C3PX

skyjedi2005 said:

To me the first one was the best and most original of the lot and a remake for the ps3 would be welcomed, as well as a remake of Final Fantasy VII,lol.

 

They'd already made one remake of MGS, how many do you want?

"Beat you like a red headed stepchild" is another one I heard my whole life. The idea behind the "every family has redheaded stepchild" is the idea that they stand out and look differnt. No reason to infer hostility into that one. Beat you like a red headed step child is a less practical saying, which I have only heard people to use to mean to beat with a severity.

Great choice on picking up the MGS essential collection, Nanner. You've just taken your first step into a larger world... or something like that. I eagerly ran out and bought that thing on the day it was released. Fantastic deal, great looking set, and you can't beat having the first game in PS2 style packaging to match the others.

Sure the game takes some over the top Japanese anime-like liberties with reason and sense, but the experience of playing them is so unique and enjoyable that it is easy enough just go along with it.

If you really enjoyed the first one, and I mean really enjoyed it to the point of wanting to play it again, then you definitely want to pick up the remake for the Gamecube. Mostly the same game but with upgraded graphics and a few extra features (for example, when you get shot you will leave a trail of blood, so you have to use bandages). Oddly they redubbed the voice acting, but with almost all of the same actors, and didn't quite do as good of a job as the original IMHO. Still a pretty cool game though. I'd recommend the original for newcomers, and the remake for someone who wishes to revisit the game again later.

Jay said:

I'm still working my way through Fallout 3. What a fantastic game. I don't see how anyone who walked through it in a week could have possibly enjoyed everything it has to offer. It's the kind of game that makes me want to explore every nook and cranny on the map (and explode heads while I'm doing it).

Some people just want to beat games for the sake of beating them I suppose, and collected as many achievements on the way as possible no doubt. Same thing for Bioshock, everyone talks about what a short game it is and how it can easily be finished over the course of a single weekend, and so far I have spent hours on it and am not all that far in the game, there is just too much to take in to rush through it like that. Not sure there is a lot of point in playing a game like Oblivion or Fallout 3 if you are just going to rush through it, too much additional care was put into the making of such games.

I just bought Fallout 3 a few days ago, Target had it on sale for $39 last week, couldn't let that deal pass by. I haven't has a chance to play it at all yet, I'll probably finish Bioshock before getting into it.

Darth Chaltab said:

Why would he need to pick up a used Gamecube to play RE 0 and the REmake?

Because they are Gamecube games, and at the time of posting that I didn't know dark_jedi owned a Wii.

Since used GCs are only thirty bucks now, $35 with a year warranty, buying a used Gamecube is a good suggestion for anyone who wants to catch up on the few good exclusive games that came out on it (RE titles, the two Zeldas, Metroid, Rogue Squadron, etc.). It is a two hundred and twenty bucks cheaper than the Wii, and most of the games can be picked up for pocket change. I got my copy of the REmake for $7 and it looks brand new, Metroid Prime for $6.

Of course if you have a Wii you don't need a GC, but it is still definitely worth going out of your way to buy a GC controller and to pick up a handful of wothwhile old GC games.

I still like Shadows, I admit it is not perfect, but I felt it had a lot of the spirit of the OT present in it.

I don't see Dash as such a rip off as Han. The galaxy is bound to be full of his time, mercenaries and pilot/fighters for hire. I didn't like that they had him fly in the battle on Hoth, it felt like they were trying too hard with that one. And yeah, I have always been bugged by the close relationship with Xizor and the Emperor. It just doesn't fit, especially the idea that he would allow Xizor in the room with him while discussion the importance of killing or turning Luke to the darkside. Just isn't the kind of thing that seems like a cunning galactic dictator would do. In the end it really comes off as Palpatine having been played the fool, though they do kind of make the suggestion that the Emperor was using him to test Vader.

As for Boba Fett's role, hmm, I don't seem to remember him having an especially big role beyond "Look! There is slave 1, get it! Oh darn, it got away!"

And Jix? He was one of Jabba's bikers perhaps? I really don't remember too well even though I have read the book more than once. Obviously he wasn't cool enough to stand out to me.

