways and gave up. 

Anyway, I don't have any games where I read people's emotions and get totally lost when people hide their emotions or any silly over the top ridiculous stuff like that, the issue here was plan and simple... v

 

Unfortunately, though, in response you tried to pounce on me and attack me (for some reason) by accusing my arguments of being weak (or some simple example of nit picking). If you ask me, however, that was an error on your part. Simply because I try to discuss these issues in a way that is reserved (because I previously respected you and lordjedi) does not mean that my arguments are weak.

I didn't try to pounce you or attack you. It is not unfortunate. I don't have any sort of rivalry against you where I must prove myself the better man. I just found the way you took the discussion, made a 90 degree turn with it and out of nowhere and for no reason starting picking on Lordjedi, to be confusing, pointless, and disgusting.

I knew I really didn't want to continue debating in this thread. I knew it would just make me angry. I don't like getting angry with people I mostly agree with on issues (since I'd rather be encouraging with them if anything). As a result, I tried to be patient, logical, and cold with you, C3PX, and with lordjedi (for the most part). However, this approach of mine seemed to only make things worse (either for the reason I outlined in my above paragraph or for some other reason) and so I got bored and had no desire to continue.

Why does it make you angry when people disagree with you? It doesn't bother me in the slightest when you and I or Lj disagree with one another. Why should it? I bet just about every one in the world disagrees with you about something, do you find that upsetting? Seriously, what can you do about? At the end of the day if you are so certian you are right about something, why should it matter that some goofball on the internet (who could be a freaking twelve year old for all you know) disagrees with you?

But, C3PX, you pressed the issue in the video game thread . . . of all the fucking places. For all your talk above that tries to accuse me of being some evil imp that simply wants to argue useless points until I can somehow "triumph," you clearly show yourself to be an empty hypocrite who, in my opinion, can easily be argued as going after the same thing. So, to answer the earnest wishes of your petty little heart, here you go (I hope this makes you happy because I'm not happy anymore):

I didn't mean to press the issue in the video game thread, and it is not like I just pulled the issue back out of my ass and put it back on the table. What you were doing in the video game thread was very similar to what you were doing in this thread before, that is why I mentioned it.

I never accused you of being an "evil imp", but obviously you do enjoy arguing or you feel the need to prove yourself right. Maybe I do "go after the same thing", I certianly don't mean too. I enjoy a decent debate where both sides remain civil, maybe some slight verbal jousting is permissable, but once it gets into the vicious and angry name calling, the fun kind of goes out of it for me.

Go back to the video games thread, and read the posts from just before you and I butted horns in there. Jay and I disagreed with each other several times, but we never got into a huge name calling debate over it, we just argued our cases and went on. I was just enjoying a fun discussion on video games, and suddenly you put on the boxing gloves (go back and read out posts again, this page is where the conversation fell apart, http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Video-Game-Thread/topic/1456/page/162/) Chaltab's post following yours in which he says, "No need to get hostile..." pretty much sums it up.

My "petty little heart" never wished for this discussion to be reopened, nor did I wish for you to be unhappy. I can certianly say I am not happy, as I rather liked you and valued your friendship on these boards. Sorry to see you feeling this way toward me.

I haven't read the rest of your wall of text yet, just don't have the time at the moment. Since you went through all the trouble to write it, I will take the time to read it, but I don't expect to respond to it. I said how I felt in this post, and I have very little interest in arguing the topic at hand and absolutely no interest in fighting with you anymore.

EDIT: Okay, I know I said I'd eventually take the time to read the rest your post, but never mind. I read a few more sentences and it is just you cussing your head off and insulting me. I don't need to read that crap. And seriously, calm down. I can tell you were really pissed off ehen you wrote that post, I have no idea why you see it worth getting worked up over. 

^ I especially liked the Clockwork Orange references.

I knew amazon started selling groceries a few years ago, but I just cannot imagine anyone going through the trouble to pay postage and packing on a gallon of milk. It have to be wrapped in some thermal material to keep it within a safe temperature during its travels, and gallons of milk are fragile things, doesn't take much to bust one of those suckers open. I find it hard to believe amazon ever sold that product, and if they did it is not hard to see why they no longer carry it.