And as for the Outrider showing up in the special edition of A New Hope (I am assuming that is the SOTE reference that you are annoyed at having been placed in the SE, it is the only one I know of), never really bothered me. It seems like more of an easter egg than anything else, as it is barely there and if you blink you miss it. Honestly, if you were not looking for it, you'd never catch it. Bet a lot of people reading this thread don't even know it is in there.

Exactly. I have tons of books that I will only read once in my lifetime, yet I take great pride in displaying them nicely on the many bookshelves located around my house. No matter how good ebook readers get in the future, and no matter how much more practical they are, they will never quite cut it for me. Same thing goes for my DVD and my CD collection. I have a tower where all my music CDs are displayed, downloadable music will never replace that, no matter how good the quality gets. I can't remember the last time I watched many of the movie I own on DVD, but they look quite nice lined up on my shelf, and I am proud of the films I own. Half the fun of having these things is the fact that you have them and can organize them nicely, displayed nicely for your own satisfaction or for any visitors who might happen to take a glance over at your collection to see what you have (I know I do that when visiting others).

Nothing will ever replace physical media for me, and I know I am not the only one who feels this way. I just got a 360 not too long ago, and I have bought a few things off of LIVE. It is nice how it displays them nicely with their cover art in your game library, but it just isn't the same as being able to reach out and touch them.

If "Over on that hill, I think there are friendly Indians" is an understatement, then Custer and his men must have met with some dang super friendly Indians on the hill.

Or, if that is how we define understatement these days, then "I sense great anger in you" would have to mean that skyjedi is 100% anger free, or at least is greatly lacking in the anger department. Which I agree with, I really don't see him as an angry person, nor much indication of anger in his posts. He is just another guy posting his opinions, just like the rest of us.

It doesn't really have anything to do with people from the UK, or some irrational dislike of redheaded people they might have. Zombie is from Canada I believe (could be mistaken), and I have heard people in the states use that expression my entire life. It isn't intended to suggest that red headed people are weird or anything, it means the exact same thing as the term "black sheep" the one that doesn't quite fit in, looks differently from the rest, etc. i.e. a family has four kids, three with brown hair, but the oldest child from a previous marriage has red hair and looks different from the others. There are no anti-redhead sentiments here.

To answer rcb's original question, Zombie meant that Return of the Jedi is not anywhere near as good as the first two films, but it is acceptable.

Jay said:

C3PX said:

But why the slam against FPSs?

Because it's the sidescrolling platformer of this generation. It's the 1-on-1 fighting game. It's the genre that has a few outstanding titles surrounded by a sea of trash. And Americans love them, even if they're complete crap.

I don't think that is completely true. I see plenty of crappy FPSs but I don't see so many people eating them up even when they suck. At least not more so than any other kind of game. Tons of FPSs are pooped out by game companies every year, and few of them are outstanding, but the vast majority get mediocre reviews or worse. But how is that unique to the FPS? What genre isn't it this way with? Seriously, can you name one? The RTS? The RPG? The racing games? All those shitty sports games? How about all those GTA clones? Also I can tell you that Americans are not the only ones who like FPSs. It has very little to do with nationality and a whole lot to do with taste and personal preference. 

People know there are good games on the PS3.

Then why do I keep hearing it has "no good games?" Because 360 fanboys like to perpetuate that myth, that's why.

If people are moronic enough to seriously think there are absolutely no good games on the PS3 simply because of some 360 fanboy conspiracy to keep the world from the PS3, then they really don't desrve the air that they breathe, let alone to be playing video games. Obviously when people say "The PS3 doesn't have any good games" they mean that in much the same way we'd say "The N64/GC/Wii doesn't have any good games." Fact of the matter is all those systems (PS3 included) have some really, incredibly outstanding games that are not availble on any other system. The problem is, that miniscule library of brilliance doesn't justify $399.99 in many gamers minds.

And the 360's online "community" is a great reason not to buy it in my opinion. Lots of 12-year-olds playing Halo and shouting obscenities at one another.

So the PS3's online community is so much better? You are talking about issues with other users now, which is pointless, you can't convince me PS3 doesn't have the same thing. Plenty of 12 year olds own PS3. Are PS3 owning twelve year old that much more sophisticated? So what if twelve year olds want to play Halo and swear at each other? More power to them I say. Funny thing is, you don't have to play it with them if you don't want to. Not sure exactly how this is in any way a reason not to get a 360. I can think of plenty of reasons not to buy a 360, but this one baffles me.

Another interesting antedote...

Two games, one of which received a vastly inferior port on the PS3. But the 360 has many more owners, so it's not surprising that the 360 version of common games sells out before the PS3 version does.

That was my point, the 360 has many more owners. Its games are higher in demand.

Of course they won't catch up. MS had a year and Halo. That's all they needed in today's gaming climate--a mediocre FPS/chat room and cheap, defective hardware to play it on.

I have barely played Halo 1 (not a bad game, but way over hyped), and have never played 2 or 3. I really don't see anything wrong with people liking, them, and I really doubt Halo 3 is what caused so many people to buy the 360.

I definitely agree on the MS hardware issues, MS made a serious screwup on that one, and it took them a long time to get it under any sort of control. The newer models finally run rather cool, and therefore should not be as prone to the problems of the last few year's systems. But clearly, MS's failure rate was monumental. Of course, if we skip back to nearly ten years ago, the PS2's first models had more than their fair share of issues, and even the newer slimline model PS2s are retarded enough to melt the plastic lens that protects their lasers when trying too hard to read a scratched or smudged disc.

I have never used one, but the Wii zapper does look prety crappy, not to mention very un-gun like. There is an off brand Wii pistol that looks pretty nice (I think the brand name is "Nyko" or something similar). I have read customer reviews for it on amazon, and they are all really positive. It only holds the Wiimote and not the nunchuck and is shaped like a real gun. If I ever got a Wii, that pistol and Umbrella Chronicles would be the first things I'd buy to go with it.

Have you played Umbrella Chronicles for the Wii? That is the one Wii game a really want to play. I have never tried it, but I like old arcade shooters, and revisiting the chapters of previous RE games in that style sounds really cool to me.

I honestly never like the RE series too much. The only one that ever appealed to me was RE2 for some reason. I think it is a fun game, but I have never actually beaten it, I always grow tired of quickly. Which is odd because I grew up loving my long winded adventure games. Though I must admit, RE2 had some shit-your-pants-freaky moments.

RE4 on the other hand is one of the most enjoyable games I have ever played, it had a few scary moment, but you are right, nothing like RE 1 or 2. Heh, scariest moment in RE4 for me was when something jumped out of nowhere at me in the game, and at the EXACT same moment a misquito unexpectedly flew up my nose. This was sometime around 1 am, and I was playing in complete darkness. I had to pause the game and take a few minutes to catch my breath it scared me so badly.

Glad you got to play the demo of RE5. It is a lot like RE4, which I think is a good thing. I am afraid if you are a big fan of the old adventure game style Resident Evils, your days are up. I hate when franchise like that completely adandon their roots, I sympathize with you. Have you played Resident Evil 0 or the remake of Resident Evil 1 on the GameCube? If you really liked the older RE games, it is worth going down to gamestop and picking up a used $29.99 GameCube just to play those two games. RE0 is a whole new game taking place before the first one, and the remake has plenty of changes from the original making it worth the time of people who have beaten the old one countless times.

LOL, that is true. And just about everyone else in Jabba's Palace were armed. Well, I guess when they captured Luke they probably checked him for weapons.

Scruffy said:

Z6PO said:

(remember, in episode IV, he doesn't know the princess when R2 plays the hologram message, but earlier in the movie he says "there will be no escape for the princess"... I wonder if he may have some memory malfunction...)

On the contrary, Threepio remembers everything. Perfectly. But he is a protocol droid, in the service of the Royal Family of Alderaan, and it would be against his programming to disclose their secrets to common farmboys. Or the secrets of his previous masters. It just wouldn't be proper.