No, having played it through several levels before getting bored of it, I can say with certainty, it is not an RPG. I am just curious if it has actually been labeled as an RPG by LucasArts. Surely the UK doesn't have their own definition of RPG, right? Just strange to see it called that in that video description.

Hmm, how cool would an Oblivion/Fallout 3 style Star Wars RPG be?

Whoa! Sean you just totally took away my peace of mind. I had never even considered the possibility of this before! Seriously scary stuff. Every year I grow increasingly more anxious in the days leading up to 9/11, then I spend most the day on 9/11 itself holding my breath (in intervals of course, not constantly, can't hold my breath that long, nobody can), then I stay up until 12am and breath a deep sigh of releif when 9/12 rolls along and my anxiety subsides.

Now I have to be scared to death of terrorist attacks EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!! I don't think I cant take this!

EDIT:

"it will most likely target either the nation's subways, seaports, landmarks, stadiums, buildings, structures, or other indoor or outdoor areas where large groups of people tend to gather."

Personally what I am most afraid of is some lunatic planning an attack on our nation's deserts! America has beautiful deserts in comparison to those ugly sandy things they have over yonder in turban land. It would be just like them to get jealous of our rocky, dry cracking dirt and cactus deserts and to try to blow the hell out of them. The mere thought fills me with unbearable anxiety...

Nothing morbid about it by any means, just reality.

It is sad really, all these kids who grew up idolizing George Lucas, only to find themselves in adulthood secretly waiting for him to kick the bucket just so they can finally have their damn childhood films on some watchable media in watchable quality (it is also really sad we can't just say, "on DVD" or "on Blu-ray" instead of having to use whole sentences to describe exactly what kind of a standard of quality it should reach. The whole SW situation is such a silly joke, sometimes I feel like I might wake up and find a fully remastered box set in my DVD library finely crafted and packed with extras, wipe the sweat of my forehead and say, "Phew, what a rediculous dream that was!"

I mean seriously, it really is just that unbelievably stupid of a situation; here is a product high in demand that is sure to sell better than 99% of most DVD on the market, and yet we cannot have it, not for any practical reasons but merely because the creator decided he doesn't think we should.

George Lucas is such an Indian-giver,

GEORGE: "Hey, look at these movies I made, aren't they kwel?"

FAN: "Suite! Those movies are awesome! They are my most favoritest movies of all time! I will love them and cherish them until I am old and wrinkled like Obi-Wan!"

GEORGE: "Tits! Glad you like them, and by the way, thanks for all the money you have given me."

FAN: "Ah, it is really nothing George, when there is something as cool as Star Wars in our lives, who needs money?"

years pass...

FAN: "Dude, these movies are so friggin awesome! I'll never grow tired of-- Oh, hey Goerge, how's it goin' pal? Long time no... what are you doing? Hey, I was watching that! Wait, George? What are you doing? No. That's my movie George, no, George I need that. George! GEORGE! What are yoy doing? No, please don't take it away from me. You gave those to me George. No! I need them George, I need them! Noooooo! Noooooooooooo!"

GEORGE: [displays middle finger over shoulder as he walks away]

...

the end?

You said it Axia! For once we can agree! A well executed movie will use the audience well, entertain them and really get them into the story, Ep. III did a bang up job of putting people to sleep, most definitely a waste of a good audience. Anytime the name "Star Wars" is in a movie you have automatic record ticket sales (well, prior to Ep.3, as post Ep.3 evidence shows that this is no longer the case), when so many people are going to go see a movie regardless of how good or bad it is, it is truely ashame to waste it like that.

Daaaaaaaa! I am so used to seeing those damn words when I am on the otherside of the world. Wonder if these can be found somewhere on scifi.com?

Okay, since I cannot watch the videos due to my being in the states, I read the descriptions for each video, and was kind of struck at the description of 2008's video containing the words, "The role playing video game Star Wars: The Force Unleashed". Is the Force Unleashed actually suppose to be an RPG? Sorriest excuse for an RPG I have ever seen.