Yeah, Scruffy is right, his memory is fine. Watch that scene again, it has always felt to me like he was protecting the stubborn Artoo more than watching out for the Princess. He obviously didn't know what the message was, because he had never seen it nor did he see her record it in front of Artoo. As soon as Luke leaves the room Threepio drops his polite voice, turns to Artoo, and scolds his saying, "Just you consider replaying that message for him!"

In Shadows of the Empire, it explains that Luke purposfully keeps Threepio in the dark about the actual plan.

He is not the smartest droid, but his memory is just fine.

Jay said:

MS may have more games available and may be selling more games, but that's because Americans have a never ending appetite for first person shooters, Madden, and Big Macs. Games like Uncharted, LittleBIGPlanet, and Valkyrie Chronicles are real works of art and represent some of the best games from this generation, but nobody's buying them because they believe the PS3 "has no good games yet" thanks to shit articles from the likes of CNN Money.

I can't stand American football in any form, so I certainly don't care for Madden, and I haven't had a bigmac since I was 12. But why the slam against FPSs? It is a style or perhaps a genre of game, and a very valid one too. Sure plenty of crappy FPSs are released every year, but every now and then one comes out that is outstanding and amazing, every bit as much of a work of art as the games you listed. You said you got Bioshock for Christmas? That is one of the most beautiful games I have ever played. So much detail in such a unique world it is taking me forever to get through it because I am always stopping to try to take everything in. It is almost an overload on the senses. It is great.

You said nobody is buying the games you listed because they are being led to believe the PS3 has no good games yet. Of course that isn't why people arn't buying them. Take a look at gamespot, IGN, or any place that reviews video games, those games you listed along with plenty of other PS3 games are getting great reviews. People know there are good games on the PS3. It just isn't enough. The N64 and GameCube also had some of the best games of their generation, but you know how that story goes. A few good games just doesn't do it for that many people. And it is not like the 360 is in anyway lacking in good games, it has got plenty.

The fact is, those few good games that are PS3 exclusives don't weight up to the 360's much larger library, and much cheaper price tag. When you consider both systems side buy side, the PS3 just doesn't hold up in most regards yet. In this day and age when you can play games online with your friends, what your friends own matters. There are a lot more 360s out there than PS3s. The new Resident Evil game will allow two players to play through the story in co-op mode over the internet. Many other games do this too. If someone is on the market for a 360 or a PS3 and they consider this factor, then they are going to want to get what their friends have.

Another interesting antedote, I was looking of a copy of the 360 version of The Orange Box for a Christmas present for a friend. I looked everywhere for a copy, but everyone was sold out. Even Gamestop, which had had a good quantity of used copies the week before was completely sold out. Every store I went to had plenty of copies of it for the PS3 but absolutely none for the 360. They recently stopped producing the game on both consoles and price dropped it from $30 to $20 bucks and they sold like wildfire for the holiday season. That many more people own 360s than PS3s. Target has Fallout 3 on sale for $39.99 (yeah, that is almost a full $20 off the SRP). It was advertised in the Sunday paper, on monday I went in to buy a copy and they were completely sold out of it for the 360, but had tons of copies of the PS3 version (also on sale for $39.99). I used Target's website to search for any local stores that had it in stock, they were all sold out of the 360 version by the second day of the sale, but they all had the PS3 version in stock.

I think as time goes on the PS3 will start to pick up, the price will come down, and the library will grow, and sells will increase. But it'll never catch up with the 360. It is pretty plan to see who won this generation of the console war.

negative1 said:

yes, right, of course it's not related to 'frankenstein', it's just another

movie in the series of 'abbott and costello'....it's not their first one..

that's what i meant.

Ah, of course, that makes sense. I should have realized that is what you meant.

-1 kind of likes to go against the grain. If everyone hates it he'll love the snot out of it, if everyone loves it then it couldn't possibly be more over hyped and over rated.

But yeah, twister brings up a good point. For example, I don't think The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the greatest show in the world, it is certainly full of its flaws, but the Terminator story and the universe it takes place in are really interesting to me. You (-1) said in a recent post that while some of us may be fine to sit back and not have anymore Star Wars, you wanted as much as you can get, which is why you love the PT and the Clone Wars.

I guess that is how I feel about Terminator, to the point that I am really excited about this new movie and that I'd look forward to a new episode of TSSC every week while it was on, and I am looking forward to it coming back.

I do however absolutely hate T3. T2, while it was basically a rehash of part one, did something to expand the story, T3 on the other hand simply made T2 irrelevant and sucked hard while doing so.

I guess that also explains why I dislike the PT so much. I am willing to let go of SW, because I have had my fill of it. I got my first toy X-Wing when I was barely old enough to walk. I spent my childhood playing with the old Kenner action figures, reading SW comics, and playing Star Wars games on my NES and later on my dad's PC. As soon as SW books began hitting the shelves once again in the early nineties, I was there buying them and reading them. I couldn't get enough back then, and that is the Star Wars I loved so much. This new stuff hardly even resembles the movies I loved so much, and those books and those comics I used to read.

It is like a completely different series to me. Honestly I find it more annoying than I do enjoyable. To me the new stuff is so contrary to the SW I always enjoyed so much, it might as well be a remake. The Boba Fett I grew up with wasn't some stupid clone of a retard named Jango (sounds like a freaking dog's name) anymore than the Starbuck (BSG) I grew up with was woman.

Right, but I meant you are not going to see any part 2s in there without the original. You'll find Back to the Future, but not part 2 and 3, you'll find Chinatown but not The Two Jakes. In fact the only title I saw with a 2 appended to the end was Godfather II, and the first one was there as well. I just meant to say that it would be highly unlikely for them to include a sequel without the original there first. I'd think for a sequel to be on there it have to do something the original didn't do, rather than basically rehash the first one as T2 does.

Also, I am pretty sure Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein isn't a sequel to Frakenstein, if that is what you meant by listing it as a sequel or a remake.

LOL, you'd expect them to pick a sequel before the original? Has nothing to do with them preferring it over T2, or recognizing true greatness, T1 was unique, T2 was a sequel, and a damn good sequel, but still just a sequel.

"The first time there ever was a jedi temple was during the Kevin Anderson jedi academy trilogy when the old rebel base on yavin was converted to the skywalker academy for jedi."

I don't believe that was actually a "Jedi Temple", I don't think it was ever called that in Anderson's books. The Jedi academy was set up in the ancient temple ruins on Yavin 4. So the word temple is used quite often in those books, but as far as I have read, it never suggests that Jedi have temples or are suppost to have temples.

I am afraid this is quite likely to end up postponing the release date, I hope not though. Fox is very obviously playing dirty. This thing was announced long ago, Fox could have jumped in back at the very beginning and said it was theirs and kept it from being made, instead they wait until it is completely finiished. Bastards. It is so blatant too, that really ought to be taken into account when this goes to trial. Fox has earned themselves a lot of hate from the nerd community over the years, with a stroke of a pen they killed Firefly, Futurama, and a few other sci-fi series they have brought to a premature end.

I'd actually rank Insurrection as my favorite TNG era ST flick. I really liked First Contact, but sky is right, it is a heavy action flick. Insurrection felt a lot more like a really good multi part episode of TNG.

You finished?

"beating sense into skyjedi is part of the sub-culture of this entire site."

LOL, I don't think that is possible. Actually, I think Sky is a very sensible guy. I generally have enjoyed his posts in the past, even when they were picking something apart, typically they did it quite intelligentlly. Lately they have been growing increasingly exhusting though, especially with he and Hunter piggybacking on one another to create endless threads of sheer complaining.

That said, I am still rather fond of sky.

Yeah, it especially fits those guys that have been unable to shut the hell up about Bush for the last several years. Every word out their mouths is Bush this and Bush that. Hopefully having the most perfectest liberal since JFK in office will help them to break the cycle of complaining, but quite frankly, I think theirs is a lost cause.

Now I know this is your forum and all, but I do believe it is best if we can keep politics confined to politic related threads.